fearnot
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Post by fearnot on Apr 12, 2021 11:28:59 GMT -5
My words will be in this color today
and Biblical Scripture will be in this color today
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You posed these 4 questions and what their answers would be:
1. How are all of the following verses true?
2. What is the Lord trying to teach us in these verses and the others like them?
3. Why don't they contradict each other?
4. Zechariah 14:11 is talking about Jerusalem,
saying it will never be destroyed again,
which in turn could mean that the earth would always be here,
but would that be true or not?
“Generations come and generations go,
but the earth remains forever.”
(Ecclesiastes 1:4
“Tremble before him, all the earth!
The world is firmly established;
it cannot be moved.”
(1 Chronicles 16:30)
“He built his sanctuary like the heights,
like the earth that he established forever.”
(Psalm 78:69)
“Heaven and earth will pass away,
but my words will never pass away.”
(Mark 13:31)
“... For this world in its present form is passing away.”
(1 Corinthians 7:31)
In the beginning you laid the foundations of the earth,
and the heavens are the work of your hands.
They will perish, but you remain;
they will all wear out like a garment.
Like clothing you will change them and they will be discarded.”
(Psalm 102:25–26)
“Then I saw a great white throne
and him who was seated on it.
Earth and sky fled from his presence,
and there was no place for them.”
(Revelation 20:11)
“Therefore wait for me,”
declares the LORD,
“for the day I will stand up to testify.
I have decided to assemble the nations,
to gather the kingdoms and to pour out my wrath on them—
all my fierce anger.
The whole world will be consumed by the fire of my jealous anger.”
(Zephaniah 3:8)
This next verse is different from all the others.
I picked it out of the study you're doing now because it could apply to this as well....
It will be inhabited;
never again will it be destroyed.
Jerusalem will be secure.”
(Zechariah 14:11)
Note that there are 4 questions to answer about these verses...
To start with the first question,
all these verses are in the future.
I believe these verses
are talking about the permanency
of the New Heaven,
the New Earth,
and the New Jerusalem.
1 Then I saw a new heaven
and a new earth;
for the first heaven
and the first earth passed away,
and there is no longer any sea
. 2 And I saw the holy city,
new Jerusalem,
coming down out of heaven from God,
made ready as a bride adorned for her husband.
Revelation 21:1,2
So although the first creation,
will be destroyed, and go out of existence
a new heaven, a new Earth
and a new Jerusalem,
will be created.
In a way,
( but I do not know exactly how,
the old and the new creation,
will be similar,
yet very different,
in that there will no longer be any sin.
7 But by His word the present heavens and earth
are being reserved for fire,
kept for the day of judgment
and destruction of ungodly men.
2 Peter 3:7
I am having one of those, unable to stay awake days,
which I have not had for a long time.
So, I will stop for now,
having set up, the next topic.
And continue, tomorrow.
Done for Today
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Post by Cindy on Apr 13, 2021 9:20:44 GMT -5
That's ok hon. This sounds like it will be very interesting!
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fearnot
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Post by fearnot on Apr 13, 2021 12:42:34 GMT -5
My words will be in this color today
and Biblical Scripture will be in this color today
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I already listed a number of the verses,
that can be referred to....
and will be looking at these questions,
and
any others if they come up.
1. How are all of the following verses true?
2. What is the Lord trying to teach us in these verses and the others like them?
3. Why don't they contradict each other?
4. Zechariah 14:11 is talking about Jerusalem,
saying it will never be destroyed again,
which in turn could mean that the earth would always be here,
but would that be true or not?
I looked a bit at the first question already,
and now will look at the 2nd.
The Lord is showing and letting us know,
thru His Word, the Bible,
that his will does not change,
His will..... will be done,
and ultimately,
His plans and His will,
will be for the believer's good.
11 For I know the plans that I have for you,’
declares the Lord,
‘plans for welfare
and not for calamity
to give you a future and a hope.
Jeremiah 29:11
and
Many plans are in a man’s heart,
But the counsel of the Lord will stand.
Proverbs 19:21
Of course, often, our will
( unbeliever's and sometimes even believers,
find, that their will, is not the same as God's will)
“For My thoughts
are not your thoughts,
Nor are your ways
My ways,”
declares the Lord.
Isaiah 55:8
We are seeing this, so much today!
Clearly, many people are not exactly happy
when they hear God will destroy this world and universe.
They have invested so much time and effort,
into saving the planet.
7 But by His word
the present heavens and earth
are being reserved for fire,
kept for the day of judgment
and destruction of ungodly men.
