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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2016 10:52:46 GMT -5
That is a nice photo of Chippy, and nice that Chippy is around when the children come to visit at your place. I know animals wait to see other animals, my dogs do that, wait to see two other dogs and even look out the window waiting for them.
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Post by fearnot on Jun 29, 2016 15:48:42 GMT -5
In the six years Devon has been here Hossanah has had to take him to the hospital several times for his asthma ( the have a home machine with medicine which is step two if the inhaler does not work).
so step one is inhaler, step two the machine thingy with medicine, and then if those fail, it's off to hospital.
And yeah epi pen is great for peace of mind, plus the hospital is less than a mile away, so that helps!
If something happened at school, the hospital is just a few blocks away.
I loved the photo of Chippy!!
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Post by sevenofnine on Jun 29, 2016 19:45:30 GMT -5
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Post by Cindy on Jun 30, 2016 9:31:50 GMT -5
That is a nice photo of Chippy, and nice that Chippy is around when the children come to visit at your place. I know animals wait to see other animals, my dogs do that, wait to see two other dogs and even look out the window waiting for them. In the six years Devon has been here Hossanah has had to take him to the hospital several times for his asthma ( the have a home machine with medicine which is step two if the inhaler does not work).
so step one is inhaler, step two the machine thingy with medicine, and then if those fail, it's off to hospital.
And yeah epi pen is great for peace of mind, plus the hospital is less than a mile away, so that helps!
If something happened at school, the hospital is just a few blocks away.
I loved the photo of Chippy!!
Hope everyone is having a good day today. Gracie is taking dance classes this week and really enjoying them. When they were here last weekend Both Grace and Elijah asked me for books to read. Now, I know they're both avid readers like me, but they're really not old enough to read adult books yet.... or so I thought. Grace insisted though, and begged me to let her read a book she found, so I opened it up and said, "OK, Grace, then show me you can read it". Well, she sure showed me!!! Give me a break, the child is only 7 years old and can read an adult book!  Elijah is 10 now, so I expected him to be able to read adult books, but not my little Gracie!
Thankfully Elijah rescued me, as he spotted the Left Behind Books for the Kids. I have all 40 of them. He'd seen his mom reading them a year or so ago and was interested then but I wasn't sure he was ready for them yet. They're going on vacation to Storyland and then Maine and they wanted some books to read in the car on the way. That's what started this whole thing. Anyway, when he saw those books, he decided he wanted to read them, so I gave him the first two, figuring he could read one on the way there and the other on the way back. (He reads fast like I do and so does Grace lol) Apparently he couldn't wait because he was already half way through it yesterday LOL So I told Jenn to come over before they leave and grab a couple more of them for him. In the meantime, I need to find some appropriate books for Grace. She can read just about anything, but I want to give her something that she'll enjoy that's less adult or at least not dealing with adult issues.
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Post by fearnot on Jun 30, 2016 12:11:52 GMT -5
I have switched to watching a Navy crime scene investigation series (NCIS), Blue Bloods ( about a New York Police Irish Catholic family), Flashpoint (a Canadian special elite tactical police force unit ( no swearing or sex so far) but may soon have to just read books ONLY ( well except for news, and FH and e-mail)
Most of those programs at least allude to violent crimes, and it seems we have more than enough real VIOLENT crimes in our world.
I really need a Kindle fire fox for my birthday ( in case hubby is reading this LOL).
Well, I can't tell you much about my whimpy plants because they have gotten their way and have been cloistered inside due to cloudy weather.
Today will be 66 and partly cloudy.....so prob won't go out today either.
However, my tumeric plant which was pulling a "I'm dying' routine, has grown another whole stem, now that it is inside and nice and cozy!!!
Anybody found a good way to 'wash' an older cat? Sinbad seems to be smelling a LOT more. I think its a combo of things....eating icky smelling cat food, then washing his fur with food particles on his tongue, teeth and/or gums, and just maybe age....
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2016 12:26:56 GMT -5
Good day Barbra
I don't' have an old cat but the only thing I could think to maybe clean the cat would be dry shampoo. I remember there used to be dry shampoo. I don't remember ever buying any and I don't know if it is still around. That is what I would try if I could find it or else baby powder for the cat's fur.
There is breath freshener for animals that can be bought at a feed store or online. I had some once but didn't use it for the dogs and threw it away. If you could use a toothbrush and dog toothpaste that would probably be good. I use that for my dogs.
