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Post by Cindy on Sept 4, 2020 10:25:07 GMT -5
Aha I did forget but put the links in :) Thanks hon! I will try to finish up about video gaming entertainment today, but it might run into tomorrow.... (yep....tomorrow)
I mentioned the so called potential 'positives 'to the brain that playing video games seem to have via MRI studies and the like.
However, while there are about 3 or 4 of those 'positives'.... there is also the fact, that thru MRI etc. they show a lessening of the 'grey' matter ( or the 'thinking' part of the brain). hhttps://www.brainandlife.org/articles/how-do-video-games-affect-the-developing-brains-of-children/
There is also the release of dopamine similar to stimulant drugs like amphetamine and it addictive capability.
Still some experts say this: "It can feed information to the brain in a way that maximizes learning" www.brainandlife.org/articles/how-do-video-games-affect-the-developing-brains-of-children/
But what exactly.....is being learned?
And to me this is not exactly a positive statement:
"It's exactly the same reward structure as a slot machine," says Dr. Greenfield" www.brainandlife.org/articles/how-do-video-games-affect-the-developing-brains-of-children/
(I could go on, but I will give one more quote from brain life ( it has the MRI's you can look at also)
"Young adult males who played a violent video game extensively for 2 weeks had lower activity in important brain areas while attempting to control behavior, compared to those who played no video games". www.brainandlife.org/articles/how-do-video-games-affect-the-developing-brains-of-children/
I don't think every child that plays video games will become addicted ( tho, most children I know can and in some cases do spend 6-8 hours or longer, playing)
Nor, will they all become more aggressive and yes, there is plenty of violence in the real world that affects them also!!!!
However, I don't think many video games fit these qualifications:
8[smear:#4bb56b] Finally, brothers, whatever is true, whatever is honorable, whatever is just, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is commendable, if there is any excellence, if there is anything worthy of praise, think about these things. Philippians 4:8[/smear:#bd3ec7:0]
It's sad to me, that such a list, for many, seems booooring!!!
I read somewhere a looooong time ago and I cannot remember where
that watching violence on TV, movies, and ( I am pretty certain video games)
that your eyes/brain cannot really discern that it is not real.
Yes, one one level you are aware you are playing a 'game',
However, there is also another level that your eyes says it sees danger and your brain reacts accordingly..... and thus this is possible the
"....... brain and psyche become overstimulated and excited — on fire! .... nervous system shifts into high gear
(and for video games)
strategizing, surviving, accumulating weapons, and defending his turf. His heart rate increases from 80 to over 100 beats per minute, and his blood pressure rises from a normal 90/60 to 140/90 — www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/mental-wealth/201609/is-your-childs-brain-video-games
Not exactly:
[smear:#19e65c]18 If possible, so far as it depends on you, live peaceably with all. Romans 12:18[/smear:#e63c19:0]
I have got to wonder what effect on one's health, being overstimulated daily, for long periods of time will perhaps, soon, start showing up in teens or young adults being under constant stress of war?
Real life soldiers often suffer PTSD what about children?
It seems to me that the brain and body, on 'some level' is convinced it's in a 'real' war and real danger
( which it now occurs to me , why my grandson has always jumped, jumped, jumped while playing video games he is in a simulated 'war' and his body is reacting correctly, to the danger it thinks is happening).
But the 'little' spiritual deception here is: you, and you alone...
are in charge
of fighting off the dangers ( be they wizards, zombies, skeletons etc).
But you do not have God's help in that situation
[smear:#2eb1f4]8 It is the Lord who goes before you. He will be with you; he will not leave you or forsake you. Do not fear or be dismayed.” Deuteronomy 31:8[/smear:#cb19e6:0]
Someone would have to be a fool not to react on some level with fear to a 'war'. Christians soldiers in real life, often pray tho they may die, they know they are not alone. But very young children are playing war with no help or comfort.
Joshua, in the Bible, was a man, in a great war Still this grown man, had this comfort from God:
[smear:#0ba8b2]5 No man shall be able to stand before you all the days of your life. Just as I was with Moses, so I will be with you. I will not leave you or forsake you. Joshua 1:5[/smear:#e6197e:0]
Well, onto more potential 'spiritual' deception
Many video games have magic in them. Magic is a way a human tries to manipulate his surroundings, to get what he or she wants
Whereas, Christians, know God is in control, but they can pray, and ask God for help etc.
But another part of 'magic' is spells and there are also spells in many games and again spells, put you in charge
This reminds me of Satan telling Adam and Eve, that:
[smear:#0d9ba7]5 For God knows that when you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, .... Genesis 3:5[/smear:#7020b7:0]
It seems to me, video games can feed this desire from way back to the Garden of Eden to be in charge....
and not only that, but to be your own god of your own created little world.
Done for today
Well said! I'd like to add though that there are people who play some games that are harmless and only play them for a short time. There's nothing at all wrong with that. For example, I like to play Mahjong which is a game where you match tiles and try to clear the board. I'd say the longest i play it is about a half an hour at a time. Nor do I play it every day. I go months without playing it at all. I just play it when I have time and I feel like it. There are a number of games that don't have anything evil or bad involved in them, and people don't play against other "live", but simply play by themselves occasionally. I've noticed however that you now can play these games and compete with others online when you do so, but I choose not to do that. I prefer instead to compete against myself, as do many other people. That way it's not so addicting. Oh I agree, whatever we listen to,read,watch etc. is going to have either a godly effect or not...it will be worldly at best ( and that is NOT a good thing)..... but often is worse.
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Post by fearnot on Sept 4, 2020 11:29:15 GMT -5
I agree Cindy, its not so much the playing of games but things like how often does one play ( daily) how long ( 6-10 or more hours each day....these are not unusual for a lot of kids and teens)
Also, how much violence, magic, occult, lawlessness, etc. is in the game.
Yesterday, my grandson, said he has been feeling for a while now, he is playing too much, it is becoming priority and bible reading not so much It is starting to weigh on him.
He still does read his bible maybe one day for an hour or two...
then several days may go by
and he will be playing video games, and/or uploading, editing, doing drawing for it, etc. for hours and hours
and/or watching other you tube games from time to time
( he told me he has subscribed to over 1,000 gamers....not that he watches them all.....but he has at least once)
clearly there are many more than just 1,000 you tube gamers but those are the ones he watched so far.
I used to play card games like solitaire etc online, but I found myself playing more and more ( trying to beat my time, and others time etc).
So, I just quit....
I would rather read a Christian novel anyway, really! Plus, I was painting a lot more back then also, and I needed to use the time on gaming, for painting.
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Post by fearnot on Sept 4, 2020 11:54:34 GMT -5
I am hopefully going to finish up about video games ( and other games) today.
I think another potential spiritual issue/danger is:
The longer a person ( especially a child or teen, because their minds are still forming) spends in a 'universe' without God the easier it is for sins to be lessened and attitudes like:
just having 'fun' if it feels right do it, pride and competition surface
( When I played online card games, I soon realized I tended to be more competitive than I ever realized.... which is just pride popping up I think) . Plus, another spiritual danger in the role playing games : like dungeon and Dragons, ( my son was very very involved in that)
Middle Earth Role-Playing etc. they have a lot of magic, sorcery, spells, violence, wars, etc.
One can begin to love the thrill and rush of war, violence and battle, the strategizing, prepping etc.
[smear:#292e9e]The Lord tests the righteous, but his soul hates the wicked and the one who loves violence. Psalms 11:5[/smear:#a1252e:0]
Not all will fall into this trap or web... but it is something to 'beware' of:
[smear:#36e619] Beware lest wrath entice you into scoffing, and let not the greatness of the ransom turn you aside. Job 36:18[/smear:#b319e6:0]
Listen to any gamer on you tube ( even the 'Christian ones) and nine times out of ten you are going to hear some swearing, and cursing.
But another 'tricky' spiritual downfall, is that, few video or role playing games or rather........ almost NONE, have ANY moral absolutes...
So killing, stealing, using a spell, lying, taking on the role of an evil character using crystals magic, or anything occult etc. etc. etc. Is not a 'SIN'....
it is just part of a 'GAME"
So that, to some extent, one is playing at doing things, that God hates:
[smear:#f55003] 16 There are six things that the Lord hates, seven that are an abomination to him: 17 haughty eyes, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, 18 a heart that devises wicked plans, feet that make haste to run to evil, 19 a false witness who breathes out lies, and one who sows discord among brothers. Proverbs 6:16-19[/smear:#05f3cf:0]
Winning is paramount in gaming, you do 'whatever' to defeat your opponents
[smear:#8a5ac3] The fear of the Lord is hatred of evil. Pride and arrogance and the way of evil and perverted speech I hate. Proverbs 8:13[/smear:#2a69b0:0]
In role playing games, you often 'memorize' spells (how much scripture is being memorized?) in video games they are usually right there
[smear:#4aa55c]10 There shall not be found among you anyone who burns his son or his daughter as an offering, anyone who practices divination or tells fortunes or interprets omens, or a sorcerer 11 or a charmer or a medium or a necromancer or one who inquires of the dead, 12 for whoever does these things is an abomination to the Lord. And because of these abominations the Lord your God is driving them out before you. 13 You shall be blameless before the Lord your God, 14 for these nations, which you are about to dispossess, listen to fortune-tellers and to diviners. But as for you, the Lord your God has not allowed you to do this Deuteronomy 18:10-14[/smear:#e619e4:0]
But while playing such games, you are immersing, infusing, permeating your mind, in an anti-God realm..... but you are often in, a new age, pagan.occult one....
A world where this is often the viewpoint:
[smear:#58b232]In the pride of his face the wicked does not seek him; all his thoughts are, [/smear:#7919e6:0] “There is no God.”
[smear:#19e639]Psalms 10:4[/smear:#c719e6:0]
The danger is that a gamer will get to the point where he or she is saying to God: you understand I need my fun and well, your Bible is not as exciting.
as these make believe worlds
But not much of this is in their hearts:
[smear:#19ae3d] 24 And those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires. Galatians 5:24[/smear:#a619e6:0]
My grandson said something to this effect yesterday Something like:
the world is in terrible distress and I am playing video games.
not that he quit but I am encouraged and do believe God is working on his heart.
it is not that I think we should never play a game but we need to be aware of the devils traps and webs.... webs are sticky, they are hard to get free of and a metal trap is even harder.
[smear:#f6148e]I set a snare for you and you were taken, O Babylon, and you did not know it; you were found and caught, because you opposed the Lord. Jeremiah 50:24[/smear:#3b36c7:0]
And here is a pray to consider:
[smear:#e6bd19]Keep me from the trap that they have laid for me and from the snares of evildoers! Psalm 141:9[/smear:#7d19e6:0]
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Post by fearnot on Sept 5, 2020 11:31:32 GMT -5
Just a note, in the little seaside town I live in, we are going to have another march/protest this time for open carry However, it is labor day weekend, and one of the biggest times the tourists flock here Soooo I an wonder if Antifa, SJW, BLM etc. groups will come to protest the march and go to the beach, Kind of like 'killing' 2 birds with one stone'?
And that, started me wondering, yet again, could the devil be engineering chaos,
In order, to eventually create 'his' so called order out of chaos
with what will maybe soon be, the unveiling of the anti-Christ?
It could be yet a few years ahead, and I know, these things have happened throughout history
And yet, the Bible prophecies have never been wrong so far...
We know the Bible talks about the end times being like: the days of Noah:
[smear:#42e619]37 For as were the days of Noah, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. Matthew 24:37[/smear:#5faefa:0]
But I only recently realized not only Noah, but also Lot:
[smear:#8ff933]28 Likewise, just as it was in the days of Lot— they were eating and drinking, buying and selling, planting and building, Luke 17:28[/smear:#4643b1:0]
So today, I would like to look at what was going on in those days and do we see any similarities to our days.
From the start of human history with Adam and Eve 1,600 years or so had passed ( until the days of Noah)
and in that time not only had to world increased greatly in population but even more so, had grown in sin.
In fact in Genesis, we saw the beginning of everything we see the first people the first murder(s) the first of defying God's pattern for marriage and the family etc. etc.
And the Earth was filled with violence:
[smear:#4854ae]11 Now the earth was corrupt in God's sight, and the earth was filled with violence. Genesis 6:11[/smear:#e61959:0]
In some ways , in Noah's time, it was business as usual so that one might not think that God was about to drown every single person except for 8 ( Noah and his family)
[smear:#44c061]26 Just as it was in the days of Noah, so will it be in the days of the Son of Man. 27 They were eating and drinking and marrying and being given in marriage, until the day when Noah entered the ark, and the flood came and destroyed them all. Luke 17:26,27[/smear:#b719e6:0]
So one might wonder: What? why? But remember the violence and the ungodly life styles, were so great that:
[smear:#f6c003] And the Lord regretted that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him to his heart. Genesis 6:6[/smear:#1b03e3:0]
For one thing, I am fairly certain, they did not kill as many unborn, as we today do world wide.
Noah was given 100 years to build the ark and preach, the End of the World...
But like today, people just scoffed,
After all ,the world had been going on the same as it ever had for 1, 600 years, and there never was any of this so-called rain!
God patiently and mercifully waited an extra 100 years while Noah built the ark
[smear:#1a8488]20 because they formerly did not obey, when God's patience waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was being prepared, in which a few, that is, eight persons, were brought safely through water. 1 Peter 3:20[/smear:#f49808:0]
And what people were like then.... I think we can see, they are now:
[smear:#0bf654] 1 But understand this, that in the last days there will come times of difficulty. 2 For people will be lovers of self, lovers of money, proud, arrogant, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, 3 heartless, unappeasable, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not loving good, 4 treacherous, reckless, swollen with conceit, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, 2 Timothy 3:1-4[/smear:#8a19e6:0]
And remember people lived a LOT longer in those days so they had a lot longer to do and perfect, their evil deeds.
But even if you think about just the eating and drinking and marrying and being given in marriage, What do you notice? and what is lacking ?
I notice, it is all about self and no mention at all of God.
So tho, not bad or evil, in, and of, themselves ( eating, drinking etc) it was all about 'self ' pleasures and indulging
Yet Jesus said: [smear:#067502] 22 And he said to his disciples, “Therefore I tell you, do not be anxious about your life, what you will eat, nor about your body, what you will put on. 23 For life is more than food, and the body more than clothing. Luke 12:22,23[/smear:#ae19e6:0]
and in Lot's day there was also this
[smear:#576575]7 just as Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding cities, which likewise indulged in sexual immorality and pursued unnatural desire, serve as an example by undergoing a punishment of eternal fire. Jude 1:7[/smear:#ba5233:0]
And this also:
[smear:#e619b5] 32 Though they know God's righteous decree that those who practice such things deserve to die, they not only do them but give approval to those who practice them. Romans 1:32[/smear:#1982e6:0]
This was how Lot felt:
[smear:#89f72b]7 and if he rescued righteous Lot, greatly distressed by the sensual conduct of the wicked 2 Peter 2:7[/smear:#196de6:0]
But as bad as that is, and was...