2 Peter 3:7
and
“For behold, I create new heavens and a new earth;
And the former things will not be remembered or come to mind.
Isaiah 55:8
This earth is not made to last forever,
because God is going to destroy it,
and create a New Heaven and a New Earth,
and the New Jerusalem....
that will endure:
“For just as the new heavens and the new earth,
Which I make will endure before Me,”
declares the Lord,
“So your offspring and your name will endure.
Isaiah 66:22
This whole creation has been infected with sin
and death.
Therefore, God wants us to know,
that the choices we make here,
will effect eternity.
These verse will be true for the future
new Creation:
“Tremble before him, all the earth!
The world is firmly established;
it cannot be moved.”
(1 Chronicles 16:30)
“He built his sanctuary like the heights,
like the earth that he established forever.”
(Psalm 78:69)
Forever (aka eternity),
is still in the future.
We are living in the first, but dying creation.
However, the New Creation, will be forever
because there will be no death, sin, sorrow, suffering etc.
He will swallow up death for all time,
And the Lord God will wipe tears away from all faces,
And He will remove the reproach
of His people from all the earth;
For the Lord has spoken.
Isaiah 25:8
There are those who would ask,
when is this new Creation supposed to happen?
The answer is we don't know God's exact timing,
or precise schedule.
Jesus did give us some clues however.
Still, God being outside of time,
is assumed in this verse:
8 But do not let this one fact escape your notice, beloved,
that with the Lord
one day
is like a thousand years,
and a thousand years
like one day.
2 Peter 3:8
However, I think we can safely say,
it is sooner than the day before! :)
and closer than we might think
God is both giving us warning
and giving us a promise.
We need to be sober thinking
time is shorter than we think:
“Heaven and earth will pass away,
but my words will never pass away.”
(Mark 13:31)
and this
“... For this world in its present form is passing away.”
(1 Corinthians 7:31)
Therefore we need to be awake.
The word 'woke'
is all the rage today....
But God encouraged us, believers,
to be 'woke'
His way,
many centuries before:
6 so then let us not sleep as others do,
but let us be alert and sober.
1 Thessalonians 5:6
We can be certain,
that things are going to change!
Are we prepared or scared?
But then,
the day will come,
when all things will be made New.
2 For you yourselves know full well that the day of the Lord
will come just like a thief in the night.
1 Thessalonians 5:2
And this is coming also:
Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth;
for the first heaven and the first earth passed away,
and there is no longer any sea.
2 And I saw the holy city,
new Jerusalem,
coming down out of heaven from God,
made ready as a bride adorned for her husband.
Revelation 21:1,2
Done for Today
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Post by Cindy on Apr 14, 2021 10:24:54 GMT -5
My words will be in this color today
and Biblical Scripture will be in this color today
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I already listed a number of the verses,
that can be referred to....
and will be looking at these questions,
and
any others if they come up.
1. How are all of the following verses true?
2. What is the Lord trying to teach us in these verses and the others like them?
3. Why don't they contradict each other?
4. Zechariah 14:11 is talking about Jerusalem,
saying it will never be destroyed again,
which in turn could mean that the earth would always be here,
but would that be true or not?
I looked a bit at the first question already,
and now will look at the 2nd.
The Lord is showing and letting us know,
thru His Word, the Bible,
that his will does not change,
His will..... will be done,
and ultimately,
His plans and His will,
will be for the believer's good.
11 For I know the plans that I have for you,’
declares the Lord,
‘plans for welfare
and not for calamity
to give you a future and a hope.
Jeremiah 29:11
and
Many plans are in a man’s heart,
But the counsel of the Lord will stand.
Proverbs 19:21
Of course, often, our will
( unbeliever's and sometimes even believers,
find, that their will, is not the same as God's will)
“For My thoughts
are not your thoughts,
Nor are your ways
My ways,”
declares the Lord.
Isaiah 55:8
We are seeing this, so much today!
Clearly, many people are not exactly happy
when they hear God will destroy this world and universe.
They have invested so much time and effort,
into saving the planet.
7 But by His word
the present heavens and earth
are being reserved for fire,
kept for the day of judgment
and destruction of ungodly men.
2 Peter 3:7
and
“For behold, I create new heavens and a new earth;
And the former things will not be remembered or come to mind.
Isaiah 55:8
This earth is not made to last forever,
because God is going to destroy it,
and create a New Heaven and a New Earth,
and the New Jerusalem....
that will endure:
“For just as the new heavens and the new earth,
Which I make will endure before Me,”
declares the Lord,
“So your offspring and your name will endure.