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Post by dogstaff on Jun 30, 2016 13:43:55 GMT -5
I finally got everything put back after the carpet cleaning. I even went to exercise class this morning. Did laundry too. Hubby returned to our daughter's house to finish the sprinkler project. He said her oldest son helped him and they had a good time working together.
I'm still reading books by Davis Bunn. This morning I checked out The Sign Painter and will start it later this afternoon.
Hope everyone is staying cool. Hugs.
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Post by fearnot on Jun 30, 2016 16:46:12 GMT -5
Thank you Anna for your suggestions.
I would like to use the dry shampoo and the baby powder, but I wonder if they would be toxic, because the cat licks his fur?
I did used to brush my Airedales teeth, and she was fine with that......but cats can be soooooo picky and fussy!!
I can just seeing going to a pet store and the 'toothpaste' being $8 or more, and fussy cat, spitting out the very first bit.
Of course, he 'might' like it and go for it.
Anyway, thank you for the thoughts, if I get a wee bit of extra cash, I might give them a try.
I was thinking maybe putting aloe on his fur
or......
a solution of Bragg's apple Cider vinegar and water.....what do you think? anyone?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2016 20:11:15 GMT -5
I like Braggs apple cider vinegar. I use it to make sour dough and then make tortillas. I just finished baking a carrot cake in a toaster oven, I was hoping it would turn out OK and it did.
About the stinky cat, wouldn't apple cider vinegar with water make the stinky cat even stinkier?  lol
Maybe use a dryer sheet to rub on the cat's fur, that would be cheap and smell good.
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Post by sevenofnine on Jun 30, 2016 20:28:59 GMT -5
Actually Gettv been showing rarely seen tv show on Wednesday night I saw Airwolf and wednesdaay before I saw Johnny Sancitaro and Felody Squad very rare you could tell the episode was tatter on video
BTW I was cruise around on FR somebody post this on FR FB page LOL!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2016 20:45:50 GMT -5
 every one from sunny southern California, and HOT...not to bad this week, well yesterday was bad.... Work has been wicked slow, and the three months are up since I took this new position, as Boeing final QC. it's been a lot of learning for sure, but it's stuff I like. I talked to my boss today, and let her know that the time was up, and we needed to talk about a raise. what she said didn't sound good, SO I be updating my resume this weekend. a prayer or two would be appreciated for my job/raise or new job, what ever the Lords will is. Cindy, Chippy2 is a cute as a button. Question, how do you know it's #2? yes, I agree, divorce and kids are a wicked thing. especially when the x is evil and no's not what truth is, or love for that matter! wishing every one a Happy Independence day this coming monday! we are looking forward to a 3 day weekend again! AND it's a Jazz of a Jazzy weekend. It's been a month since we've seen our baby! Baby, good heavens she's 10!!!! Barbra, happy to hear your furbaby is doing better!  to you all! |
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Post by sevenofnine on Jun 30, 2016 22:17:28 GMT -5
Yeah it was warm where I am wait till August I saw extended forecast we having infamous June Gloom earlier this week going this part of the week after Fourth of July the serious heat comin
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2016 10:11:27 GMT -5
Kelly you are the second person I have heard say that serious heat is coming soon, much hotter than what we have already had this summer, where do you get your weather info from, I go to NOAA and Accuweather to get weather information.
I was just thinking about this Christian woman that has decided to go to medical school, with the goal of bettering herself for a better paying job. She will have to take out student loans- that is where the question is for people now days. I think in the past that used to work OK for people to take out student loans, but I notice that people question now days if that is a good idea, some people don't get the job they want and can't pay back the student loans. About half of her friends say go for it, and half say don't do it, interesting, I don't know. But what is good is that she has faith, and prayers.
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Post by fearnot on Jul 1, 2016 19:52:10 GMT -5
Anna:
You made me laugh, Bragg's making a stinky cat stinkier LOL
I like your idea about a dryer sheet...won't clean him up much but might smell a lot better!!
well, with a troublesome cat, and fussy plants ( out 'sunning' as I post, and will have to come back in in an hour or two)
I guess, it was inevitable I would find some other vexing thing....such enough...I just had hubby buy me some kefir starter ( lots and lots and lots of pro-biotics!!!)
Once you wake them up you can use them forever ( sort of like a sour dough starter I am thinking).
I never had a sour dough starter so I am only guessing.....
Still, they sound a 'little' (maybe more than a little?) fussy, at least at first...
But I have been watching you-tubes videos on how to wake them up, how to store them etc.