What about so called believers, of today's world who have 'itchy' ears?
We cannot expect unbelievers to act differently or not to scoff
[smear:#60c874]3 knowing this first of all, that scoffers will come in the last days with scoffing, following their own sinful desires. 4 They will say, “Where is the promise of his coming? For ever since the fathers fell asleep, all things are continuing as they were from the beginning of creation.” 2 Peter 3,4[/smear:#e619dc:0]
Except instead of saying, all things continue since Creation the unbeliever would say something like the Big bang.
But we need to 'beware' that we do not fall into this group, because the end times are coming and have already started:
[smear:#ae1493]3 For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions, 4 and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander off into myths. 2 Timothy 4:3-4[/smear:#0b52b8:0] Done for today
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Post by fearnot on Sept 6, 2020 9:54:10 GMT -5
Just a few brief notes on a very few things going on in the world today outside of USA Things like the ongoing water turf war between Greece and Turkey also land tussle between China and India both of those might fit into the 'wars and rumors of wars category.
Another news item is that sales of the gun manufacturer Smith and Weston has soared to 140% So much so they have to sped up production.
And then there is this news:
"Nuclear experts predict that Iran is now just 3.5 months away from the “breakout time,” a measurement of how close the country is to having the technology and materials to construct a nuclear weapon. It also now has the fuel to potentially construct two separate bombs. washingtondailyreport.com/iran-caught-stockpiling-enriched-uranium-needed-for-bomb/
Anyway today I am thinking about this verse ( note the 'thief' that Jesus is referring to in this parable is not only human thieves and human shepherds etc but the devil aka.... Satan.
[smear:#3e6aac]10 The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy. John 10:10[/smear:#be4e17:0]
and this verse also:
[smear:#e6193e] 44 You are of your father the devil, and your will is to do your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks out of his own character, for he is a liar and the father of lies. [/smear:#307427:0]
I would say in a way, we all are children of the devil until we are not, there is always the chance to become children of God.
You might wonder why I keep coming back to antifa, SJW, BLM etc. in part, because I live an hour away from Portland, that has had over 100 days of 'peaceful' protests according to the media but that is not what I would call it.
We get a pretty clear command from God about taking something that belongs to someone else
[smear:#f85719]15 “You shall not steal. Exodus 20:15[/smear:#b719e6:0]
I think most people have done that at least once in their life. As a child I stole and eraser out of a store but I felt so guilty I brought it right back.
But Antifa etal now say that they are NOT stealing and looting they are getting long over due reparations!
nypost.com/2020/08/11/black-lives-matter-organizer-calls-chicago-looting-reparation/
If this continues to grow and grow then I am thinking people might want to hold onto their possessions lightly and take this verse to heart:
1[smear:#0cfc61]9 “Do not lay up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy and where thieves break in and steal, Matthew 6:19[/smear:#ae19e6:0]
But remember the first 2 verses Satan is a thief and his children do like he does?
What else does the devil do? He destroys
I am not sure how one peacefully sets fires to buildings and cars and breaks windows etc. etc. But that is 'apparently' what the peaceful protesters do.
And the devil also kills We are starting to see that also. People are justifying why they should kill
But another thing the devil does is to deceive:
[smear:#23be95]9 And the great dragon was thrown down, that ancient serpent, who is called the devil and Satan, t he deceiver of the whole world— he was thrown down to the earth, and his angels were thrown down with him. Revelation 12:9[/smear:#710db6:0]
Done for today
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Post by Cindy on Sept 7, 2020 10:51:13 GMT -5
I agree Cindy, its not so much the playing of games but things like how often does one play ( daily) how long ( 6-10 or more hours each day....these are not unusual for a lot of kids and teens)
Also, how much violence, magic, occult, lawlessness, etc. is in the game.
Yesterday, my grandson, said he has been feeling for a while now, he is playing too much, it is becoming priority and bible reading not so much It is starting to weigh on him.
He still does read his bible maybe one day for an hour or two...
then several days may go by
and he will be playing video games, and/or uploading, editing, doing drawing for it, etc. for hours and hours
and/or watching other you tube games from time to time
( he told me he has subscribed to over 1,000 gamers....not that he watches them all.....but he has at least once)
clearly there are many more than just 1,000 you tube gamers but those are the ones he watched so far.
I used to play card games like solitaire etc online, but I found myself playing more and more ( trying to beat my time, and others time etc).
So, I just quit....
I would rather read a Christian novel anyway, really! Plus, I was painting a lot more back then also, and I needed to use the time on gaming, for painting.
You've obviously done a lot of research on video games. Did you do it because you wanted to tell your grandson how bad they are for him? Have you ever talked to him about having an accountability partner? (someone who will help him stay on the narrow road of salvation and warn him if they see him sinning or in a spiritually dangerous situation; and of course he would do the same for them. They would also pray for each other (in person if possible). It's always best for accountability partners to be the same sex and close to the same age if possible. Those aren't strict rules, but just good common sense guidelines.
One thing to keep in mind though is that it is the job of the Holy Spirit to convict us of our sins. Therefore we don't need another human being constantly telling us or reminding us that we're sinning. When someone does that to another person, it can cause that person to do the opposite of what the other person wants. It can cause them to turn away from God and us. I'm not saying we shouldn't tell someone that something is dangerous, or that something is a sin - we should! But we shouldn't constantly nag them about it. (I don't think you do that, but wanted to write this for anyone else that might read this thread.)
I am hopefully going to finish up about video games ( and other games) today.
I think another potential spiritual issue/danger is:
The longer a person ( especially a child or teen, because their minds are still forming) spends in a 'universe' without God the easier it is for sins to be lessened and attitudes like:
just having 'fun' if it feels right do it, pride and competition surface
( When I played online card games, I soon realized I tended to be more competitive than I ever realized.... which is just pride popping up I think) . Plus, another spiritual danger in the role playing games : like dungeon and Dragons, ( my son was very very involved in that)
Middle Earth Role-Playing etc. they have a lot of magic, sorcery, spells, violence, wars, etc.
One can begin to love the thrill and rush of war, violence and battle, the strategizing, prepping etc.
[smear:#292e9e]The Lord tests the righteous, but his soul hates the wicked and the one who loves violence. Psalms 11:5[/smear:#a1252e:0]
Not all will fall into this trap or web... but it is something to 'beware' of:
[smear:#36e619] Beware lest wrath entice you into scoffing, and let not the greatness of the ransom turn you aside. Job 36:18[/smear:#b319e6:0]
Listen to any gamer on you tube ( even the 'Christian ones) and nine times out of ten you are going to hear some swearing, and cursing.
But another 'tricky' spiritual downfall, is that, few video or role playing games or rather........ almost NONE, have ANY moral absolutes...
So killing, stealing, using a spell, lying, taking on the role of an evil character using crystals magic, or anything occult etc. etc. etc. Is not a 'SIN'....
it is just part of a 'GAME"
So that, to some extent, one is playing at doing things, that God hates:
[smear:#f55003] 16 There are six things that the Lord hates, seven that are an abomination to him: 17 haughty eyes, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, 18 a heart that devises wicked plans, feet that make haste to run to evil, 19 a false witness who breathes out lies, and one who sows discord among brothers. Proverbs 6:16-19[/smear:#05f3cf:0]
Winning is paramount in gaming, you do 'whatever' to defeat your opponents
[smear:#8a5ac3] The fear of the Lord is hatred of evil. Pride and arrogance and the way of evil and perverted speech I hate. Proverbs 8:13[/smear:#2a69b0:0]
In role playing games, you often 'memorize' spells (how much scripture is being memorized?) in video games they are usually right there
[smear:#4aa55c]10 There shall not be found among you anyone who burns his son or his daughter as an offering, anyone who practices divination or tells fortunes or interprets omens, or a sorcerer 11 or a charmer or a medium or a necromancer or one who inquires of the dead, 12 for whoever does these things is an abomination to the Lord. And because of these abominations the Lord your God is driving them out before you. 13 You shall be blameless before the Lord your God, 14 for these nations, which you are about to dispossess, listen to fortune-tellers and to diviners. But as for you, the Lord your God has not allowed you to do this Deuteronomy 18:10-14[/smear:#e619e4:0]
But while playing such games, you are immersing, infusing, permeating your mind, in an anti-God realm..... but you are often in, a new age, pagan.occult one....
A world where this is often the viewpoint:
[smear:#58b232]In the pride of his face the wicked does not seek him; all his thoughts are, [/smear:#7919e6:0] “There is no God.”
[smear:#19e639]Psalms 10:4[/smear:#c719e6:0]
The danger is that a gamer will get to the point where he or she is saying to God: you understand I need my fun and well, your Bible is not as exciting.
as these make believe worlds
But not much of this is in their hearts:
[smear:#19ae3d] 24 And those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires. Galatians 5:24[/smear:#a619e6:0]
My grandson said something to this effect yesterday Something like:
the world is in terrible distress and I am playing video games.
not that he quit but I am encouraged and do believe God is working on his heart.
it is not that I think we should never play a game but we need to be aware of the devils traps and webs.... webs are sticky, they are hard to get free of and a metal trap is even harder.
[smear:#f6148e]I set a snare for you and you were taken, O Babylon, and you did not know it; you were found and caught, because you opposed the Lord. Jeremiah 50:24[/smear:#3b36c7:0]
And here is a pray to consider:
[smear:#e6bd19]Keep me from the trap that they have laid for me and from the snares of evildoers! Psalm 141:9[/smear:#7d19e6:0]
Done for today
Well said! And again what you said here: "The longer a person
(especially a child or teen, because their minds are still forming) spends in a 'universe' without God the easier it is for sins to be lessened" is true for people who read secular books, watch TV or movies, etc. .
Just a note, in the little seaside town I live in, we are going to have another march/protest this time for open carry However, it is labor day weekend, and one of the biggest times the tourists flock here Soooo I an wonder if Antifa, SJW, BLM etc. groups will come to protest the march and go to the beach, Kind of like 'killing' 2 birds with one stone'?
And that, started me wondering, yet again, could the devil be engineering chaos,
In order, to eventually create 'his' so called order out of chaos
with what will maybe soon be, the unveiling of the anti-Christ?
It could be yet a few years ahead, and I know, these things have happened throughout history
And yet, the Bible prophecies have never been wrong so far...
We know the Bible talks about the end times being like: the days of Noah:
[smear:#42e619]37 For as were the days of Noah, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. Matthew 24:37[/smear:#5faefa:0]
But I only recently realized not only Noah, but also Lot:
[smear:#8ff933]28 Likewise, just as it was in the days of Lot— they were eating and drinking, buying and selling, planting and building, Luke 17:28[/smear:#4643b1:0]
So today, I would like to look at what was going on in those days and do we see any similarities to our days.
From the start of human history with Adam and Eve 1,600 years or so had passed ( until the days of Noah)
and in that time not only had to world increased greatly in population but even more so, had grown in sin.
In fact in Genesis, we saw the beginning of everything we see the first people the first murder(s) the first of defying God's pattern for marriage and the family etc. etc.
And the Earth was filled with violence:
[smear:#4854ae]11 Now the earth was corrupt in God's sight, and the earth was filled with violence. Genesis 6:11[/smear:#e61959:0]
In some ways , in Noah's time, it was business as usual so that one might not think that God was about to drown every single person except for 8 ( Noah and his family)
[smear:#44c061]26 Just as it was in the days of Noah, so will it be in the days of the Son of Man. 27 They were eating and drinking and marrying and being given in marriage, until the day when Noah entered the ark, and the flood came and destroyed them all. Luke 17:26,27[/smear:#b719e6:0]
So one might wonder: What? why? But remember the violence and the ungodly life styles, were so great that:
[smear:#f6c003] And the Lord regretted that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him to his heart. Genesis 6:6[/smear:#1b03e3:0]
For one thing, I am fairly certain, they did not kill as many unborn, as we today do world wide.
Noah was given 100 years to build the ark and preach, the End of the World...
But like today, people just scoffed,
After all ,the world had been going on the same as it ever had for 1, 600 years, and there never was any of this so-called rain!
God patiently and mercifully waited an extra 100 years while Noah built the ark
[smear:#1a8488]20 because they formerly did not obey, when God's patience waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was being prepared, in which a few, that is, eight persons, were brought safely through water. 1 Peter 3:20[/smear:#f49808:0]
And what people were like then.... I think we can see, they are now:
[smear:#0bf654] 1 But understand this, that in the last days there will come times of difficulty. 2 For people will be lovers of self, lovers of money, proud, arrogant, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, 3 heartless, unappeasable, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not loving good, 4 treacherous, reckless, swollen with conceit, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, 2 Timothy 3:1-4[/smear:#8a19e6:0]
And remember people lived a LOT longer in those days so they had a lot longer to do and perfect, their evil deeds.
But even if you think about just the eating and drinking and marrying and being given in marriage, What do you notice? and what is lacking ?
I notice, it is all about self and no mention at all of God.
So tho, not bad or evil, in, and of, themselves ( eating, drinking etc) it was all about 'self ' pleasures and indulging
Yet Jesus said: [smear:#067502] 22 And he said to his disciples, “Therefore I tell you, do not be anxious about your life, what you will eat, nor about your body, what you will put on. 23 For life is more than food, and the body more than clothing. Luke 12:22,23[/smear:#ae19e6:0]
and in Lot's day there was also this
[smear:#576575]7 just as Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding cities, which likewise indulged in sexual immorality and pursued unnatural desire, serve as an example by undergoing a punishment of eternal fire. Jude 1:7[/smear:#ba5233:0]
And this also:
[smear:#e619b5] 32 Though they know God's righteous decree that those who practice such things deserve to die, they not only do them but give approval to those who practice them. Romans 1:32[/smear:#1982e6:0]
This was how Lot felt:
[smear:#89f72b]7 and if he rescued righteous Lot, greatly distressed by the sensual conduct of the wicked 2 Peter 2:7[/smear:#196de6:0]
But as bad as that is, and was...
What about so called believers, of today's world who have 'itchy' ears?
We cannot expect unbelievers to act differently or not to scoff
[smear:#60c874]3 knowing this first of all, that scoffers will come in the last days with scoffing, following their own sinful desires. 4 They will say, “Where is the promise of his coming? For ever since the fathers fell asleep, all things are continuing as they were from the beginning of creation.” 2 Peter 3,4[/smear:#e619dc:0]
Except instead of saying, all things continue since Creation the unbeliever would say something like the Big bang.