Isaiah 66:22
This whole creation has been infected with sin
and death.
Therefore, God wants us to know,
that the choices we make here,
will effect eternity.
These verse will be true for the future
new Creation:
“Tremble before him, all the earth!
The world is firmly established;
it cannot be moved.”
(1 Chronicles 16:30)
“He built his sanctuary like the heights,
like the earth that he established forever.”
(Psalm 78:69)
Forever (aka eternity),
is still in the future.
We are living in the first, but dying creation.
However, the New Creation, will be forever
because there will be no death, sin, sorrow, suffering etc.
He will swallow up death for all time,
And the Lord God will wipe tears away from all faces,
And He will remove the reproach
of His people from all the earth;
For the Lord has spoken.
Isaiah 25:8
There are those who would ask,
when is this new Creation supposed to happen?
The answer is we don't know God's exact timing,
or precise schedule.
Jesus did give us some clues however.
Still, God being outside of time,
is assumed in this verse:
8 But do not let this one fact escape your notice, beloved,
that with the Lord
one day
is like a thousand years,
and a thousand years
like one day.
2 Peter 3:8
However, I think we can safely say,
it is sooner than the day before! :)
and closer than we might think
God is both giving us warning
and giving us a promise.
We need to be sober thinking
time is shorter than we think:
“Heaven and earth will pass away,
but my words will never pass away.”
(Mark 13:31)
and this
“... For this world in its present form is passing away.”
(1 Corinthians 7:31)
Therefore we need to be awake.
The word 'woke'
is all the rage today....
But God encouraged us, believers,
to be 'woke'
His way,
many centuries before:
6 so then let us not sleep as others do,
but let us be alert and sober.
1 Thessalonians 5:6
We can be certain,
that things are going to change!
Are we prepared or scared?
But then,
the day will come,
when all things will be made New.
2 For you yourselves know full well that the day of the Lord
will come just like a thief in the night.
1 Thessalonians 5:2
And this is coming also:
Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth;
for the first heaven and the first earth passed away,
and there is no longer any sea.
2 And I saw the holy city,
new Jerusalem,
coming down out of heaven from God,
made ready as a bride adorned for her husband.
Revelation 21:1,2
Done for Today
Then let's look at the next one too: “Tremble before him, all the earth! The world is firmly established; it cannot be moved.” (1 Chronicles 16:30) This comes from David’s song of praise to the Lord when they moved the ark into the tent He made for it in Jerusalem. This was after God had struck down Uzzah for touching the Ark of the Covenant when he thought it might fall, and we find his wife, Michael, watching and thinking he's not acting very much like a king should when he dances before the Lord. Parts of it, including this part is repeated in the Psalms. David is looking forward now and thinking about the time when the Messiah reigns and keeps everyone in line so there is no more chaos. So this one is speaking of the Millennial kingdom.
I'm going to get a little out of order here and quote this one next: “Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away.” (Mark 13:31) We need to again look at the context and ask ourselves if Jesus was really talking about the heavens and the earth or if He was trying to make a point about something else. This time it's actually a little of both. First He was making a statement about His Word, especially the prophecy He had just given. He's telling us that what He has said will happen in the future, will most definitely happen and He does so by comparing His Word with something that most everyone considers stable and lasting forever - the heavens and the earth! Secondly, He is also finishing His prophecy by letting us know that one day, the one thing we consider permanent, will be gone, but the one thing that many could care less about, His Word is more permanent then creation itself! So again we have both the present and the future spoken about here.
I'll let you take it from here hon. Then after you've explained each of the verses, we can go back to what you're doing now. That way others reading it won't be confused about what we're saying concerning the verses, ok? I hope you don't mind me constantly harping about making sure we explain things very carefully so there's no misunderstandings possible. But know that we are both going to be judged more harshly then others because we teach, I want to be sure we both come out of the Bema judgement with more rewards and not less! 
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fearnot
Living With Pain
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Post by fearnot on Apr 14, 2021 10:36:56 GMT -5
No I am so glad you did jump in.
Yesterday, I just didn't feel like I was quite on....some days, I feel much better, about my study, and other days, not so much.
I was 'kind of' thinking, I should go in that direction, and was slowly drifting that way....taking two verses at a time.
But I agree, it would be better doing them,
one at a time first.
I will start with the third one...
you having so clearly doing the first two :)
I will also skip the 4th verse listed
for the same reason.
And work on the remaining 5.
Tho I may not get to them all today, it may drift into tomorrow.