Hummmmm maybe, I can pour the kefir over the stinky cat what do you think LOL
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2016 20:44:34 GMT -5
Barbra
I like kefir. I wish I knew you were going to buy kefir, is it water kefir or milk kefir? Both are good to have. I take kefir on and off and would continue but my body reacts to it, even though it makes me feel better, I get a rash from milk kefir, and I have never heard of anyone getting a rash from it, I could just kick myself in the rear and water kefir I like but I have a fussy liver, so I gave it up, I think it is 1% alachol. The reason I wish I knew you were going to buy kefir was I would have gave my opinion not to get the powder kefir but instead buy from amazon for under ten dollars. If the powder doesn't work you can get it from amazon which is a good deal also there is the kefirlady.com who mails kefir also.
Kefir doesn't smell that good, it has a slight off smell, but one gets used to it. I think it would be good for a cat to drink also.
Oh I read your post again, maybe you did get the kefir grains and not the powder.
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Post by Cindy on Jul 2, 2016 9:44:23 GMT -5
Sorry I was MIA yesterday. It was a totally crazy day. First I didn't wake up till 9:30 which has never happened before and then Bruce wound up getting off work at noon (with pay!) so he wanted to go get the shopping done. Plus I had a doctor appointment at 4:15. We managed to get it all done, but by the time we got back home and got everything put away, neither one of us had the energy to cook supper so we just ate cereal and collapsed in our chairs till bedtime lol Today will be busy too but not as bad as yesterday thankfully.I have switched to watching a Navy crime scene investigation series (NCIS), Blue Bloods ( about a New York Police Irish Catholic family), Flashpoint (a Canadian special elite tactical police force unit ( no swearing or sex so far) but may soon have to just read books ONLY ( well except for news, and FH and e-mail)
Most of those programs at least allude to violent crimes, and it seems we have more than enough real VIOLENT crimes in our world.
I really need a Kindle fire fox for my birthday ( in case hubby is reading this LOL).
Well, I can't tell you much about my whimpy plants because they have gotten their way and have been cloistered inside due to cloudy weather.
Today will be 66 and partly cloudy.....so prob won't go out today either.
However, my tumeric plant which was pulling a "I'm dying' routine, has grown another whole stem, now that it is inside and nice and cozy!!!
Anybody found a good way to 'wash' an older cat? Sinbad seems to be smelling a LOT more. I think its a combo of things....eating icky smelling cat food, then washing his fur with food particles on his tongue, teeth and/or gums, and just maybe age....
Good day Barbra
I don't' have an old cat but the only thing I could think to maybe clean the cat would be dry shampoo. I remember there used to be dry shampoo. I don't remember ever buying any and I don't know if it is still around. That is what I would try if I could find it or else baby powder for the cat's fur.
There is breath freshener for animals that can be bought at a feed store or online. I had some once but didn't use it for the dogs and threw it away. If you could use a toothbrush and dog toothpaste that would probably be good. I use that for my dogs. I finally got everything put back after the carpet cleaning. I even went to exercise class this morning. Did laundry too. Hubby returned to our daughter's house to finish the sprinkler project. He said her oldest son helped him and they had a good time working together. I'm still reading books by Davis Bunn. This morning I checked out The Sign Painter and will start it later this afternoon. Hope everyone is staying cool. Hugs. Thank you Anna for your suggestions.
I would like to use the dry shampoo and the baby powder, but I wonder if they would be toxic, because the cat licks his fur?
I did used to brush my Airedales teeth, and she was fine with that......but cats can be soooooo picky and fussy!!
I can just seeing going to a pet store and the 'toothpaste' being $8 or more, and fussy cat, spitting out the very first bit.
Of course, he 'might' like it and go for it.
Anyway, thank you for the thoughts, if I get a wee bit of extra cash, I might give them a try.
I was thinking maybe putting aloe on his fur
or......
a solution of Bragg's apple Cider vinegar and water.....what do you think? anyone? I like Braggs apple cider vinegar. I use it to make sour dough and then make tortillas. I just finished baking a carrot cake in a toaster oven, I was hoping it would turn out OK and it did.