But we need to 'beware' that we do not fall into this group, because the end times are coming and have already started:
[smear:#ae1493]3 For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions, 4 and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander off into myths. 2 Timothy 4:3-4[/smear:#0b52b8:0] Done for today
I have to add to what you said here: For one thing, I am fairly certain,
they did not kill as many unborn, as we today do world wide. That's mainly only true because there wasn't as many people alive at that time as there are today. But for most of the known world there was already such a thing as abortion available. It wasn't legal in most places so often the women died; but it was available. Besides that though, it was legal to leave a newborn infant outside for the wolves or another creature to get if you didn't want the child for some reason. Or you could throw it off a cliff if that was your preference. This was Roman law and everywhere Rome ruled you could find man infants left outside to die. Last but not least, there were also many pagan religions that included child sacrifice and the very best child you could give would be one that was recently born. So you see, other then there not being as many people alive at the time, there was every bit as much murder of the unborn and recently born. We're just now getting to the point where people want to legalize killing the recently born. They were actually ahead of us in that!
Just a few brief notes on a very few things going on in the world today outside of USA Things like the ongoing water turf war between Greece and Turkey also land tussle between China and India both of those might fit into the 'wars and rumors of wars category.
Another news item is that sales of the gun manufacturer Smith and Weston has soared to 140% So much so they have to sped up production.
And then there is this news:
"Nuclear experts predict that Iran is now just 3.5 months away from the “breakout time,” a measurement of how close the country is to having the technology and materials to construct a nuclear weapon. It also now has the fuel to potentially construct two separate bombs. washingtondailyreport.com/iran-caught-stockpiling-enriched-uranium-needed-for-bomb/
Anyway today I am thinking about this verse ( note the 'thief' that Jesus is referring to in this parable is not only human thieves and human shepherds etc but the devil aka.... Satan.
[smear:#3e6aac]10 The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy. John 10:10[/smear:#be4e17:0]
and this verse also:
[smear:#e6193e] 44 You are of your father the devil, and your will is to do your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks out of his own character, for he is a liar and the father of lies. [/smear:#307427:0]
I would say in a way, we all are children of the devil until we are not, there is always the chance to become children of God.
You might wonder why I keep coming back to antifa, SJW, BLM etc. in part, because I live an hour away from Portland, that has had over 100 days of 'peaceful' protests according to the media but that is not what I would call it.
We get a pretty clear command from God about taking something that belongs to someone else
[smear:#f85719]15 “You shall not steal. Exodus 20:15[/smear:#b719e6:0]
I think most people have done that at least once in their life. As a child I stole and eraser out of a store but I felt so guilty I brought it right back.
But Antifa etal now say that they are NOT stealing and looting they are getting long over due reparations!
nypost.com/2020/08/11/black-lives-matter-organizer-calls-chicago-looting-reparation/
If this continues to grow and grow then I am thinking people might want to hold onto their possessions lightly and take this verse to heart:
1[smear:#0cfc61]9 “Do not lay up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy and where thieves break in and steal, Matthew 6:19[/smear:#ae19e6:0]
But remember the first 2 verses Satan is a thief and his children do like he does?
What else does the devil do? He destroys
I am not sure how one peacefully sets fires to buildings and cars and breaks windows etc. etc. But that is 'apparently' what the peaceful protesters do.
And the devil also kills We are starting to see that also. People are justifying why they should kill
But another thing the devil does is to deceive:
[smear:#23be95]9 And the great dragon was thrown down, that ancient serpent, who is called the devil and Satan, t he deceiver of the whole world— he was thrown down to the earth, and his angels were thrown down with him. Revelation 12:9[/smear:#710db6:0]
Done for today
I can vouch that gun and ammunition sales have jumped super high. It's hard to get ammunition now. You used to be able to walk in a gun store and buy whatever kind of ammo you needed, but not now, because they're usually all sold out. So you have to wait for the next shipment to come in and make sure you're one of the first in line to get it then. It's the same with buying a gun - legally buying a gun I mean. Of course criminals can buy a gun or ammo off the street instantly. Crazy how that works huh? The reason for the legal guns and ammo sales being so high is because people are worried about the possibility of civil war, or anarchy, and many simply because of covid want to make sure they can protect their family. When all this stuff about covid came about, my husband began to wear his gun every time he walked outside of our door. He won't let me go anywhere without him being there to protect me either and basically doesn't want me out of his site. (which can get annoying lol).. Like when we had this group of maniacs here in our town supposedly trying to start a "revival" by disobeying all our laws. Bruce locked our front and back door and told me to keep them locked while he was at work. (we never lock our doors!) And told me not to open the door at all unless it was someone I knew. That lasted the whole two weeks they were in our town; their last day here, there was a thunderstorm that knocked their tent down and sent 6 people to the hospital. People were saying it was God commenting on their activity here lol.
Personally, I wish he'd put the gun away, but I know he's doing it because it's his way of protecting me and keeping me safe. So I just keep my mouth shut. But it concerns me because of all the anger that is going around. Again, if someone says something "bad" about Trump then they're going to be called names and be beat up verbally. (probably physically if they were face to face). What's amazing to me is that I've seen a person who is for Trump and adores him but disagreed about one thing he said, and other trump supporters jumped all over her and treated her like cow dung. Every single one of them assumed that she was against Trump and that she didn't and wouldn't vote for him, which was the exact opposite of the truth. In fact, come to think of it, I've seen that happen more then once. Worse of all, these are supposedly Christians!!!! And these "Christians" won't do that if someone says something negative about God, or His Word. They'll be tolerant about that; they're just not tolerant about Trump. hmmm what does that tell us? Regardless of that though, it embarrasses me when I see a Christian calling someone names because they disagree with them. Instead of bringing glory and honor to Jesus, it brings shame to Him. It hurts my heart because I know that when others hear or see it, it makes our Jesus look bad and makes Him look like the rest of the world. I hate that!!!!
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Post by fearnot on Sept 7, 2020 11:44:36 GMT -5
That is a very good point!!! People will defend the President, or Biden, or some other political person tooth and nail.... but if someone swears using God's name, nary a peep!!!
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Post by fearnot on Sept 7, 2020 12:09:54 GMT -5
In the world today, we need to hold onto to things, very very lightly because, someone could steal or we could lose stuff, on our own etc.
So then, there are these Bible verses to consider:
[smear:#fd5622]20 Then Job arose and tore his robe and shaved his head and fell on the ground and worshiped. 21 And he said, “Naked I came from my mother's womb, and naked shall I return. The Lord gave, and the Lord has taken away; blessed be the name of the Lord.” Job 1:20,21[/smear:#1969e6:0]
And what attitude could we cultivate concerning loss of things, or Covid 19?
[smear:#ad3727] 5 You will not fear the terror of the night, nor the arrow that flies by day,
6 nor the pestilence that stalks in darkness, nor the destruction that wastes at noonday.
7 A thousand may fall at your side, ten thousand at your right hand... Psalms 91: 5-7[/smear:#a531a8:0]
And our actions?
[smear:#9917a8]14 Do not enter the path of the wicked, and do not walk in the way of the evil. 15 Avoid it; do not go on it; turn away from it and pass on. 16 For they cannot sleep unless they have done wrong; they are robbed of sleep unless they have made someone stumble. 17 For they eat the bread of wickedness and drink the wine of violence. Proverbs 4:14-17[/smear:#1e31ae:0]
Someone ( I am not sure anyone knows who first said it) once said this it seems like a real possibility when thinking about 'possessions' either wanting more wanting someone to give us some losing them and so on:
"A government big enough to give you everything you want, is big enough to take away everything you have."
In today's consumer priority world Some verses to take to heart:
[smear:#279aaa] 15 And he ( Jesus) said to them, “Take care, and be on your guard against all covetousness, for one's life does not consist in the abundance of his possessions.” Luke 12:15 [/smear:#a619e6:0]
This also:
[smear:#4cbe57]19 “Do not lay up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy and where thieves break in and steal, Matthew 6:19[/smear:#de45d7:0]
Many fear having a loss of their possession or their life But God says:
[smear:#47c15a]36 For what does it profit a man to gain the whole world and forfeit his soul? Mark 8:36[/smear:#cc3dc8:0]
And this verse:
[smear:#f8c807]21 For to me to live is Christ, and to die is gain. Philippians 1:21[/smear:#1928e6:0]
We are living in a time where lawlessness is gaining in popularity For example:
Stealing and looting is becoming a way of life for more and more folks:
However lawlessness is sin
[smear:#08fd2a]4 Everyone who makes a practice of sinning also practices lawlessness; sin is lawlessness. 1 John 3:4[/smear:#fa0bb1:0]
The bible encourages us to be content with less, not more:
[smear:#31f750]8 But if we have food and clothing, with these we will be content. 1 Timothy 6:8[/smear:#f436eb:0]
Done for today
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Post by fearnot on Sept 8, 2020 11:30:11 GMT -5
Last night the wind kicked up with gusts expected to be between 40 mph to 80 mph Nothing to see here folks....this is Oregon West Coast.
And of all the places I have lived Seaside has the best electric grid (or whatever) because tho the electric does go out occasionally, it comes back on faster than any other place I have lived. However we did lose electricity last night, and we are still windy today...so if for some reason, I don't post..... its for that reason.....no electricity.
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Post by fearnot on Sept 8, 2020 11:46:09 GMT -5
I have already mentioned how stealing and looting during 'peaceful' protest has been redefined... and is no longer a 'sin' in the protesters eyes Rather, it is now a good thing because it is:
longer overdue ( in their minds) reparations
I am thinking we are seeing more and more and more of this verse:
[smear:#e61984]Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter! Isaiah 5:20[/smear:#72cd03:0]
And thinking about even the more violent (and even sometimes murderous) protesters another redefining I think it is an old saying, that seems to be resurrected
( I expect we have seen this in the past and I think we will see a big increase in this saying and redefinition, world wide:)
The saying is:
One man's terrorist is another man's Freedom Fighter.
God's view on violence:
[smear:#19e621] 13 And God said to Noah, “I have determined to make an end of all flesh, for the earth is filled with violence through them. Behold, I will destroy them with the earth. Genesis 6:13[/smear:#fbc306:0]
Another example is of changing definitions so that evil is called good is pedophiles
They claim they are:
'born that way'
We hear slogans like: "No one can choose who they love!
And it's just age or generally spanned 'love'
And many states are lowering the age for marriage.
www.indy100.com/article/child-marriage-legal-states-where-us-age-limit-gap-9301731
family.findlaw.com/marriage/state-by-state-marriage-age-of-consent-laws.html ( jus one example California: "The age of consent is eighteen. With parental consent, there are no age limits regarding the minimum age for a couple to marry.
But God says this:
[smear:#10a33f]6 but whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin, it would be better for him to have a great millstone fastened around his neck and to be drowned in the depth of the sea. Matthew 18:6[/smear:#e619cc:0]
and this
[smear:#f4682c]10 “See that you do not despise one of these little ones. For I tell you that in heaven their angels always see the face of my Father who is in heaven. Matthew 18:10[/smear:#1f809d:0]
And speaking of little ones the very littlest babies, in the womb are sometimes relabeled as a 'cancer'
Therefore aborting, is not murder thus a redefining because, a woman can choose to do whatever she wishes with her body... and rid herself of 'cancer'
except...
the baby i s NOT 'her' body that is a separate person's body
[smear:#be2596]14 seek good, and not evil, that you may live; and so the Lord, the God of hosts, will be with you, as you have said. 15 Hate evil, and love good, Amos 5:14,15[/smear:#f44606:0]
Done for today
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Post by Cindy on Sept 9, 2020 6:56:21 GMT -5
That is a very good point!!! People will defend the President, or Biden, or some other political person tooth and nail.... but if someone swears using God's name, nary a peep!!!
In the world today, we need to hold onto to things, very very lightly because, someone could steal or we could lose stuff, on our own etc.
So then, there are these Bible verses to consider:
[smear:#fd5622]20 Then Job arose and tore his robe and shaved his head and fell on the ground and worshiped. 21 And he said, “Naked I came from my mother's womb, and naked shall I return. The Lord gave, and the Lord has taken away; blessed be the name of the Lord.” Job 1:20,21[/smear:#1969e6:0]
And what attitude could we cultivate concerning loss of things, or Covid 19?
[smear:#ad3727] 5 You will not fear the terror of the night, nor the arrow that flies by day,
6 nor the pestilence that stalks in darkness, nor the destruction that wastes at noonday.
7 A thousand may fall at your side, ten thousand at your right hand... Psalms 91: 5-7[/smear:#a531a8:0]
And our actions?
[smear:#9917a8]14 Do not enter the path of the wicked, and do not walk in the way of the evil. 15 Avoid it; do not go on it; turn away from it and pass on. 16 For they cannot sleep unless they have done wrong; they are robbed of sleep unless they have made someone stumble. 17 For they eat the bread of wickedness and drink the wine of violence. Proverbs 4:14-17[/smear:#1e31ae:0]
Someone ( I am not sure anyone knows who first said it) once said this it seems like a real possibility when thinking about 'possessions' either wanting more wanting someone to give us some losing them and so on:
"A government big enough to give you everything you want, is big enough to take away everything you have."
In today's consumer priority world Some verses to take to heart:
[smear:#279aaa] 15 And he ( Jesus) said to them, “Take care, and be on your guard against all covetousness, for one's life does not consist in the abundance of his possessions.” Luke 12:15 [/smear:#a619e6:0]
This also:
[smear:#4cbe57]19 “Do not lay up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy and where thieves break in and steal, Matthew 6:19[/smear:#de45d7:0]
Many fear having a loss of their possession or their life But God says:
[smear:#47c15a]36 For what does it profit a man to gain the whole world and forfeit his soul? Mark 8:36[/smear:#cc3dc8:0]
And this verse:
[smear:#f8c807]21 For to me to live is Christ, and to die is gain. Philippians 1:21[/smear:#1928e6:0]
We are living in a time where lawlessness is gaining in popularity For example:
Stealing and looting is becoming a way of life for more and more folks:
However lawlessness is sin
[smear:#08fd2a]4 Everyone who makes a practice of sinning also practices lawlessness; sin is lawlessness. 1 John 3:4[/smear:#fa0bb1:0]
The bible encourages us to be content with less, not more:
[smear:#31f750]8 But if we have food and clothing, with these we will be content. 1 Timothy 6:8[/smear:#f436eb:0]
Done for today
Last night the wind kicked up with gusts expected to be between 40 mph to 80 mph Nothing to see here folks....this is Oregon West Coast.
