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Post by sevenofnine on Mar 24, 2022 12:36:03 GMT -5
It about politics Religious right and Generation Z which kids born into 1990s are not unconfortable with In Matthew 11:29 of the Bible, Jesus calls for all those who “labor and are heavy laden” to come to Him for rest, a rest that the Church has promised new converts for centuries. A new report released Thursday by the American Enterprise Institute shows, however, that despite the proven benefits of belonging to a faith community, Americans are increasingly leaving organized religion with each subsequent generation and the majority aren’t coming back. In the report, Generation Z and the future of faith in America, Daniel A. Cox, senior fellow in polling and public opinion at the American Enterprise Institute, who also serves as director of the Survey Center on American Life, paints a complicated and diminished view of religion in American life. www.christianpost.com/news/americans-continue-leaving-church-most-arent-coming-back.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook
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Post by fearnot on Mar 25, 2022 1:37:40 GMT -5
It's sad to hear.... but I guess this verse applies to them:
They went out from us, but they were not really of us; for if they had been of us, they would have remained with us; but they went out, so that it would be shown that they all are not of us 1 John 2:19
and also this verse, concerning the end times:
For it is time for judgment to begin with the household of God; and if it begins with us first.... 1 Peter4:17
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Post by sevenofnine on Mar 25, 2022 10:49:41 GMT -5
You know what I feel sorry for LBTO people who raised in church they got shun so they not coming back I think that great missionary start there
Gay teens who left the church they found out that sexual orientation there is minsitry in SO CAL that deal with hurting teenager and young adults it run by Latino American community bible church here in East LA
They doing wonder for that community
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Post by fearnot on Mar 25, 2022 12:19:12 GMT -5
I am not so sure that many Christians ever 'shunned' gays in church
Anymore than they 'shunned',
a husband cheating on his wife with an affair, or a couple living together, but not married or a prostitute or a pedophile etc.
( actually the pastor might really have to set boundaries concerning a pedophile to protect the kids in church....
law suits etc could be massive if he started to prey on church kids)
never mind the grave pain that could be caused,by his life style IF the pedophile was free to be
who they insist they were 'born as' and they needed to be themselves, and they want pedophile rights ( and they do).
( if the opportunity came up to talk about the fact, God does not approve of any of those life styles.....then even lay Christians should talk about it, with love in their heart..... but tell 'the truth')
Most Christians if asked, would say, that those 'life styles' are not God's way... . there is much sorrow caused by insisting and demanding on those ways....
A husband having an affair hurts not only his wife, but his children and so on.
Some gays and transgenders take the:
I was 'BORN THAT WAY' stance....
insinuating God made a mistake!!!!!!!!!!
Most Christians realize they gays deep down inside are hurting ( or most are, if they are really Christians)
We ALL have sin in our lives we ALL struggle with sin
But.... at the same time.........
we do not compromise.... and in a bid to be 'woke' and in order to do so we throw out what God says in His Word.
There are reasons why God said a marriage is between a man and a woman.
God did NOT say:
A marriage can be between a man and a man or woman and a woman or a man and a man and a woman ( 3 in a 'marriage) or 3 men or 3 woman or 5 or 7 or 100 or with a dog etc.
There is a reason God hates divorce ( He does not 'hate' those who get divorced, but God IS grieved and NOT happy about it) and divorce is generally a self-centered hurtful thing to do.
To tell a spouse
you...no longer.....meet MY needs
but my secretary does
and oh by the way
too bad my 5 kids.....dad has to 'do dad' dad has to be happy
There is real reason why God says don't get into the gay life style and satan is behind it.
I suppose there might be some less compassionate Christians
but there are so many non Christians that feel perfectly fine, slamming Christians as: bigoted homophobic stupid anti women haters and the list of slurs about Christians goes on and on.
I imagine there are atheists that are not compassionate to gays also... ( just as they are not compassionate to Christians)
But Christians are to tell the TRUTH IN LOVE
Not to compromise their Christian values from God.... so that we can 'virtue signal' that we are sooooo great, just in order to prove we are not 'haters' and so......we throw God under the bus, just so we look good.
To some, trusting God's ways and not compromising and not saying You just be you its really fine Looks like not compassionate.....
Just like a mother telling a 2 year NO you cannot run in the busy traffic seems totally mean to a 2 year old they do not understand, they are mad and angry and they hate mom for the moment
But really people hate God....who are you to tell me, I cannot do whatever I want, whenever I want to , with whoever I want!
Then then say......as long as it is LOVE but it is NOT love it IS however lust. and lust in the end is very hurtful and a sin.
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Post by sevenofnine on Mar 25, 2022 12:35:30 GMT -5
I know one person who was friend of mine in childhood that was molest by Cathoic priest in parish she hate GOD
She finally sue the LA Archdisose got money out of it
She hate God Church and she is just PLAIN Bitter
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Post by fearnot on Mar 25, 2022 14:29:07 GMT -5
Yes, I think that has happened more than once in the Catholic church ( but also it has happened in the Protestant church but not as much).
That was and is an extreme betrayal of trust, and devastating to that poor child, I am sure.
However, God did not do that terrible thing to her.... a very sin filled man did.
Today, he might claim, he was 'born that way' (to be attracted to little vulnerable girls)
But that was and is a totally self-centered, selfish, non caring about that child attitude..... he did not love her, he abused her.
I suppose, he may have been severely damaged as a child also.
One asks where was God. Well, God could have made us all robots....so we had NO choice, we could ONLY be righteous, could not sin
But neither could anybody ever love because Love is a choice
As to that woman.... Yes she was abused but to turn from God, ultimately will only continue to hurt her.
She will ONLY find peace, healing and forgiveness, if she has God in her life.
Was that a horrible hurtful disgusting violent thing to happen to her? Absolutely!
But here's the problem, in today's 'woke' world.... there are those lobbying for the 'right' to have
the right to do as that priest did, because they were 'born that way'.
In fact there is an organization: NAMBA
that lobbies for it to be legal for grown me to have sex with very very very young boys ( even actual babies).
God has told us what is NOT okay sexually, but people insist and demand to be: FREE to be ME
God loves people, but if they continue in all manner of sins and not confess them.... to God ask for.......... His forgiveness ask for...... His help to overcome them
But, in fact, instead, demand to be able to do such sexual conduct as their 'RIGHT'
Then the time is coming, when God will have to judge the evil they had done to others.
There are endless sins, but some of these sexual sins are so devastating and hurtful God hates the SIN it is NOT beautiful it is NOT love it is lust and it hurts others
I do feel bad for your friend, I pray some day she may be able to be comforted, and heal, and come back to God.....but not in the Catholic church.
Yes, similar things have happen in the Protestant church but the Catholic church makes it way easier for such abuses.
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