About the stinky cat, wouldn't apple cider vinegar with water make the stinky cat even stinkier? lol
Maybe use a dryer sheet to rub on the cat's fur, that would be cheap and smell good. Actually Gettv been showing rarely seen tv show on Wednesday night I saw Airwolf and wednesdaay before I saw Johnny Sancitaro and Felody Squad very rare you could tell the episode was tatter on video BTW I was cruise around on FR somebody post this on FR FB page LOL! Don't ask every one from sunny southern California, and HOT...not to bad this week, well yesterday was bad.... Work has been wicked slow, and the three months are up since I took this new position, as Boeing final QC. it's been a lot of learning for sure, but it's stuff I like. I talked to my boss today, and let her know that the time was up, and we needed to talk about a raise. what she said didn't sound good, SO I be updating my resume this weekend. a prayer or two would be appreciated for my job/raise or new job, what ever the Lords will is. Cindy, Chippy2 is a cute as a button. Question, how do you know it's #2? yes, I agree, divorce and kids are a wicked thing. especially when the x is evil and no's not what truth is, or love for that matter! wishing every one a Happy Independence day this coming monday! we are looking forward to a 3 day weekend again! AND it's a Jazz of a Jazzy weekend. It's been a month since we've seen our baby! Baby, good heavens she's 10!!!! Barbra, happy to hear your furbaby is doing better! to you all! Yeah it was warm where I am wait till August I saw extended forecast we having infamous June Gloom earlier this week going this part of the week after Fourth of July the serious heat comin Kelly you are the second person I have heard say that serious heat is coming soon, much hotter than what we have already had this summer, where do you get your weather info from, I go to NOAA and Accuweather to get weather information.
I was just thinking about this Christian woman that has decided to go to medical school, with the goal of bettering herself for a better paying job. She will have to take out student loans- that is where the question is for people now days. I think in the past that used to work OK for people to take out student loans, but I notice that people question now days if that is a good idea, some people don't get the job they want and can't pay back the student loans. About half of her friends say go for it, and half say don't do it, interesting, I don't know. But what is good is that she has faith, and prayers. Anna:
You made me laugh, Bragg's making a stinky cat stinkier LOL
I like your idea about a dryer sheet...won't clean him up much but might smell a lot better!!
well, with a troublesome cat, and fussy plants ( out 'sunning' as I post, and will have to come back in in an hour or two)
I guess, it was inevitable I would find some other vexing thing....such enough...I just had hubby buy me some kefir starter ( lots and lots and lots of pro-biotics!!!)
Once you wake them up you can use them forever ( sort of like a sour dough starter I am thinking).
I never had a sour dough starter so I am only guessing.....
Still, they sound a 'little' (maybe more than a little?) fussy, at least at first...
But I have been watching you-tubes videos on how to wake them up, how to store them etc.
Hummmmm maybe, I can pour the kefir over the stinky cat what do you think LOL
 Barbra
I like kefir. I wish I knew you were going to buy kefir, is it water kefir or milk kefir? Both are good to have. I take kefir on and off and would continue but my body reacts to it, even though it makes me feel better, I get a rash from milk kefir, and I have never heard of anyone getting a rash from it, I could just kick myself in the rear and water kefir I like but I have a fussy liver, so I gave it up, I think it is 1% alachol. The reason I wish I knew you were going to buy kefir was I would have gave my opinion not to get the powder kefir but instead buy from amazon for under ten dollars. If the powder doesn't work you can get it from amazon which is a good deal also there is the kefirlady.com who mails kefir also.
Kefir doesn't smell that good, it has a slight off smell, but one gets used to it. I think it would be good for a cat to drink also.
Oh I read your post again, maybe you did get the kefir grains and not the powder.
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Post by Leigh on Jul 2, 2016 10:35:40 GMT -5
Hi everyone. Been enjoying reading all your posts; I'm so glad that "traffic" has picked up here in Chat over the last couple of weeks. I was beginning to worry about us! (Of course, I'm not posting nearly as much as I used to either, so I blame myself too....) Actually I'm posting now because Cindy asked me to remind her of something I "shared" yesterday on Facebook -- she wanted to put 14 year old Harrison on her prayer list because his leukemia has returned. This boy is a friend of my sister's family. He was diagnosed originally around age 10 or 11 and took three years of intensive treatments; he has been fine for a year. This is what his father posted on their "Pray for Harrison" FB page: I had hope to never write this. Harrison's cancer is back. We found out this morning trying to figure out why Harrison had been having headaches and nausea. He pitched two innings last night and gave up only two hits. Tonight he is in the hospital preparing to start chemo tomorrow. He is devastated. Prayers greatly appreciated.
 I will be keeping up with him and will try and update. Of course, any of you on Facebook are welcome to follow along on "Pray for Harrison." He had surgery to put in a port the next day and the follow-up post said: Harrison is out of surgery and recovering. He is in some pain but it's tolerable. Bigger disappointment for him: "I don't want to lose my hair." Sometimes it's the little things. He got chemo in his spine during surgery and will start other chemo tonight. Pray that he responds well to it without considerable sickness through the night. Hope to learn more of the plan tonight or tomorrow. Thanks for continuing to #pray4harrison.