And of all the places I have lived Seaside has the best electric grid (or whatever) because tho the electric does go out occasionally, it comes back on faster than any other place I have lived. However we did lose electricity last night, and we are still windy today...so if for some reason, I don't post..... its for that reason.....no electricity. I'm glad you didn't lose your electricity, or at least not for long if you did at all...
I have already mentioned how stealing and looting during 'peaceful' protest has been redefined... and is no longer a 'sin' in the protesters eyes Rather, it is now a good thing because it is:
longer overdue ( in their minds) reparations
I am thinking we are seeing more and more and more of this verse:
[smear:#e61984]Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter! Isaiah 5:20[/smear:#72cd03:0]
And thinking about even the more violent (and even sometimes murderous) protesters another redefining I think it is an old saying, that seems to be resurrected
( I expect we have seen this in the past and I think we will see a big increase in this saying and redefinition, world wide:)
The saying is:
One man's terrorist is another man's Freedom Fighter.
God's view on violence:
[smear:#19e621] 13 And God said to Noah, “I have determined to make an end of all flesh, for the earth is filled with violence through them. Behold, I will destroy them with the earth. Genesis 6:13[/smear:#fbc306:0]
Another example is of changing definitions so that evil is called good is pedophiles
They claim they are:
'born that way'
We hear slogans like: "No one can choose who they love!
And it's just age or generally spanned 'love'
And many states are lowering the age for marriage.
www.indy100.com/article/child-marriage-legal-states-where-us-age-limit-gap-9301731
family.findlaw.com/marriage/state-by-state-marriage-age-of-consent-laws.html ( jus one example California: "The age of consent is eighteen. With parental consent, there are no age limits regarding the minimum age for a couple to marry.
But God says this:
[smear:#10a33f]6 but whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin, it would be better for him to have a great millstone fastened around his neck and to be drowned in the depth of the sea. Matthew 18:6[/smear:#e619cc:0]
and this
[smear:#f4682c]10 “See that you do not despise one of these little ones. For I tell you that in heaven their angels always see the face of my Father who is in heaven. Matthew 18:10[/smear:#1f809d:0]
And speaking of little ones the very littlest babies, in the womb are sometimes relabeled as a 'cancer'
Therefore aborting, is not murder thus a redefining because, a woman can choose to do whatever she wishes with her body... and rid herself of 'cancer'
except...
the baby i s NOT 'her' body that is a separate person's body
[smear:#be2596]14 seek good, and not evil, that you may live; and so the Lord, the God of hosts, will be with you, as you have said. 15 Hate evil, and love good, Amos 5:14,15[/smear:#f44606:0]
Done for today
Well said!
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Post by fearnot on Sept 9, 2020 11:47:14 GMT -5
So today will be a bit random But to start:
[smear:#a419e6]5 For many will come in my name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and they will lead many astray.
6 And you will hear of wars and rumors of wars. See that you are not alarmed, for this must take place, but the end is not yet. 7 For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom, and there will be famines and earthquakes in various places. Matthew 24:5-7 [/smear:#63f803:0]
About the folks claiming to be Jesus.... in the news today was this:
Kanye West and Joel Osteen pretend to walk on water with photos and a video ( which I did not watch)
www.nowtheendbegins.com/kanye-west-joel-osteen-hold-sunday-service-atlanta-where-they-mock-jesus-by-pretending-to-walk-on-water/
[smear:#19e67f]1 But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, .... 2 Peter 2:1[/smear:#f51cf7:0]
Also: [smear:#57a576] 18 Children, it is the last hour, and as you have heard that antichrist is coming, so now many antichrists have come. Therefore we know that it is the last hour. 1 John 2:18[/smear:#8a4af8:0]
But in addition to that.... why read your Bible for encouragement ?
When for a mere $40 you can have this Joel Osteen's inspirational cube:
www.inspirationcube.com/?mid=11525152
For wars and rumors of wars there is this: Erdogan warns Greece and France of war over disputed Mediterranean territory.
www.israel365news.com/158173/erdogan-warns-greece-france-of-war-bring-it-on/
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8701207/Turkish-President-Recep-Erdogan-warns-Greece-enter-talks-disputed-Mediterranean-territory.html
and this:
India test fires a next generation hypersonic weapons as boarder tensions with China continue to ramp up.
India Test Fires 'NextGen Hypersonic Weapon' As Border Tensions With China Surge harbingersdaily.com/india-tests-nextgen-hypersonic-weapon/
And then for famines in the world today ,
Here is just one: in South Africa where 7 million people in the southern region at risk of famine
and also:
"The battle is ongoing for farmers in East Africa, the Middle East and southwest Asia. They have watched with horror as titanic swarms of desert locust have blackened their fields and skies.":
www.rfi.fr/en/international/20200907-south-africa-fights-against-locust-invasion-millions-pushed-to-the-brink
Dying of starvation would not be easy!!!!!
But I don't (and would NOT need) Joel Osteen's inspirational cube for encouragement...
Rather:
[smear:#f6ae07] 35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? Shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or danger, or sword? Romans 8:35[/smear:#9a19e6:0]
And earthquakes so far for Sept.
Summary: 1 quake 7.0+, 9 quakes 6.0+, 50 quakes 5.0+, 268 quakes 4.0+, 886 quakes 3.0+, 1471 quakes 2.0+
(2685 total) for the first week of Sept.
www.volcanodiscovery.com/earthquakes/monthly/news/109713/World-Earthquake-Report-for-September-2020.html
And in California Governor Newson declares state of emergency because of wildfires where over 2 million plus acres have burned so far.
"This wildfire year is the worst in California’s history in terms of acres burned. The state broke its record for land scorched statewide Sunday, with 2.09 million acres burned, Cal Fire Capt. Richard Cordova told CNN.
“This is crazy. We haven’t even got into the October and November fire season and we’ve broken the all-time record,” Cordova said."
ktvz.com/news/national-world/2020/09/07/california-declares-state-of-emergency-as-it-battles-multiple-wildfires/
[smear:#96d807] 29 for our God is a consuming fire. Hebrews 12:29[/smear:#e61959:0]
[smear:#f7f205]24 Then the Lord rained on Sodom and Gomorrah sulfur and fire from the Lord out of heaven. Genesis 19:24[/smear:#e6193c:0]
[smear:#b419e6]14 As fire consumes the forest, as the flame sets the mountains ablaze, Psalm 83:14[/smear:#e61959:0]
[smear:#79c96a]10 Even now the axe is laid to the root of the trees. Every tree therefore that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Matthew 3:10[/smear:#e6197a:0]
Is God trying to speak to people by the symbolism of fire I do not know but as you can see God's word has a lot of fire references I have only listed a very few: [smear:#19e6d1] 6 If anyone does not abide in me he is thrown away like a branch and withers; and the branches are gathered, thrown into the fire, and burned. John 15:6 [/smear:#fa0a63:0]
[smear:#0d27f3]15 If anyone's work is burned up, he will suffer loss, though he himself will be saved, but only as through fire. 1 Corinthians 3:15[/smear:#fb2b5b:0]
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Post by fearnot on Sept 10, 2020 10:08:28 GMT -5
There is a lot of confusion in today's world.... What is the truth about the virus? What is the truth about the protests/riots? What is the truth about the up coming election? What is the truth about Police? What is the truth about the weather? Should churches hold services? Is our world today, prophecy being fulfilled? And on it goes....
[smear:#09a390]32 Now some cried out one thing, some another, for the assembly was in confusion, and most of them did not know why they had come together. Acts 19:32 [/smear:#f12ed8:0]
But one thing that is not in any kind of confusion:
[smear:#7319e6]33 For God is not a God of confusion but of peace.... 1 Corinthians 14:33[/smear:#69e619:0]
And there is this saying which is not confusing and true:
Sin will take you further than you ever wanted to stray! Cost you more than you ever wanted to pay! and keep you longer than you ever thought you would stay!
Jesus said this about sin:
[smear:#509ef6] 34 Jesus answered them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who practices sin is a slave to sin. John 8:34[/smear:#e6199e:0]
Can all this confusion in the world today, have anything positive? Can it be a wake up call? Could it be a time to be thinking less of entertainment and better toys, homes, cars etc. and get more serious about the afterlife and where we are going to spend it?
[smear:#19e642] 16 “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. John 3:16 [/smear:#e619c8:0]
[smear:#630eb3]14 For here we have no lasting city, but we seek the city that is to come. Hebrews 13:14[/smear:#e61961:0]
And something to think about as we get caught up in acquiring worldly items:
[smear:#062cc2] for we brought nothing into the world, and we cannot take anything out of the world. 1 Timothy 6:7[/smear:#a22ca6:0]
Do we 'LOVE" our possessions?
[smear:#277480]15 Do not love the world or the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him. 1 John 2:15[/smear:#7cc903:0]
In addition, adding to confusion is that so many people are
'thinking' with their 'feelings'
Especially in our youth oriented world feelings, generate wild and often uncontrolled passions
not well thought out and often not peaceful behaviors!
I don't think we are hearing this much in today's world
[smear:#f80ce6] 1 Children, obey your parents in the Lord, for this is right. 2 “Honor your father and mother” (this is the first commandment with a promise), 3 “that it may go well with you and that you may live long in the land.” Ephesians 6:1-3[/smear:#1930e6:0]
So sadly it's more of this: [smear:#901260]30 slanderers, haters of God, insolent, haughty, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents,
Romans 1:30[/smear:#08912d:0]
Thus, they are tragically extremely confused and spiritually lost. But not just the young So many in their middle age and even many elderly.
I watched a few minutes of the protests/riots in Portland just an hour away and I noticed the youth had a very very very limited vocabulary it was pretty much filled with just a few words the F word, and cussing using God's name and/or Jesus name ( I don't think they know
That God's last name is not Damn
Words are so important ,, to help when a person is confused:
God says in Romans:
[smear:#328f78]1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. John 1:1[/smear:#813aaf:0]
I personally think it would help ever person To be in the Word God's word, the Bible to help with sorting out the confusion of today.
Done for today
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Post by Cindy on Sept 10, 2020 10:46:31 GMT -5
Sorry I'm late today but I spent some time writing this so I could hopefully get it off my chest and hopefully the Lord will guide those who need it here to read it. If I can reach even one person and they repent, it will be worth it! fresh-hope.com/thread/5650/choice-president-idol
So today will be a bit random But to start:
[smear:#a419e6]5 For many will come in my name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and they will lead many astray.
6 And you will hear of wars and rumors of wars. See that you are not alarmed, for this must take place, but the end is not yet. 7 For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom, and there will be famines and earthquakes in various places. Matthew 24:5-7 [/smear:#63f803:0]
About the folks claiming to be Jesus.... in the news today was this:
Kanye West and Joel Osteen pretend to walk on water with photos and a video ( which I did not watch)
www.nowtheendbegins.com/kanye-west-joel-osteen-hold-sunday-service-atlanta-where-they-mock-jesus-by-pretending-to-walk-on-water/
[smear:#19e67f]1 But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, .... 2 Peter 2:1[/smear:#f51cf7:0]
Also: [smear:#57a576] 18 Children, it is the last hour, and as you have heard that antichrist is coming, so now many antichrists have come. Therefore we know that it is the last hour. 1 John 2:18[/smear:#8a4af8:0]
But in addition to that.... why read your Bible for encouragement ?
When for a mere $40 you can have this Joel Osteen's inspirational cube:
www.inspirationcube.com/?mid=11525152
For wars and rumors of wars there is this: Erdogan warns Greece and France of war over disputed Mediterranean territory.
www.israel365news.com/158173/erdogan-warns-greece-france-of-war-bring-it-on/
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8701207/Turkish-President-Recep-Erdogan-warns-Greece-enter-talks-disputed-Mediterranean-territory.html
and this:
India test fires a next generation hypersonic weapons as boarder tensions with China continue to ramp up.
India Test Fires 'NextGen Hypersonic Weapon' As Border Tensions With China Surge harbingersdaily.com/india-tests-nextgen-hypersonic-weapon/
And then for famines in the world today ,
Here is just one: in South Africa where 7 million people in the southern region at risk of famine
and also:
"The battle is ongoing for farmers in East Africa, the Middle East and southwest Asia. They have watched with horror as titanic swarms of desert locust have blackened their fields and skies.":
www.rfi.fr/en/international/20200907-south-africa-fights-against-locust-invasion-millions-pushed-to-the-brink
Dying of starvation would not be easy!!!!!
But I don't (and would NOT need) Joel Osteen's inspirational cube for encouragement...
Rather:
[smear:#f6ae07] 35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? Shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or danger, or sword? Romans 8:35[/smear:#9a19e6:0]
And earthquakes so far for Sept.
Summary: 1 quake 7.0+, 9 quakes 6.0+, 50 quakes 5.0+, 268 quakes 4.0+, 886 quakes 3.0+, 1471 quakes 2.0+
(2685 total) for the first week of Sept.
www.volcanodiscovery.com/earthquakes/monthly/news/109713/World-Earthquake-Report-for-September-2020.html
And in California Governor Newson declares state of emergency because of wildfires where over 2 million plus acres have burned so far.
"This wildfire year is the worst in California’s history in terms of acres burned. The state broke its record for land scorched statewide Sunday, with 2.09 million acres burned, Cal Fire Capt. Richard Cordova told CNN.
“This is crazy. We haven’t even got into the October and November fire season and we’ve broken the all-time record,” Cordova said."
ktvz.com/news/national-world/2020/09/07/california-declares-state-of-emergency-as-it-battles-multiple-wildfires/
[smear:#96d807] 29 for our God is a consuming fire. Hebrews 12:29[/smear:#e61959:0]
[smear:#f7f205]24 Then the Lord rained on Sodom and Gomorrah sulfur and fire from the Lord out of heaven. Genesis 19:24[/smear:#e6193c:0]
[smear:#b419e6]14 As fire consumes the forest, as the flame sets the mountains ablaze, Psalm 83:14[/smear:#e61959:0]
[smear:#79c96a]10 Even now the axe is laid to the root of the trees. Every tree therefore that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Matthew 3:10[/smear:#e6197a:0]
Is God trying to speak to people by the symbolism of fire I do not know but as you can see God's word has a lot of fire references I have only listed a very few: [smear:#19e6d1] 6 If anyone does not abide in me he is thrown away like a branch and withers; and the branches are gathered, thrown into the fire, and burned. John 15:6 [/smear:#fa0a63:0]
[smear:#0d27f3]15 If anyone's work is burned up, he will suffer loss, though he himself will be saved, but only as through fire. 1 Corinthians 3:15[/smear:#fb2b5b:0]
Done for today
Well said!