Harrison is now home for the weekend and will have to report back to the hospital on Tuesday. Yesterday his dad wrote:
We got home from the hospital last night around 11:30. It was a late night but we would all rather be home than the hospital. This morning we opened the mail and found a letter from Harrison's school inviting him to be a member of the 9th grade leadership team. What an honor for a young man who has fought so much. He is truly a leader.The good thing about the FB page is you can also see pictures. He is a handsome young man! Praying for God to take care of them all.  |
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Post by sevenofnine on Jul 2, 2016 11:13:07 GMT -5
I usually got Accuweather or Weather underground I got tired of Weather channel reality show so I been stick to those network now Weather underground is mostly internet service my Verzion Fios turn Frontier Fios carry that officially that only cable channel carry it they making plans right now do other cable system
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Post by sevenofnine on Jul 2, 2016 11:15:20 GMT -5
Ever since Al Jazeera America got dropped tbey brought back on Frontier Fios One America news and brought back BBC world news they were kick butt on coverage of terrible Baghdaldiash attack in that café yesterday
Also I get OTA Retro tv networks so I was binge watching Dick Cavett this week like Bette Davis, John Carradine and Marldo Brando was on yesterday on Decades tv network this weekend Burke law reruns
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Post by fearnot on Jul 2, 2016 12:21:52 GMT -5
Anna:
I wrote it was a kerfir starter actually it was the milk kefir grains. However, several video's have said you can actually use the milk kefir for water/juice, you just have to rinse them well, but after a few times, you rince them again, and use milk again ( so they can grow, the milk ones 'grow' in milk, so they must go back in milk after 3-5 'water' uses).
Cindy: one of the reasons I am trying grains instead of pills, is cost. Once you pay the original ( in this case $20), is they last forever ( unless you heat them, or use metal).
Obviously depending on what 'propaganda/advertising LOL kerfir is said to be 100 times more effective than pills .
One site put it this way:
"Many people wonder if probiotic pills provide the same benefit as probiotic foods since they seem to be marketed in the same way—healthy bacteria for our guts.
However, probiotic foods work significantly better because of their construction.
To get into the small intestine and colon, where they do the work of breaking down and processing food and powering up the immune system, the bacteria first have to move through the stomach, but the stomach is filled with acid designed to kill bacteria.
When you eat a probiotic food, the food itself provides a protective armor that helps shield the friendly bacteria. It also speeds the transport out of the stomach, thus keeping the good bacteria intact.
Probiotic pills are often trapped in the acids of the stomach, and the probiotics are killed before the body ever gets a chance to use them....
It’s unusual to find a probiotic supplement containing more than 10 billion colony-forming units.
( another source says:
Pills on the other hand typically contain between 50 million-10 billion bacteria units per pill.
10 trillion ( from a small amount of kefir grains) would be more than a whole bottle of probiotic pills.)
back to first site which goes on to say:.... actually tested fermented vegetables ( and homemade kefir that is not heated etc. my words not in the article) ) produced by probiotic starter cultures, they had 10 trillion colony-forming units of bacteria. "
In other words they are also more bio-available ( according to the grains and even powdered starters).
But really I am positive pills have value. It seems like pills are less time consuming but may have more nutrients, but pills are easier, but more spendy in the long run. So it's 6 of one and half a dozen of the others.
However, there are all sorts of neat things you can do with kefir ( I happen to love the taste and it never smelled bad to me?)
You can use your homemade kefir and put your own fresh berries in, or make coconut kefir, citrus kefir, use it to make cultured veggies, kefir cheese etc. etc.
Apparently (other than heat or metal) Kefir grains live forever....who knew?
But if you don't use them every day ( well every 2-3 days) then after a week or two they sort of go back to sleep, and you have to wake them up again.
And.....they keep on growing, so its sort of like having a very fruitful tree, that you are constantly asking neighbors if they would like some ( for free)
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2016 19:49:05 GMT -5
That is what is nice about kefir, you keep growing your own for free!  Now I am making my own yogurt, for probiotics and I keep using my own culture also. Yogurt works well for me because I like sugar.
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I know what you mean about the weather channel reality show, I can't watch that either, it takes up to much of my time.
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Post by Cindy on Jul 3, 2016 10:47:29 GMT -5
Hi everyone. Been enjoying reading all your posts; I'm so glad that "traffic" has picked up here in Chat over the last couple of weeks. I was beginning to worry about us! (Of course, I'm not posting nearly as much as I used to either, so I blame myself too....) Actually I'm posting now because Cindy asked me to remind her of something I "shared" yesterday on Facebook -- she wanted to put 14 year old Harrison on her prayer list because his leukemia has returned. This boy is a friend of my sister's family. He was diagnosed originally around age 10 or 11 and took three years of intensive treatments; he has been fine for a year. This is what his father posted on their "Pray for Harrison" FB page: I had hope to never write this. Harrison's cancer is back. We found out this morning trying to figure out why Harrison had been having headaches and nausea. He pitched two innings last night and gave up only two hits. Tonight he is in the hospital preparing to start chemo tomorrow. He is devastated. Prayers greatly appreciated.
I will be keeping up with him and will try and update. Of course, any of you on Facebook are welcome to follow along on "Pray for Harrison." He had surgery to put in a port the next day and the follow-up post said: Harrison is out of surgery and recovering. He is in some pain but it's tolerable. Bigger disappointment for him: "I don't want to lose my hair." Sometimes it's the little things. He got chemo in his spine during surgery and will start other chemo tonight. Pray that he responds well to it without considerable sickness through the night. Hope to learn more of the plan tonight or tomorrow. Thanks for continuing to #pray4harrison.
Harrison is now home for the weekend and will have to report back to the hospital on Tuesday. Yesterday his dad wrote:
We got home from the hospital last night around 11:30. It was a late night but we would all rather be home than the hospital. This morning we opened the mail and found a letter from Harrison's school inviting him to be a member of the 9th grade leadership team. What an honor for a young man who has fought so much. He is truly a leader.The good thing about the FB page is you can also see pictures. He is a handsome young man! Praying for God to take care of them all. I usually got Accuweather or Weather underground I got tired of Weather channel reality show so I been stick to those network now Weather underground is mostly internet service my Verzion Fios turn Frontier Fios carry that officially that only cable channel carry it they making plans right now do other cable system Just started last year Anna:
I wrote it was a kerfir starter actually it was the milk kefir grains. However, several video's have said you can actually use the milk kefir for water/juice, you just have to rinse them well, but after a few times, you rince them again, and use milk again ( so they can grow, the milk ones 'grow' in milk, so they must go back in milk after 3-5 'water' uses).
Cindy: one of the reasons I am trying grains instead of pills, is cost. Once you pay the original ( in this case $20), is they last forever ( unless you heat them, or use metal).
Obviously depending on what 'propaganda/advertising LOL kerfir is said to be 100 times more effective than pills .
One site put it this way:
"Many people wonder if probiotic pills provide the same benefit as probiotic foods since they seem to be marketed in the same way—healthy bacteria for our guts.
However, probiotic foods work significantly better because of their construction.
To get into the small intestine and colon, where they do the work of breaking down and processing food and powering up the immune system, the bacteria first have to move through the stomach, but the stomach is filled with acid designed to kill bacteria.
When you eat a probiotic food, the food itself provides a protective armor that helps shield the friendly bacteria. It also speeds the transport out of the stomach, thus keeping the good bacteria intact.
Probiotic pills are often trapped in the acids of the stomach, and the probiotics are killed before the body ever gets a chance to use them....
It’s unusual to find a probiotic supplement containing more than 10 billion colony-forming units.
( another source says:
Pills on the other hand typically contain between 50 million-10 billion bacteria units per pill.
10 trillion ( from a small amount of kefir grains) would be more than a whole bottle of probiotic pills.)
back to first site which goes on to say:.... actually tested fermented vegetables ( and homemade kefir that is not heated etc. my words not in the article) ) produced by probiotic starter cultures, they had 10 trillion colony-forming units of bacteria. "
In other words they are also more bio-available ( according to the grains and even powdered starters).
But really I am positive pills have value. It seems like pills are less time consuming but may have more nutrients, but pills are easier, but more spendy in the long run. So it's 6 of one and half a dozen of the others.
However, there are all sorts of neat things you can do with kefir ( I happen to love the taste and it never smelled bad to me?)
You can use your homemade kefir and put your own fresh berries in, or make coconut kefir, citrus kefir, use it to make cultured veggies, kefir cheese etc. etc.
Apparently (other than heat or metal) Kefir grains live forever....who knew?
But if you don't use them every day ( well every 2-3 days) then after a week or two they sort of go back to sleep, and you have to wake them up again.
And.....they keep on growing, so its sort of like having a very fruitful tree, that you are constantly asking neighbors if they would like some ( for free)
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Here's a copy of a post I wrote telling about my experience with these:
Oh Lorrie, you're by no means alone! I do things like that all the time. Ever since we heard the saying about potatoes though, it's been a constant line between me and Bruce. Once in awhile I'll say it to him, but it seems like he's constantly having to remind me! 