There is a lot of confusion in today's world.... What is the truth about the virus? What is the truth about the protests/riots? What is the truth about the up coming election? What is the truth about Police? What is the truth about the weather? Should churches hold services? Is our world today, prophecy being fulfilled? And on it goes....
[smear:#09a390]32 Now some cried out one thing, some another, for the assembly was in confusion, and most of them did not know why they had come together. Acts 19:32 [/smear:#f12ed8:0]
But one thing that is not in any kind of confusion:
[smear:#7319e6]33 For God is not a God of confusion but of peace.... 1 Corinthians 14:33[/smear:#69e619:0]
And there is this saying which is not confusing and true:
Sin will take you further than you ever wanted to stray! Cost you more than you ever wanted to pay! and keep you longer than you ever thought you would stay!
Jesus said this about sin:
[smear:#509ef6] 34 Jesus answered them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who practices sin is a slave to sin. John 8:34[/smear:#e6199e:0]
Can all this confusion in the world today, have anything positive? Can it be a wake up call? Could it be a time to be thinking less of entertainment and better toys, homes, cars etc. and get more serious about the afterlife and where we are going to spend it? [smear:#19e642]
16 “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. John 3:16[/smear:#e619c8:0]
[smear:#630eb3]14 For here we have no lasting city, but we seek the city that is to come. Hebrews 13:14[/smear:#e61961:0]
ooops, sorry, I see now you're not done yet. It looks like it's going to be good though! Looking forward to reading the rest tomorrow! I have to go and pay bills for now. Love you Barbara! Oh I want to thank you and Leonard for your donation too! Would you thank him for me?
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Post by fearnot on Sept 10, 2020 11:09:49 GMT -5
Of course I will thank him for you and.... we also go read what you wrote!
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Post by Cindy on Sept 11, 2020 9:53:18 GMT -5
There is a lot of confusion in today's world.... What is the truth about the virus? What is the truth about the protests/riots? What is the truth about the up coming election? What is the truth about Police? What is the truth about the weather? Should churches hold services? Is our world today, prophecy being fulfilled? And on it goes....
[smear:#09a390]32 Now some cried out one thing, some another, for the assembly was in confusion, and most of them did not know why they had come together. Acts 19:32 [/smear:#f12ed8:0]
But one thing that is not in any kind of confusion:
[smear:#7319e6]33 For God is not a God of confusion but of peace.... 1 Corinthians 14:33[/smear:#69e619:0]
And there is this saying which is not confusing and true:
Sin will take you further than you ever wanted to stray! Cost you more than you ever wanted to pay! and keep you longer than you ever thought you would stay!
Jesus said this about sin:
[smear:#509ef6] 34 Jesus answered them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who practices sin is a slave to sin. John 8:34[/smear:#e6199e:0]
Can all this confusion in the world today, have anything positive? Can it be a wake up call? Could it be a time to be thinking less of entertainment and better toys, homes, cars etc. and get more serious about the afterlife and where we are going to spend it?
[smear:#19e642] 16 “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. John 3:16 [/smear:#e619c8:0]
[smear:#630eb3]14 For here we have no lasting city, but we seek the city that is to come. Hebrews 13:14[/smear:#e61961:0]
And something to think about as we get caught up in acquiring worldly items:
[smear:#062cc2] for we brought nothing into the world, and we cannot take anything out of the world. 1 Timothy 6:7[/smear:#a22ca6:0]
Do we 'LOVE" our possessions?
[smear:#277480]15 Do not love the world or the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him. 1 John 2:15[/smear:#7cc903:0]
In addition, adding to confusion is that so many people are
'thinking' with their 'feelings'
Especially in our youth oriented world feelings, generate wild and often uncontrolled passions
not well thought out and often not peaceful behaviors!
I don't think we are hearing this much in today's world
[smear:#f80ce6] 1 Children, obey your parents in the Lord, for this is right. 2 “Honor your father and mother” (this is the first commandment with a promise), 3 “that it may go well with you and that you may live long in the land.” Ephesians 6:1-3[/smear:#1930e6:0]
So sadly it's more of this: [smear:#901260]30 slanderers, haters of God, insolent, haughty, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents,
Romans 1:30[/smear:#08912d:0]
Thus, they are tragically extremely confused and spiritually lost. But not just the young So many in their middle age and even many elderly.
I watched a few minutes of the protests/riots in Portland just an hour away and I noticed the youth had a very very very limited vocabulary it was pretty much filled with just a few words the F word, and cussing using God's name and/or Jesus name ( I don't think they know
That God's last name is not Damn
Words are so important ,, to help when a person is confused:
God says in Romans:
[smear:#328f78]1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. John 1:1[/smear:#813aaf:0]
I personally think it would help ever person To be in the Word God's word, the Bible to help with sorting out the confusion of today.
Done for today
I don't know if the confusion is helpful to anyone who's actually feeling confused, but it may be a wake up call for those who are just noticing that there's a lot of confusion in the world today. So much confusion that people have forgotten how to tell what their gender is; and that's something most two year olds used to be able to know! I don't remember if I already told you about this or not....but I'll take a chance and tell it now anyway. I'd been praying for my neighbors and asking the Lord to give me an opportunity to talk to them about Him as I really would like to see them saved. I asked Him one day recently to give me His Words to speak if they came outside, and to give them a soft heart and open mind to hear them. I was sitting in my garden weeding and praying when my neighbors adult son got home. He came over to talk to me! We must have been talking for a half hour when his Mom came outside so she could chat with me too. I was so excited! We began talking about what the world is like now and it became evident that Mike, her son, knows God's Word well and knows the catholic church does't teach the truth (I knew they used to be catholic). It sounded like he's been trying to teach his Mom about all that he's learned. Well before I could process that, Mike is telling his Mom that she should get together with me and have a Bible Study! And she's agreeing!!! I think I would have fainted then if I knew how lol!
The reason I bring this up now is because the talk that preceded this was about how people were so confused and so angry these days! That's what helped them know that God was up to something. Pretty cool huh? Of course I will thank him for you and.... we also go read what you wrote! Thanks hon! Sometimes I think you guys are the only ones who do. But that's ok. I'll keep doing whatever the Lord says anyway.
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Post by fearnot on Sept 11, 2020 11:40:53 GMT -5
I don't think you meant this to be actually funny but I couldn't help but laugh!!!!!
When you wrote:
"So much confusion that people have forgotten how to tell what their gender is; and that's something most two year olds used to be able to know!"
It is very very sad but true, but the way you worded it.... and I 'needed' a good laugh!
I seriously wonder, do the people who think there are now a 100 plus genders.... Is that what they see being born?
Are they tripping? Having hallucinations?
When they see a brand new baby do they instead see a pea in a pod?
Really, what are they actually talking about?
Is it, I can create my own world, kind of like affirmations and the like?
So if I say, I am a stone, or a tree, or a banana, or a (fill in the blank)..... then that is what I am?
And more than that, they can now force you to also call them by their disillusions
So if they say a blazing fire, is water, and we all must walk into to it to cool off we have to go along The crazies from the nuthouse are now in control!
Please Lord have mercy!
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Post by fearnot on Sept 11, 2020 11:51:58 GMT -5
Back to confusion, the devil ( Satan, Beelzebub) is the author of confusion:
[smear:#9c05f9]9 And the great dragon was thrown down, that ancient serpent, who is called the devil and Satan, the deceiver of the whole world Revelation 12:9 [/smear:#107599:0] God is not:
[smear:#73aa20]33 For God is not a God of confusion but of peace. 1 Corinthians 14:33[/smear:#6319b0:0]
However, there is coming a time when God will let the people have their way and believe the lie I think we are seeing glimpses of that even now.
[smear:#1a75a0]11 Therefore God sends them a strong delusion, so that they may believe what is false,[/smear:#e61930:0]
Because God has given them up....
[smear:#469a4e]24 Therefore God gave them up in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, to the dishonoring of their bodies among themselves,
25 because they exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever! Amen. Romans 1:24,25[/smear:#e65819:0]
The thing about confused people, they are like the saying:
that hurting people hurt.....people
So confused people, spread confusion and deception to others.
We know that the devil is the author of confusion, deception and is the Father of lies.
[smear:#057228]44 You are of your father the devil, and your will is to do your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks out of his own character, for he is a liar and the father of lies.
John 8:44[/smear:#efc306:0]
Not only that , but the devil also comes to : steal, kill and destroy....
The thief Jesus is referring to in this verse, is Satan the devil
[smear:#f13a37]10 The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy.
I came that they may have life and have it abundantly. John 10:10[/smear:#1d4bf5:0]
So Satan deceives, confuses, and lies... which leads people in their confusion... to divide on what is true, and that can lead to great anger... division, revenge,destruction, and eventually to killing.
Do we see any of this in the World today?
And tho this is talking about qualifications for church leaders the 'snare of the devil ', can catch anyone especially those, not even aware there is a spiritual battle going on.
[smear:#ff5e36]6 He must not be a recent convert, or he may become puffed up with conceit and fall into the condemnation of the devil. 7 Moreover, he must be well thought of by outsiders, so that he may not fall into disgrace, into a snare of the devil. 1 Timothy 3:6,7[/smear:#4ab69d:0]
Many people caught up in the riots are fighting a 'battle' but they are fighting against what they see as 'hate'....
with hate
They are not showing any aspects of love of mercy to those they deem 'evil' fascists, hate-filled, etc.
This verse is not their creed:
[smear:#47b7f7]14 For the whole law is fulfilled in one word: “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” Galatians 5:14[/smear:#3f9e40:0]
Rather their marching orders from the devil are: to steal, destroy, promote lawlessness, and even kill.
The results are this:
[smear:#e61942]12 And because lawlessness will be increased, the love of many will grow cold. Matthew 24:12[/smear:#85be1a:0]
Not even knowing, they have been deceived and confused by: deceiving spirits/demons,
But not only the unbeliever even those who were once 'attendees' of church, will also fall.
[smear:#46ee6e]4 Now the Spirit expressly says that in later times some will depart from the faith by devoting themselves to deceitful spirits and teachings of demons, 1 Timothy 4:1[/smear:#97243a:0]
Which brings me to this part of BLM that I did not know.
I was aware that this person said they were a trained Marxist but I did not know that she is into a new age spiritual confusion of a type of 'channeling' or as this woman says: "a West African traditions that center on remembering ancestors".
I was not aware that this was a part of BLM
This:
Black Lives Matter is ‘a spiritual movement,’ says co-founder Patrisse Cullors
"Abdullah and Cullors touched on the practice of calling out the names of the victims that they advocate for in protests and demonstrations.
It's kind of a way to invoke their spirits, Abdullah said.
Uplifting the names of victims goes beyond creating hashtags, Cullors said.
“It is literally almost resurrecting a spirit so they can work through us to get the work that we need to get done,” she said".
religionnews.com/2020/06/15/why-black-lives-matter-is-a-spiritual-movement-says-blm-co-founder-patrisse-cullors/
Well to me that is down right spiritually scary because Demons can pretend to be your loved dead ones and they can also possess people that allow them in.
Both these ladies ( and any others they are teaching this to) They all need prayers because, I think they has been deceived.
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Post by fearnot on Sept 12, 2020 12:00:02 GMT -5
Again ,on the issue of Satan being the author of confusion, deception, and lies and coming to steal, kill and destroy
We must remember the devil hates humans, and started his plan to eliminate us right from the start, with Adam and Eve in the garden. He use lies and half lies, cunning, propaganda, slick sales tricks, questioning what God said to plant seeds of doubt etc.
[smear:#1cd503] ....he said to the woman, “Did God actually say, ‘You shall not eat of any tree in the garden’?”
2 And the woman said to the serpent, “We may eat of the fruit of the trees in the garden, 3 but God said, ‘You shall not eat of the fruit of the tree that is in the midst of the garden, neither shall you touch it, lest you die.’”
4 But the serpent said to the woman, “You will not surely die.
5 For God knows that when you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and EVIL.” Genesis 3:1-5[/smear:#ca0366:0]
Satan knew, they would surely die, and he was glad and did whatever cunning it took to make it happen.
Today the education system has been subtly influenced by many theories that promote hate: Things like:
white privilege, toxic maleness, systemic racism, Identity politics, critical race theory Marxism, socialism etc.
Just briefly, why would the devil support the idea of 'white privilege' and 'systemic racism' today?
I think Satan is an 'equal opportunity hater' of humans.
There is no question that slavery in our country in the past or anywhere in the world was terrible but all people have been slaves at one time or another.
I think the Jews may have been in slavery the longest 400 years in Egypt.
But God does NOT see some people, as better than other peoples.
[smear:#08bccc] "28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is no male and female,
for you are all one in Christ Jesus. Galatians 3:28[/smear:#e64c19:0]
And God told the Jews, He did not choose them because they were better or more numerous
[smear:#e6b519]7 It was not because you were more in number than any other people that the Lord set his love on you and chose you, for you were the fewest of all peoples,... Deuteronomy 7:7[/smear:#0a77f3:0]
But today, white children are taught , that they seem to all have been given a special leg up economicall, y just because they are white....
However, that is NOT 100% true there are many Caucasians that are in major poverty and there are many black millionaires
Also Caucasian children are told they are oppressors and unfairly advantaged people.
Thus, they are expected to “confirm their white privilege'.
To me this is reverse racism, and perpetrating racism.
In the Bible, it is clear we all came from Adam and Eve We may have more or less melanin, straight or curly hair but we are 'one blood' and brothers and sisters.... in Jesus
But people without God in their lives always do what they 'think' is best... and they always end up hurting others in the end.
[smear:#0c7af7]6 In those days there was no king in Israel. Everyone did what was right in his own eyes. Judges 17:6[/smear:#e61944:0]
Of course, 'the King', the real king is:
The king of kings and Lord of Lords is Jesus.
[smear:#19e629] 14 to keep the commandment unstained and free from reproach until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ, 15 which he will display at the proper time— he who is the blessed and only Sovereign, the King of kings and Lord of lords, 1 Timothy 6:14,15[/smear:#f84777:0] Done for Today
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Post by fearnot on Sept 13, 2020 9:59:33 GMT -5
In the world in the past, and also today, Darkness will use any means or every method, to try and eradicate God's light.
I am thinking about how even now , after more than 6 months in many places, in the United States of America, the governmental authorities are still insisting people cannot go to church.
And yes, I realize that a physical building is not necessarily 'church'....
However, a church building, is helpful for God's people to meet and encourage one another, to share the Lord's supper, be able to hear the Word of God etc.
But especially, right now, when people are so afraid of death...
( yet, most people know, that they will die sooner, or later)
People ( some of the already saved, but especially the unsaved),
need to be able to have peace, for the coming day, when they will die.
[smear:#aa3721]you will not fear the terror of the night, nor the arrow that flies by day, 6 nor the pestilence that stalks in darkness, nor the destruction that wastes at noonday. Psalm 91:5-7[/smear:#5ebe20:0]
They need to hear from their Creator God and from God's Word the Bible who says:
[smear:#9619e6] 2 I will say to the Lord, “My refuge and my fortress, my God, in whom I trust.”
3 For he will deliver you from the snare of the fowler and from the deadly pestilence. Psalm 91:2,3[/smear:#fe5a07:0]
People fear death, and there are all sorts of ways people might die,
but their main concern is where will they go after death? Are they forgiven, and will they be with God for all eternity?
That, should be the 'main fear' that needs to be taken care of:
[smear:#2d19e6] 37 “If there is famine in the land, if there is pestilence or blight or mildew or locust or caterpillar, if their enemy besieges them in the land at their gates, whatever plague, whatever sickness there is,
38 whatever prayer, whatever plea is made by any man or by all your people Israel, each knowing the affliction of his own heart and stretching out his hands toward this house,
39 then hear in heaven your dwelling place and forgive and act and render to each whose heart you know, according to all his ways (for you, you only, know the hearts of all the children of mankind),
40 that they may fear you all the days that they live in the land that you gave to our fathers. 1 Kings 8:37-40[/smear:#e65019:0]
Sometimes unbelievers either mock, or get upset, when they read or hear people should 'fear' God....
Even more so, when Christians claim God is 'love'!
[smear:#37f607]8 Anyone who does not love does not know God, because God is love. 1 John 4:8[/smear:#c719e6:0]
and isn't that what we all need, 'love' when 'fearing' a virus?
First of all, one way Christian's 'fear' the Lord God, is to acknowledge He is the Creator.
And to 'respect' Him.
But God is not ONLY a God of 'love' (which is is first and foremost, character trait of God)
He is also, a God of justice.... and will send a person to either Heaven or Hell.... after death.
[smear:#f50a5e]30...“The Lord will judge his people.” 31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God. Hebrews 10:30,31[/smear:#1990e6:0]
Therefore, people are focusing on the wrong thing with their 'fear'
Yes, one needs to be careful with a virus... Notwithstanding, they cannot make that the 'main' thing! God, must always have priority in their life.... And also when fearful of death
At first, when this virus first came on the scene Pastors complied and did not have services in church building, but only, online.
Nevertheless, now that close to 10 months and this virus is turning out to be a little worse than the flu....
And we do not shut down the most important absolute Truth and comfort, peace, and joyful place Church when flu season hits Tho we are careful not to come if we are sick
I think we need to be aware people have been dying from the beginning and we need to have God's Word ( the Bible) fellowship with other believers peace of God and believers have to put God first
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Post by Cindy on Sept 14, 2020 11:35:25 GMT -5
I don't think you meant this to be actually funny but I couldn't help but laugh!!!!!
When you wrote:
"So much confusion that people have forgotten how to tell what their gender is; and that's something most two year olds used to be able to know!"
It is very very sad but true, but the way you worded it.... and I 'needed' a good laugh!
I seriously wonder, do the people who think there are now a 100 plus genders.... Is that what they see being born?
Are they tripping? Having hallucinations?
When they see a brand new baby do they instead see a pea in a pod?
Really, what are they actually talking about?
Is it, I can create my own world, kind of like affirmations and the like?
So if I say, I am a stone, or a tree, or a banana, or a (fill in the blank)..... then that is what I am?
And more than that, they can now force you to also call them by their disillusions
So if they say a blazing fire, is water, and we all must walk into to it to cool off we have to go along The crazies from the nuthouse are now in control!
Please Lord have mercy!
yeah, I meant for it to be ironically funny. Mainly because it's such a simple thing to be able to know. You just have to look down and check your private area. If you have something hanging down and it's what you urinate out of, then you're definitely a boy; if you don't see anything like that, then you're a girl. Simple! That anyone at all could be confused about it is shocking and idiotic as well. The more noise they make about it the more they're showing the world what a fool looks like.
No, they can't force you to accept or call them by their delusions. People just say that as an excuse and they really need to think it through. Let me rephrase that though... they can't force you to do that unless they are holding a gun to your head, and even then they still can't really force you to go along with them, because you can still choose to stand strong on your belief, and let them shoot you or whatever they threaten to do. For most people the threat is that they might lose their job, or even that they definitely will lose their job. If we sit and actually think about it though, wouldn't losing a job be a very small price to pay for standing up for what the Lord says is true? (Especially when we consider what Jesus had to do to rescue us from sin)
I'm so proud of my youngest daughter. She's grown so much since she started going to the Harvest Christian Fellowship church. In fact, she's grown so much and done so much for the Kingdom that Satan took notice of her and attacked, hoping to cool off her love for Jesus. he attacked my grandchildren, and tried to use them against Jennifer. It didn't work though. The church rallied behind Jennifer, not just in prayer, although they certainly did a lot of that, but in being with her and the kids physically. Making sure that someone was doing something with the kids each week and someone was with Jenn and her husband each week to encourage them. (and that was on top of their regular Sunday services and lunches, and their regular Bible study on Wednesday evenings. In fact, at first there was someone with the kids every day and someone with Jenn every day for the first couple of weeks. It took awhile - a little over 6 months I'd say, but Satan was finally defeated and instead of causing Jenn and her family to lose their faith, their faith was strengthened. It was amazing to see! The tool Satan used was the whole transgender thing. One of the kids in Elijah's school decided she was a boy - actually her mother decided that and told her so. (can you believe that??? talk about child abuse!) She insisted that people use the boys name she picked out instead of calling her by her real name - which just happened to be Trinity! Elijah and Grace went along with it at first because they didn't know any better. They wanted to be loving toward her which was great, but they were having trouble with the "tough love" God calls for in cases like this. Like I said, it took awhile, but finally the kids "got it" and saw what was really behind Trinity's actions. It was an amazing learning experience for all of us, and for all the members of the church too. As all of us had to dig into God's Word and pray hard to determine what God's Will was in this situation. How did He want us to deal with the child, and how did He want the Jenn and Bob to deal with their children; how should the children deal with Trinity, etc. So, like I said it was a big learning experience. Although it was hard to go through for everyone, when it was over, we were all glad we went through it and knew we'd grown a lot because of it.
Back to confusion, the devil ( Satan, Beelzebub) is the author of confusion:
[smear:#9c05f9]9 And the great dragon was thrown down, that ancient serpent, who is called the devil and Satan, the deceiver of the whole world Revelation 12:9 [/smear:#107599:0] God is not:
[smear:#73aa20]33 For God is not a God of confusion but of peace. 1 Corinthians 14:33[/smear:#6319b0:0]
However, there is coming a time when God will let the people have their way and believe the lie I think we are seeing glimpses of that even now.
[smear:#1a75a0]11 Therefore God sends them a strong delusion, so that they may believe what is false,[/smear:#e61930:0]
Because God has given them up....
[smear:#469a4e]24 Therefore God gave them up in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, to the dishonoring of their bodies among themselves,
25 because they exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever! Amen. Romans 1:24,25[/smear:#e65819:0]
The thing about confused people, they are like the saying:
that hurting people hurt.....people
So confused people, spread confusion and deception to others.
We know that the devil is the author of confusion, deception and is the Father of lies.
[smear:#057228]44 You are of your father the devil, and your will is to do your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks out of his own character, for he is a liar and the father of lies.
John 8:44[/smear:#efc306:0]
Not only that , but the devil also comes to : steal, kill and destroy....
The thief Jesus is referring to in this verse, is Satan the devil
[smear:#f13a37]10 The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy.
I came that they may have life and have it abundantly. John 10:10[/smear:#1d4bf5:0]
So Satan deceives, confuses, and lies... which leads people in their confusion... to divide on what is true, and that can lead to great anger... division, revenge,destruction, and eventually to killing.
Do we see any of this in the World today?
And tho this is talking about qualifications for church leaders the 'snare of the devil ', can catch anyone especially those, not even aware there is a spiritual battle going on.
[smear:#ff5e36]6 He must not be a recent convert, or he may become puffed up with conceit and fall into the condemnation of the devil. 7 Moreover, he must be well thought of by outsiders, so that he may not fall into disgrace, into a snare of the devil. 1 Timothy 3:6,7[/smear:#4ab69d:0]
Many people caught up in the riots are fighting a 'battle' but they are fighting against what they see as 'hate'....
with hate
They are not showing any aspects of love of mercy to those they deem 'evil' fascists, hate-filled, etc.
This verse is not their creed:
[smear:#47b7f7]14 For the whole law is fulfilled in one word: “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” Galatians 5:14[/smear:#3f9e40:0]
Rather their marching orders from the devil are: to steal, destroy, promote lawlessness, and even kill.
The results are this:
[smear:#e61942]12 And because lawlessness will be increased, the love of many will grow cold. Matthew 24:12[/smear:#85be1a:0]
Not even knowing, they have been deceived and confused by: deceiving spirits/demons,
But not only the unbeliever even those who were once 'attendees' of church, will also fall.
[smear:#46ee6e]4 Now the Spirit expressly says that in later times some will depart from the faith by devoting themselves to deceitful spirits and teachings of demons, 1 Timothy 4:1[/smear:#97243a:0]
Which brings me to this part of BLM that I did not know.
I was aware that this person said they were a trained Marxist but I did not know that she is into a new age spiritual confusion of a type of 'channeling' or as this woman says: "a West African traditions that center on remembering ancestors".
I was not aware that this was a part of BLM
This:
Black Lives Matter is ‘a spiritual movement,’ says co-founder Patrisse Cullors
"Abdullah and Cullors touched on the practice of calling out the names of the victims that they advocate for in protests and demonstrations.
It's kind of a way to invoke their spirits, Abdullah said.
Uplifting the names of victims goes beyond creating hashtags, Cullors said.
“It is literally almost resurrecting a spirit so they can work through us to get the work that we need to get done,” she said".
religionnews.com/2020/06/15/why-black-lives-matter-is-a-spiritual-movement-says-blm-co-founder-patrisse-cullors/
Well to me that is down right spiritually scary because Demons can pretend to be your loved dead ones and they can also possess people that allow them in.
Both these ladies ( and any others they are teaching this to) They all need prayers because, I think they has been deceived.
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I noticed something when you posted the ESV translation of this verse: (this is the NIV translation of it) “The entire law is summed up in a single command: “Love your neighbor as yourself.”” (Galatians 5:14) What made me notice it was because the ESV translation didn't make sense to me. Let me post that version here too: ESV “For the whole law is fulfilled in one word: “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” One word??? That's a lot more then one word! I like to check other translations too in order to see what else I can learn. NET “For the whole law can be summed up in a single commandment, namely, “You must love your neighbor as yourself.” AV For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. NASB95 For the whole Law is fulfilled in one word, in the statement, “YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF.” Out of the 29 translations I have, the only ones that use the phrase "one word" are the authorized version of the King James and the newer King James bible, the NASB and the ESV. That's easy to understand because they're not using the oldest translations. I am surprised at the NASB though. To me, the way they've translated it makes it even more ridiculous. I'd be thinking...ok, which word is it???
Ok, let's look at what the word "command", "commandment", or "word", in the original language means. Strong's 3056: logos AV translates as “word”, “saying”, “account”, “speech”, “Word (Christ)”. Enhanced Strong’s Lexicon.
1. LN 33.98 statement, that which is said; Dictionary of Biblical Languages with Semantic Domains: Greek. LN 33.98 that which has been stated or said, with primary focus upon the content of the communication—‘word, saying, message, statement, question.’ Greek-English lexicon of the New Testament: based on semantic domains .
After looking at all of that, the only way I can see to use the word "word" in that verse would be if you said something like “For the whole law is fulfilled in the Word of God when He said: “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.”
I don't say this to put down the translators. I have a great deal of respect for everyone who's worked at translating the Bible into English or another language. From what I've learned I can see it must be a great deal of hard work. I'm sure the people who translated it using "word" had good reasons for doing so. I just wish I knew what they were. Since I don't, I go with the one that makes the most sense to me.
Again ,on the issue of Satan being the author of confusion, deception, and lies and coming to steal, kill and destroy
We must remember the devil hates humans, and started his plan to eliminate us right from the start, with Adam and Eve in the garden. He use lies and half lies, cunning, propaganda, slick sales tricks, questioning what God said to plant seeds of doubt etc.
[smear:#1cd503] ....he said to the woman, “Did God actually say, ‘You shall not eat of any tree in the garden’?”
2 And the woman said to the serpent, “We may eat of the fruit of the trees in the garden, 3 but God said, ‘You shall not eat of the fruit of the tree that is in the midst of the garden, neither shall you touch it, lest you die.’”
4 But the serpent said to the woman, “You will not surely die.
5 For God knows that when you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and EVIL.” Genesis 3:1-5[/smear:#ca0366:0]
Satan knew, they would surely die, and he was glad and did whatever cunning it took to make it happen.
Today the education system has been subtly influenced by many theories that promote hate: Things like:
white privilege, toxic maleness, systemic racism, Identity politics, critical race theory Marxism, socialism etc.
Just briefly, why would the devil support the idea of 'white privilege' and 'systemic racism' today?
I think Satan is an 'equal opportunity hater' of humans.
There is no question that slavery in our country in the past or anywhere in the world was terrible but all people have been slaves at one time or another.
I think the Jews may have been in slavery the longest 400 years in Egypt.
But God does NOT see some people, as better than other peoples.
[smear:#08bccc] "28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is no male and female,
for you are all one in Christ Jesus. Galatians 3:28[/smear:#e64c19:0]
And God told the Jews, He did not choose them because they were better or more numerous
[smear:#e6b519]7 It was not because you were more in number than any other people that the Lord set his love on you and chose you, for you were the fewest of all peoples,... Deuteronomy 7:7[/smear:#0a77f3:0]
But today, white children are taught , that they seem to all have been given a special leg up economicall, y just because they are white....
However, that is NOT 100% true there are many Caucasians that are in major poverty and there are many black millionaires
Also Caucasian children are told they are oppressors and unfairly advantaged people.
Thus, they are expected to “confirm their white privilege'.
To me this is reverse racism, and perpetrating racism.
In the Bible, it is clear we all came from Adam and Eve We may have more or less melanin, straight or curly hair but we are 'one blood' and brothers and sisters.... in Jesus
But people without God in their lives always do what they 'think' is best... and they always end up hurting others in the end.
[smear:#0c7af7]6 In those days there was no king in Israel. Everyone did what was right in his own eyes. Judges 17:6[/smear:#e61944:0]
Of course, 'the King', the real king is:
The king of kings and Lord of Lords is Jesus.