Because you know people with crohns and those who have constant UTI's, as well as those who have GERD IBS, and other intestine and/or bowel problems, I want to tell you about these two supplements I found with the Lord's help. You know how I feel about vitamins and supplements it's not at all something I'm into or that I would normally even think about since I had that brain tumor caused by vitamin A! But the Lord first pointed these out to me and then seemed to really want me to try these and so I did. At the time I began taking the Pro15, my stomach and bowels were so bad that I was taking a very large prescription dose of pantoprazole and my doctor wasn't really happy about that. But even with that large dose, my stomach was a mess and I was miserable. Nothing seemed to help and he'd tried any number of different meds for me and I'd tried a few on my own to no effect. That's what finally led me to more specific prayer for help and then to the pro15. Having taken it for months now, I can honestly say it helped! I was cautious at first, not wanting to get my hopes up and thinking maybe it was just a coincidence, but time showed that it wasn't. I was first able to cut the dose of the pantaprazole in half, and then, finally able to drop it altogether and go back to a mild, over the counter dose of pepcid once a day! (I have a feeling that I no longer need that either, but haven't gotten up the guts to let it go yet - pardon the pun lol) On top of that, my bowel problems improved as well so that was also quite a relief. I was taking miralax for constipation but after about a week, it would give me the opposite problem, so it was back and forth between the two all the time. Now, I take the miralax about once every week and half and I'm all set. No problems! Plus, since taking the pro15, I can finally eat normal regular food again, just like other people! I still have my moments when I'm not feeling well due to other problems and don't eat "right', but that's another thing altogether.
When I first found the pro15, I did a lot of research on it. According to what I'd learned, I needed to have certain specific supplements and this had all of them and more. There was one other brand that some people said was even better, but after reading everything, I took that to be simple personal preference, and then later when I read it more carefully, discovered that was exactly what the author said. (plus that one was even more expensive, putting it out of my ability to pay) I literally had pages and pages of a word document filled with information on this before I first decided to buy it. I also took the time to read all of the over 2000 reviews and 200 answered questions at the time. Now there's over 4000 reviews and 286 answered questions!!!!! Out of all those reviews it has a 4.3 out of 5 rating.
I don't know if I mentioned this before or not, but Gracie also has what she calls "tummy problems" and constipation. (IBS) One evening after dinner at my house, her tummy started hurting because of this. Jenn gave her my pro15, (I'd checked to make sure it was ok for children) and her tummy stopped hurting within about an hour! That had NEVER happened before. Jenn gave her another one the next morning "just to be sure". It's the only thing that's ever helped Gracie and there are many reviews that say similar things about children on this too.
Here's what Pro15 has in it: Proprietary Probiotic Blend: 5 billion CFU
L.plantarum, L.fermentum, L.acidophilus, B.infantis, L.casei, B.longum, L.rhamnosus, B.lactis, L.reuteri, L.salivarius, L.paracasei, L.gasseri, B.bifidum, B.breve, S.thermophilus
Prebiotic Fructooligosaccharides (FOS) 25 mg
In ProWomen: The strains in PRO-Women are L.plantarum, L.fermentum, L.acidophilus, L.reuteri, L.rhamnosus, and B.bifidum. There are 5 billion colony forming units (CFUs) in each tablet and each tablet also includes cranberry extract and D-Mannose.
Prowomen as a 4.4 out of 5 star rating and over 800 reviews and 46 answered questions at this time. I'll give you the links to both so you and/or your friends can begin their own research if they're interested.
I hope this helps you and anyone you know that has any kind of problems with their stomach, intestines, bowels, or urinary tract.
PRO15
PROWOMEN
That is what is nice about kefir, you keep growing your own for free! Now I am making my own yogurt, for probiotics and I keep using my own culture also. Yogurt works well for me because I like sugar.
Kelly, BBC World news
I know what you mean about the weather channel reality show, I can't watch that either, it takes up to much of my time.
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Post by sevenofnine on Jul 3, 2016 11:21:31 GMT -5
I am hooked on One America news I stop watching Fox news in last six months they add when Al Jazeera America went off the air they sometime had better coverage on international news scene yes it own by Wash Times LOL!