[smear:#19e629] 14 to keep the commandment unstained and free from reproach until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ, 15 which he will display at the proper time— he who is the blessed and only Sovereign, the King of kings and Lord of lords, 1 Timothy 6:14,15[/smear:#f84777:0] Done for Today
In the world in the past, and also today, Darkness will use any means or every method, to try and eradicate God's light.
I am thinking about how even now , after more than 6 months in many places, in the United States of America, the governmental authorities are still insisting people cannot go to church.
And yes, I realize that a physical building is not necessarily 'church'....
However, a church building, is helpful for God's people to meet and encourage one another, to share the Lord's supper, be able to hear the Word of God etc.
But especially, right now, when people are so afraid of death...
( yet, most people know, that they will die sooner, or later)
People ( some of the already saved, but especially the unsaved),
need to be able to have peace, for the coming day, when they will die.
[smear:#aa3721]you will not fear the terror of the night, nor the arrow that flies by day, 6 nor the pestilence that stalks in darkness, nor the destruction that wastes at noonday. Psalm 91:5-7[/smear:#5ebe20:0]
They need to hear from their Creator God and from God's Word the Bible who says:
[smear:#9619e6] 2 I will say to the Lord, “My refuge and my fortress, my God, in whom I trust.”
3 For he will deliver you from the snare of the fowler and from the deadly pestilence. Psalm 91:2,3[/smear:#fe5a07:0]
People fear death, and there are all sorts of ways people might die,
but their main concern is where will they go after death? Are they forgiven, and will they be with God for all eternity?
That, should be the 'main fear' that needs to be taken care of:
[smear:#2d19e6] 37 “If there is famine in the land, if there is pestilence or blight or mildew or locust or caterpillar, if their enemy besieges them in the land at their gates, whatever plague, whatever sickness there is,
38 whatever prayer, whatever plea is made by any man or by all your people Israel, each knowing the affliction of his own heart and stretching out his hands toward this house,
39 then hear in heaven your dwelling place and forgive and act and render to each whose heart you know, according to all his ways (for you, you only, know the hearts of all the children of mankind),
40 that they may fear you all the days that they live in the land that you gave to our fathers. 1 Kings 8:37-40[/smear:#e65019:0]
Sometimes unbelievers either mock, or get upset, when they read or hear people should 'fear' God....
Even more so, when Christians claim God is 'love'!
[smear:#37f607]8 Anyone who does not love does not know God, because God is love. 1 John 4:8[/smear:#c719e6:0]
and isn't that what we all need, 'love' when 'fearing' a virus?
First of all, one way Christian's 'fear' the Lord God, is to acknowledge He is the Creator.
And to 'respect' Him.
But God is not ONLY a God of 'love' (which is is first and foremost, character trait of God)
He is also, a God of justice.... and will send a person to either Heaven or Hell.... after death.
[smear:#f50a5e]30...“The Lord will judge his people.” 31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God. Hebrews 10:30,31[/smear:#1990e6:0]
Therefore, people are focusing on the wrong thing with their 'fear'
Yes, one needs to be careful with a virus... Notwithstanding, they cannot make that the 'main' thing! God, must always have priority in their life.... And also when fearful of death
At first, when this virus first came on the scene Pastors complied and did not have services in church building, but only, online.
Nevertheless, now that close to 10 months and this virus is turning out to be a little worse than the flu....
And we do not shut down the most important absolute Truth and comfort, peace, and joyful place Church when flu season hits Tho we are careful not to come if we are sick
I think we need to be aware people have been dying from the beginning and we need to have God's Word ( the Bible) fellowship with other believers peace of God and believers have to put God first
Done for today
Cindy
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Post by fearnot on Sept 14, 2020 11:46:06 GMT -5
There are more and more examples of the verse below:
12 And because lawlessness will be increased, the love of many will grow cold. Matthew 24:12
Of course people have 'hated' with cold hearts since time began.... as we saw with the 1 st murder
[smear:#2d54f0]4.........And the Lord had regard for Abel and his offering, 5 but for Cain and his offering he had no regard. So Cain was very angry, and his face fell.
6 The Lord said to Cain, “Why are you angry, and why has your face fallen?
7 If you do well, will you not be accepted? And if you do not do well, sin is crouching at the door. Its desire is contrary to you, but you must rule over it.”
8 Cain spoke to Abel his brother. And when they were in the field, Cain rose up against his brother Abel and killed him.
9 Then the Lord said to Cain, “Where is Abel your brother?” He said, “I do not know;
am I my brother's keeper?” Genesis 4:4-9[/smear:#d519e6:0]
Am I my brother's keeper, to me, is a very cold hearted statement. There is no remorse, no pity, no compassion, no love...
I saw this news article today and the protesters response so reminded me of Cain:
2 LA County deputies 'fighting for their lives' after ambush shooting...
abc7.com/2-lasd-deputies-ambushed-in-compton-shooting/6420532/
One deputy was described as:
a 31-year-old mother of a 6-year-old boy and the other deputy was a 24-year-old man.
But the protesters response was so sad and cold:
"To the protesters blocking the entrance & exit of the HOSPITAL EMERGENCY ROOM yelling "We hope they die" referring to 2 LA Sheriff's ambushed today in #Compton
It seems to me, that on almost all sides, of what is going on in the world today politically or morally etc....
few and fewer, people, have heeded God's words about Love and forgiveness:
[smear:#63e619]Let not steadfast love and faithfulness forsake you; bind them around your neck; write them on the tablet of your heart. Proverbs 3:3[/smear:#8e19e6:0]
Rather we are seeing more and more on a worldwide scale:
[smear:#308696]19 And this is the judgment: the light has come into the world, and people loved the darkness rather than the light because their works were evil. John 3:19[/smear:#e019e6:0]
One might say, but the protesters are trying to right a wrong But frankly, I honestly do not think that is really or mostly, what is going on.
I see that the 'idea' of righting a wrong is being used as an excuse , for much hate and destruction.
Perhaps not for everyone but compassion on those they deem 'evil' is lacking.
And I see a lot of patting oneself on the back as if , they are desperately trying to prove how 'good' they are!
They are following the first part of the next verse, instead of the second part:
43 “You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’
44 But I say to you, Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, Matthew 5:42-44
I need to take that second part of the verse to heart It would be so easy to focus on being angry,
at those who are hypnotized by false theories enhance 'feelings' , and demonic influences
Instead, I need to love the lost, and pray that their hearts may be softened.
Christians are called to a higher standard.
[smear:#fd6903]21 Then Peter came up and said to him, “Lord, how often will my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? As many as seven times?” 22 Jesus said to him, “I do not say to you seven times, but seventy-seven times. Matthew 18:20-22[/smear:#5419e6:0]
Jesus is not suggesting you count to 77 wrongs and then you are done with forgiving The idea is you forgive infinitely Done for today
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Post by Cindy on Sept 15, 2020 9:37:02 GMT -5
There are more and more examples of the verse below:
12 And because lawlessness will be increased, the love of many will grow cold. Matthew 24:12
Of course people have 'hated' with cold hearts since time began.... as we saw with the 1 st murder
[smear:#2d54f0]4.........And the Lord had regard for Abel and his offering, 5 but for Cain and his offering he had no regard. So Cain was very angry, and his face fell.
6 The Lord said to Cain, “Why are you angry, and why has your face fallen?
7 If you do well, will you not be accepted? And if you do not do well, sin is crouching at the door. Its desire is contrary to you, but you must rule over it.”
8 Cain spoke to Abel his brother. And when they were in the field, Cain rose up against his brother Abel and killed him.
9 Then the Lord said to Cain, “Where is Abel your brother?” He said, “I do not know;
am I my brother's keeper?” Genesis 4:4-9[/smear:#d519e6:0]
Am I my brother's keeper, to me, is a very cold hearted statement. There is no remorse, no pity, no compassion, no love...
I saw this news article today and the protesters response so reminded me of Cain:
2 LA County deputies 'fighting for their lives' after ambush shooting...
abc7.com/2-lasd-deputies-ambushed-in-compton-shooting/6420532/
One deputy was described as:
a 31-year-old mother of a 6-year-old boy and the other deputy was a 24-year-old man.
But the protesters response was so sad and cold:
"To the protesters blocking the entrance & exit of the HOSPITAL EMERGENCY ROOM yelling "We hope they die" referring to 2 LA Sheriff's ambushed today in #Compton
It seems to me, that on almost all sides, of what is going on in the world today politically or morally etc....
few and fewer, people, have heeded God's words about Love and forgiveness:
[smear:#63e619]Let not steadfast love and faithfulness forsake you; bind them around your neck; write them on the tablet of your heart. Proverbs 3:3[/smear:#8e19e6:0]
Rather we are seeing more and more on a worldwide scale:
[smear:#308696]19 And this is the judgment: the light has come into the world, and people loved the darkness rather than the light because their works were evil. John 3:19[/smear:#e019e6:0]
One might say, but the protesters are trying to right a wrong But frankly, I honestly do not think that is really or mostly, what is going on.
I see that the 'idea' of righting a wrong is being used as an excuse , for much hate and destruction.
Perhaps not for everyone but compassion on those they deem 'evil' is lacking.
And I see a lot of patting oneself on the back as if , they are desperately trying to prove how 'good' they are!
They are following the first part of the next verse, instead of the second part:
43 “You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’
44 But I say to you, Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, Matthew 5:42-44
I need to take that second part of the verse to heart It would be so easy to focus on being angry,
at those who are hypnotized by false theories enhance 'feelings' , and demonic influences
Instead, I need to love the lost, and pray that their hearts may be softened.
Christians are called to a higher standard.
[smear:#fd6903]21 Then Peter came up and said to him, “Lord, how often will my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? As many as seven times?” 22 Jesus said to him, “I do not say to you seven times, but seventy-seven times. Matthew 18:20-22[/smear:#5419e6:0]
Jesus is not suggesting you count to 77 wrongs and then you are done with forgiving The idea is you forgive infinitely Done for today
Well done! I just want to add that when Jesus said ““You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’” (Matthew 5:43) God told them to love their neighbor in Lev. 19:18, but the pharisees added "and hate your enemy" to what God had said. So Jesus was correcting what the pharisees had gotten wrong.
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Post by fearnot on Sept 15, 2020 9:54:20 GMT -5
Thank you as always!!!! :)
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Post by fearnot on Sept 15, 2020 10:19:21 GMT -5
I've been thinking about the rioters and protesters Antifa, SJW's, BLM etc. In the world today:
They have seemingly ( in my opinion) been caught up in a tragic error in logic that people (from the beginning of time) have fallen into.
That is: looking at a group of people and concluding that,
ALL of the people, in that group, are exactly the same..... Instead of saying: Some are ( fill in the blank) or a few are....... ( fill in the blank)
So for example, they decide All police are evil, murderous, fascists etc. etc.
People in the past have done the same, with almost any group you can name
ALL blacks are:..... fill in the blank ALL Jews are:........ fill in the blank ALL Italians are: .....fill in the blank ALL Japanese are:........fill in the blank
Add any other group .......and fill in the blank ( they are ALL................)
But now in addition to the police being painted as ALL the same
They are believing All whites are: privileged
Irregardless it would seem if they are:
handicapped Blind and/or deaf homeless sick and dying autistic abused have Down syndrome etc. etc. etc.
However, there are however two instances where one can rightfully say:
ALL and it is TRUE for ALL people , everywhere and for ALL times.
23 for all have sinned [smear:#a323a3]and fall short of the glory of God, Romans 3:23[/smear:#e64c19:0]
And this:
[smear:#91e619]9 What then? Are we Jews any better off? No, not at all. For we have already charged that all, both Jews and Greeks, are under sin,
10 as it is written:
“None is righteous, no, not one; 11 no one understands; no one seeks for God.
12 All have turned aside; together they have become worthless; no one does good, not even one.” Romans 3:9-12[/smear:#bf15b0:0]
Also, we can say that:
they ALL need Jesus as their Savior from their sins.
[smear:#05f8b9]Grace and peace from God the Father and Christ Jesus our Savior. Titus 1:4[/smear:#2719e6:0]
Plus
[smear:#fc2205]15 The saying is trustworthy and deserving of full acceptance, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners, of whom I am the foremost. 1 Timothy 1:15[/smear:#5055f1:0]
And also:
[smear:#43b794] 8 God shows his love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us.
9 Since, therefore, we have now been justified by his blood, much more shall we be saved by him ..... Romans 5:8,9[/smear:#e6194c:0]
It is important to know we....(you and I) are sinners and ONLY ONE sin, that has not been forgiven,
(no matter how small we believe it is) will keep us out of Heaven.... unless, it has been paid for by the blood of Jesus
[smear:#1c5924]23 For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord. Romans 6:23[/smear:#ed0af4:0]
Some might complain that is not just or fair after all, they have only committed a few 'little' wrongs in life nothing like a mass murderer.... What they do not realize is the human heart is desperately wicked.
[smear:#3fb2f7]The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately sick; who can understand it? Jeremiah 17:9[/smear:#e619d8:0]
The proof is in the pudding as the saying goes Some of the people who would claim they are much more righteous, than those they are deeming evil
and therefore 'they' not very much of a 'sinner'... unlike the police, or privileged whites etc etc.
are some of the same people , who a year ago would not be doing the things they now doing while rioting stealing, setting fires, trying to hurt or even kill police
These are not minor sins! ( actually there is no true 'minor' sin it will grow)
The point is even if you had ONLY one sinful 'thought' in your mind one sin ( and you ( or I) did not even physically act on it)
if you ( or I) lived eternally ( which we ALL will) that sin would grow.... Sin always grows!
Unless Jesus paid for that one sin and the other sins that will come it will birth more sins ( in time)
we ALL would become evil monsters.
Without God's intervening Sin is incurable, it is like cancer, it WILL grow and grow!
[smear:#1c4972] 29 They were filled with all manner of unrighteousness, evil, covetousness, malice. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, maliciousness. They are gossips,
30 slanderers, haters of God, insolent, haughty, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents,
31 foolish, faithless, heartless, ruthless. Romans 1:29-31[/smear:#fa3760:1]
That is not an exhaustive list....it just a few. A person doesn't have to even do all that is listed, but these are a few of the attitudes, and behaviors God cannot allow in Heaven to grow forever worse
A person has to have these sins and others not listed paid for and even tho they may continue to sin they have to hate the sins because they are 'born again'.
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Post by Cindy on Sept 16, 2020 10:14:01 GMT -5
I've been thinking about the rioters and protesters Antifa, SJW's, BLM etc. In the world today:
They have seemingly ( in my opinion) been caught up in a tragic error in logic that people (from the beginning of time) have fallen into.
That is: looking at a group of people and concluding that,
ALL of the people, in that group, are exactly the same..... Instead of saying: Some are ( fill in the blank) or a few are....... ( fill in the blank)
So for example, they decide All police are evil, murderous, fascists etc. etc.
People in the past have done the same, with almost any group you can name
ALL blacks are:..... fill in the blank ALL Jews are:........ fill in the blank ALL Italians are: .....fill in the blank ALL Japanese are:........fill in the blank
Add any other group .......and fill in the blank ( they are ALL................)
But now in addition to the police being painted as ALL the same
They are believing All whites are: privileged
Irregardless it would seem if they are:
handicapped Blind and/or deaf homeless sick and dying autistic abused have Down syndrome etc. etc. etc.
However, there are however two instances where one can rightfully say:
ALL and it is TRUE for ALL people , everywhere and for ALL times.
23 for all have sinned [smear:#a323a3]and fall short of the glory of God, Romans 3:23[/smear:#e64c19:0]
And this:
[smear:#91e619]9 What then? Are we Jews any better off? No, not at all. For we have already charged that all, both Jews and Greeks, are under sin,
10 as it is written:
“None is righteous, no, not one; 11 no one understands; no one seeks for God.
12 All have turned aside; together they have become worthless; no one does good, not even one.” Romans 3:9-12[/smear:#bf15b0:0]
Also, we can say that:
they ALL need Jesus as their Savior from their sins.
[smear:#05f8b9]Grace and peace from God the Father and Christ Jesus our Savior. Titus 1:4[/smear:#2719e6:0]
Plus
[smear:#fc2205]15 The saying is trustworthy and deserving of full acceptance, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners, of whom I am the foremost. 1 Timothy 1:15[/smear:#5055f1:0]
And also:
[smear:#43b794] 8 God shows his love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us.
9 Since, therefore, we have now been justified by his blood, much more shall we be saved by him ..... Romans 5:8,9[/smear:#e6194c:0]
It is important to know we....(you and I) are sinners and ONLY ONE sin, that has not been forgiven,
(no matter how small we believe it is) will keep us out of Heaven.... unless, it has been paid for by the blood of Jesus
[smear:#1c5924]23 For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord. Romans 6:23[/smear:#ed0af4:0]
Some might complain that is not just or fair after all, they have only committed a few 'little' wrongs in life nothing like a mass murderer.... What they do not realize is the human heart is desperately wicked.
[smear:#3fb2f7]The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately sick; who can understand it? Jeremiah 17:9[/smear:#e619d8:0]
The proof is in the pudding as the saying goes Some of the people who would claim they are much more righteous, than those they are deeming evil
and therefore 'they' not very much of a 'sinner'... unlike the police, or privileged whites etc etc.
are some of the same people , who a year ago would not be doing the things they now doing while rioting stealing, setting fires, trying to hurt or even kill police
These are not minor sins! ( actually there is no true 'minor' sin it will grow)
The point is even if you had ONLY one sinful 'thought' in your mind one sin ( and you ( or I) did not even physically act on it)
if you ( or I) lived eternally ( which we ALL will) that sin would grow.... Sin always grows!
Unless Jesus paid for that one sin and the other sins that will come it will birth more sins ( in time)
we ALL would become evil monsters.
Without God's intervening Sin is incurable, it is like cancer, it WILL grow and grow!
[smear:#1c4972] 29 They were filled with all manner of unrighteousness, evil, covetousness, malice. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, maliciousness. They are gossips,
30 slanderers, haters of God, insolent, haughty, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents,
31 foolish, faithless, heartless, ruthless. Romans 1:29-31[/smear:#fa3760:1]
That is not an exhaustive list....it just a few. A person doesn't have to even do all that is listed, but these are a few of the attitudes, and behaviors God cannot allow in Heaven to grow forever worse
A person has to have these sins and others not listed paid for and even tho they may continue to sin they have to hate the sins because they are 'born again'.
Done for today
Fantastic!!!!!
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Post by fearnot on Sept 16, 2020 11:55:20 GMT -5
Thank you Cindy.....May God get the glory but that is so kind :)
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Post by fearnot on Sept 16, 2020 12:09:09 GMT -5
Today is more a random thoughts day :)
We can see in the Bible that even governments that were fairly 'good' as far as earthy governments go eventually failed and fell. ( secular history also demonstrates this too).
And so, we need to hold everything loosely in the world today even our 'rights' No I don't mean we necessarily let evil roll over us and not say a peep but many Christians have died as martyrs and were not crushed or defeated
[smear:#a5361a]8 We are afflicted in every way, but not crushed; perplexed, but not driven to despair; 9 persecuted, but not forsaken; struck down, but not destroyed; 2 Corinthians 4:8,9 [/smear:#1a9cbe:0]
Like Job, God can bless us or take away blessings and give back double blessings..... If He so chooses
[smear:#10c466]21 And he said, “Naked I came from my mother's womb, and naked shall I return. The Lord gave, and the Lord has taken away; [/smear:#f4aa06:0] blessed be the name of the Lord.” Job 1:21
And part of not holding tightly to the things of the world would be to follow this verse, if at all possible..... Even if , we had only one slice of bread, we could break it in half and share:
[smear:#0c96c6]16 Do not neglect to do good and to share what you have, for such sacrifices are pleasing to God. Hebrews 13:16[/smear:#f705f0:0]
This world, even the universe all people are dying what is a material thing......
over love, kindness, compassion and most of all salvation?
[smear:#3b4857]19 “Do not lay up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy and where thieves break in and steal,
20 but lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust destroys and where thieves do not break in and steal.
21 For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also. Matthew 6:19-21[/smear:#cc05fb:0]
It does not matter if a person has a 1,000 mansions 3,000 fleet of the world's most expensive cars and planes Stores of the finest most expensive designer clothes to wear etc. Some day, they WILL lose them all....at their death.
Instead, consider these Words from the Bible: [smear:#19e635] 25 “Therefore I tell you, do not be anxious about your life, what you will eat or what you will drink, nor about your body, what you will put on.
Is not life more than food, and the body more than clothing?
26 Look at the birds of the air: they neither sow nor reap nor gather into barns, and yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not of more value than they?
27 And which of you by being anxious can add a single hour to his span of life?
28 And why are you anxious about clothing? Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow: they neither toil nor spin,
29 yet I tell you, even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these.
30 But if God so clothes the grass of the field, which today is alive and tomorrow is thrown into the oven, will he not much more clothe you, O you of little faith?
31 Therefore do not be anxious, saying, ‘What shall we eat?’ or ‘What shall we drink?’ or ‘What shall we wear?’
32 For the Gentiles seek after all these things, and your heavenly Father knows that you need them all.
33 But seek first the kingdom of God and his righteousness, and all these things will be added to you. Matthew 6:26-33[/smear:#7d19e6:0]
We cannot die, until we die and in the meantime God has plans and purposes for Christians ( once they are saved) and then we live forever with Him.
[smear:#6bf33f]The Lord will fulfill his purpose for me; your steadfast love, O Lord, endures forever. Do not forsake the work of your hands. Psalms 138:8[/smear:#1940e6:0]
and this
1[smear:#f4ad0a]1 For I know the plans I have for you, declares the Lord, plans for welfare and not for evil, to give you a future and a hope. Jeremiah 29:11[/smear:#9219e6:0]
But even if fear tries to conquer us We can pray this:
[smear:#8d19f8]3 When I am afraid, I put my trust in you. 4 In God, whose word I praise, in God I trust; I shall not be afraid. What can flesh do to me? Psalms 56:3,4[/smear:#62f305:0]
And about fearing men:
[smear:#6a59f2] 8 It is the Lord who goes before you. He will be with you; he will not leave you or forsake you. Do not fear or be dismayed.” Deuteronomy 31:8[/smear:#e61961:0]
Plus this:
[smear:#19e677]9 Have I not commanded you? Be strong and courageous. Do not be frightened, and do not be dismayed, for the Lord your God is with you wherever you go.” Joshua 1:9[/smear:#e61996:0]
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Post by fearnot on Sept 17, 2020 10:20:50 GMT -5
It seems like 2020 is a world collapsing and unraveling into all types of chaos. A virus which turned the world upside down, and changed so many peoples situations. then the ongoing riots, and now fires ( not unlike what Australia had not to very long ago.
People need a firm foundation to lean on, especially since, it might be our 'normal' existence or style of life may only, NOT, get better, but could get worse.
[smear:#9c317a]11 For no one can lay a foundation other than that which is laid, which is Jesus Christ.
12 Now if anyone builds on the foundation with gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, straw— 13 each one's work will become manifest, for the Day will disclose it, because it will be revealed by fire, and the fire will test what sort of work each one has done. 14 If the work that anyone has built on the foundation survives, he will receive a reward. 15 If anyone's work is burned up, he will suffer loss, though he himself will be saved, but only as through fire.[/smear:#227e7f:0]
Christians need to find their firm foundation build on trusting Jesus and that will give them comfort in a disintegrating world.
[smear:#f605b8]19 So then you are no longer strangers and aliens, but you are fellow citizens with the saints and members of the household of God, 20 built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets,
Christ Jesus himself being the cornerstone, 21 in whom the whole structure, being joined together, grows into a holy temple in the Lord Ephesians 2:19=21[/smear:#0977ad:0]
Even if, everything continues to fall down around us, that does not give Christians the right to throw up their hands in defeat, and defiance and join in with the angry rebels.
[smear:#9c022a]19 But God's firm foundation stands, bearing this seal: “The Lord knows those who are his,” and, “Let everyone who names the name of the Lord depart from iniquity.” 2 Timothy 2:19[/smear:#8119e6:0]
Even in the best of times, we might sometimes wish that Jesus would once again be visible and have a worldly presence.
Instead though, we are more blessed, that He is (for now)...
invisible and yet always with us in a spiritual presence....
because that way, instead of being limited to being in only one place, at a time...
He is now spiritually available to all of us all of the time.
And this is what He says to us:
[smear:#6eb90c]5 Keep your life free from love of money, and be content with what you have, for he has said, [/smear:#05c8d2:0] “I will never leave you nor forsake you.” Hebrews 13:5
I am often tempted by weariness each year I grow older and certainly this year with all its upheavals But God reminds me in this verse:
[smear:#e64119]3 Consider him who endured from sinners such hostility against himself, so that you may not grow weary or fainthearted. Hebrews 12:3[/smear:#0676f4:0]
However, the flip side of what is going on in the world today is in a strange way a kind of encouragement because it continues to prove the Bible true. Jesus said to expect tribulations:
[smear:#044287]33 I have said these things to you, that in me you may have peace.
In the world you will have tribulation.
But take heart; I have overcome the world.” John 16:33[/smear:#fa08e7:0]
Our comfort in upsetting times comes from being daily in God's word, the Bible.
[smear:#0aaedb]24 “Everyone then who hears these words of mine and does them will be like a wise man who built his house on the rock.
25 And the rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds blew and beat on that house, but it did not fall, because it had been founded on the rock.
26 And everyone who hears these words of mine and does not do them will be like a foolish man who built his house on the sand.
27 And the rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds blew and beat against that house, and it fell, and great was the fall of it.” Matthew 7:24-27[/smear:#9619e6:0]
Abraham is a good example of how to hold lightly to the material world
[smear:#0df665]8 By faith Abraham obeyed when he was called to go out to a place that he was to receive as an inheritance. And he went out, not knowing where he was going.
9 By faith he went to live in the land of promise, as in a foreign land, living in tents with Isaac and Jacob, heirs with him of the same promise.
10 For he was looking forward to the city that has foundations, whose designer and builder is God. Hebrews 11:8-10[/smear:#e619d8:0]
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Post by fearnot on Sept 18, 2020 11:14:37 GMT -5
I've been thinking a lot about Pastor John MacArthur and the health mandates. I have watched a number of videos where he has given some of the commands Things like a parking space must be left open between each cat and yet this is not seemingly demanded of grocery stores etc. Also every person who attends must register their name and address even tho there are 7,000 that attend....and yet the mandate says: only one person is allowed in the bathroom at a time ( can you envision that? No wonder they laughed LOL) if you talk to someone for 15 mins who is not in your family you must self quarantine for 2 weeks and on and on it goes Here is just one video:
But this last Sunday the parishioners did the most grievous thing yet.... they....... wait for it.....
They laughed!!!
And yet.... for just one example
Coronavirus: Gavin Newsom says California has no restrictions preventing Pac-12 football’s restart www.msn.com/en-us/sports/ncaafb/coronavirus-gavin-newsom-says-california-has-no-restrictions-preventing-pac-12-football-e2-80-99s-restart/ar-BB197qNd
I remember a couple of ( to me) sort of similar incidences in the Bible one on the old testament where 3 godly men disobey a 'government order', true it was not about a virus ( in my mind , a virus perhaps a bit worse than the flu) but nevertheless they refused:
[smear:#2299a8]3:........the dedication of the image that King Nebuchadnezzar had set up. And they stood before the image that Nebuchadnezzar had set up. 4 And the herald proclaimed aloud, “You are commanded, O peoples, nations, and languages,
5 that when you hear the sound of the horn, pipe, lyre, trigon, harp, bagpipe, and every kind of music, you are to fall down and worship the golden image that King Nebuchadnezzar has set up............. Daniel 3:3-5[/smear:#69e619:0]
[smear:#a019e6]16 Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego answered and said to the king, “O Nebuchadnezzar, we have no need to answer you in this matter.
17 If this be so, our God whom we serve is able to deliver us from the burning fiery furnace, and he will deliver us out of your hand, O king.
18 But if not, be it known to you, O king, that we will not serve your gods or worship the golden image that you have set up.” Daniel 3:16-18[/smear:#e61934:0]
And from the new testament this about the disciples:
[smear:#42db81]27 And when they had brought them, they set them before the council. And the high priest questioned them,
28 saying, “We strictly charged you not to teach in this name, yet here you have filled Jerusalem with your teaching, and you intend to bring this man's blood upon us.”
29 But Peter and the apostles answered, “We must obey God rather than men. Acts 5:27-29[/smear:#f306b8:0]
However, the fact California released 17,000 felons/criminals due to covid fears, www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2020-08-06/california-ups-early-inmate-release-estimate-amid-objections
and yet are considering jailing an 81 year old pastor makes me wonder about their priorities?
Will we soon find this to be our lot ? ( like millions of Christians before us)
3 Share in suffering as a good soldier of Christ Jesus. 2 Timothy 2:3
We constantly hear nonbelievers tout 'separation of church and state'
But it seems more and more it goes only one way The state seems to want to either run the church like in China etc. or be rid of it entirely
Proving once again the words of Jesus:
[smear:#3ab232]18 “If the world hates you, know that it has hated me before it hated you. John 15:18[/smear:#d934f6:0]
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