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Post by sevenofnine on Jul 3, 2016 17:16:38 GMT -5
BTW Reelz channel has new series called Autopsy tv show it based on real life celebrites autosopy report tell me a lot
In life and death we are born then live then died it just seem some celebrities need all that drugs to fill that inner empty space in their lifes
I was watching Anna Nicole Smith then earlier Elvis man those people are a lot of drugs in them only for 12 hours
I am waiting for Twilight Zone marathon start on Sci fi channel and NCIS reruns on USA networks
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Post by sevenofnine on Jul 3, 2016 19:49:49 GMT -5
Yeah I been binge watching all weekend stay inside I know my wacky neighbors down the street lit up firecrackers last night the bratty daughter going do it tonight
I was going back forth on Reelz to Christmas in July movies in Hallmark and NCIS reruns this weekend
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2016 0:44:49 GMT -5
Yeah I been binge watching all weekend stay inside I know my wacky neighbors down the street lit up firecrackers last night the bratty daughter going do it tonight I was going back forth on Reelz to Christmas in July movies in Hallmark and NCIS reruns this weekend Yeah I have been staying inside also. Two neighbors used to shoot off their guns, I don't think they do it anymore, both would shoot because they did not like each other, but I think they leave each alone now, and cautiously avoid each other. I like to watch old Christmas movies. |
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Post by Cindy on Jul 4, 2016 10:24:22 GMT -5
I'm so excited and can hardly believe it happened! Do you all remember the videos I posted years ago that showed Sunny playing hide and seek with the squirrels? Well, they haven't done that since he died either, at least not till yesterday; but yesterday they came back and began to teach Chloe how to play hide and seek!!! It was hilarious! Bruce saw them first and ran in and told me so I could watch too. The squirrels never went away, and neither did the chipmunks, they've always stayed around the yard and gotten their food from the feeder, but had stopped coming to the windows and door to play with the cats till just recently. I have no idea what changed or why they waited till now. Maybe they thought Rascal and Chloe were too little last year... Angel was never interested. She always just laid around and watched Sunny play with them, and didn't try to play with them herself. So that's probably partly why they stopped for awhile after Sunny died. I'm just so glad they've come back though, as it's so much fun to watch them all play together!I am hooked on One America news I stop watching Fox news in last six months they add when Al Jazeera America went off the air they sometime had better coverage on international news scene yes it own by Wash Times LOL! BTW Reelz channel has new series called Autopsy tv show it based on real life celebrites autosopy report tell me a lot In life and death we are born then live then died it just seem some celebrities need all that drugs to fill that inner empty space in their lifes I was watching Anna Nicole Smith then earlier Elvis man those people are a lot of drugs in them only for 12 hours I am waiting for Twilight Zone marathon start on Sci fi channel and NCIS reruns on USA networks Yeah I been binge watching all weekend stay inside I know my wacky neighbors down the street lit up firecrackers last night the bratty daughter going do it tonight I was going back forth on Reelz to Christmas in July movies in Hallmark and NCIS reruns this weekend Yeah I been binge watching all weekend stay inside I know my wacky neighbors down the street lit up firecrackers last night the bratty daughter going do it tonight I was going back forth on Reelz to Christmas in July movies in Hallmark and NCIS reruns this weekend Yeah I have been staying inside also. Two neighbors used to shoot off their guns, I don't think they do it anymore, both would shoot because they did not like each other, but I think they leave each alone now, and cautiously avoid each other. I like to watch old Christmas movies.
but now I've learned to sleep right through them LOL
Have a great 4th!
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Post by sevenofnine on Jul 4, 2016 11:53:54 GMT -5
Yeah you could tell between fireworks and gunshots I could tell the difference LOL!
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Post by Leigh on Jul 5, 2016 7:38:49 GMT -5
This is the strangest thing, but our beautiful dog, Thunder, disappeared last night. Timothy put him out in the back yard (which is fenced) around 10:00 and when he went to let him in a few minutes later, Thunder was gone. We were out searching the yard by flashlight, calling his name.... Thunder was nowhere to be found. So this morning I was out early, looking again, walking the back yard, driving the neighborhood, asking a couple of neighbors who were out if they've seen him.... he has vanished. He is 11 years old, which is old for a collie, so we've known we won't have him much longer.... but to totally disappear in a matter of a few minutes???  I know that God cares for His animals, so if you don't mind, please say a prayer that we will find out what happened to our dear pet. |
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Elijah is 10 now, so I expected him to be able to read adult books, but not my little Gracie!
lol
Now I am making my own yogurt, for probiotics and I keep using my own culture also. Yogurt works well for me because I like sugar.
Barbra I hope you order a bottle of Pro15 and try it along with the kefir. Maybe it would give you enough energy to jog to the state of AZ. 
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