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fearnot
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Post by fearnot on Apr 14, 2021 11:16:47 GMT -5
My words will be in this color today
and Biblical Scripture will be in this color today
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“He built his sanctuary like the heights,
like the earth that he established forever.”
(Psalm 78:69)
The heights,
I think,
could be like a lofty mountain,
or even perhaps referring to heaven.
Heaven and earth in this case seem to me to be,
symbolic of stability, and are Holy
and not made by mankind.
The author and builder is God.
He ( God) is in control, He does the building,
and establishing, and God is eternal.
“... For this world in its present form is passing away.”
(1 Corinthians 7:31)
This sin filled world, will not last,
and is dying and will pass away.
However there will be a New Earth, without sin.
But this verse is also letting us know, time is short,
like this present earth, we too will die
( but where will will live eternally, is decided here).
10 and the rich man is to glory in his humiliation,
because like flowering grass he will pass away.
11 For the sun rises with a scorching wind
and withers the grass;
and its flower falls off
and the beauty of its appearance is destroyed;
so too the rich man in the midst of his pursuits will fade away.
James 1:10, 11
and
15 Do not love the world
nor the things in the world.
If anyone loves the world,
the love of the Father is not in him.
16 For all that is in the world,
the lust of the flesh
and the lust of the eyes
and the boastful pride of life,
is not from the Father, but is from the world.
17 The world is passing away,
and also its lusts;
but the one who does the will of God lives forever.
1 John 2:15-17
So I think, the idea might be:
2 Set your mind on the things above,
not on the things that are on earth.
Colossians 3:2
We are often so caught up,
in the 'world' today,
it's politics,
economics,
environment,
social justice,
emotions,
critical race,
weather,
technology,
etc.
But all these things will soon pass away.
14 For here we do not have a lasting city,
but we are seeking the city which is to come.
Hebrews 13:14
We are not to get so entangled in this world,
that we forget it is just temporary,
and we end up neglecting,
doing what God wants you to do,
for His kingdom.
I think I will stop here, because,
I am not sure, I am on the right track yet?
Done for Today
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Post by Cindy on Apr 15, 2021 9:44:39 GMT -5
No I am so glad you did jump in.
Yesterday, I just didn't feel like I was quite on....some days, I feel much better, about my study, and other days, not so much.
I was 'kind of' thinking, I should go in that direction, and was slowly drifting that way....taking two verses at a time.
But I agree, it would be better doing them,
one at a time first.
I will start with the third one...
you having so clearly doing the first two :)
I will also skip the 4th verse listed
for the same reason.
And work on the remaining 5.
Tho I may not get to them all today, it may drift into tomorrow.
My words will be in this color today
and Biblical Scripture will be in this color today
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
“He built his sanctuary like the heights,
like the earth that he established forever.”
(Psalm 78:69)
The heights,
I think,
could be like a lofty mountain,
or even perhaps referring to heaven.
Heaven and earth in this case seem to me to be,
symbolic of stability, and are Holy
and not made by mankind.
The author and builder is God.
He ( God) is in control, He does the building,
and establishing, and God is eternal.
“... For this world in its present form is passing away.”
(1 Corinthians 7:31)
This sin filled world, will not last,
and is dying and will pass away.
However there will be a New Earth, without sin.
But this verse is also letting us know, time is short,
like this present earth, we too will die
( but where will will live eternally, is decided here).
10 and the rich man is to glory in his humiliation,
because like flowering grass he will pass away.
11 For the sun rises with a scorching wind
and withers the grass;
and its flower falls off
and the beauty of its appearance is destroyed;
so too the rich man in the midst of his pursuits will fade away.
James 1:10, 11
and
15 Do not love the world
nor the things in the world.
If anyone loves the world,
the love of the Father is not in him.
16 For all that is in the world,
the lust of the flesh
and the lust of the eyes
and the boastful pride of life,
is not from the Father, but is from the world.
17 The world is passing away,
and also its lusts;
but the one who does the will of God lives forever.
1 John 2:15-17
So I think, the idea might be:
2 Set your mind on the things above,
not on the things that are on earth.
Colossians 3:2
We are often so caught up,
in the 'world' today,
it's politics,
economics,
environment,
social justice,
emotions,
critical race,
weather,
technology,
etc.
But all these things will soon pass away.
14 For here we do not have a lasting city,
but we are seeking the city which is to come.
Hebrews 13:14
We are not to get so entangled in this world,
that we forget it is just temporary,
and we end up neglecting,
doing what God wants you to do,
for His kingdom.
I think I will stop here, because,
I am not sure, I am on the right track yet?
Done for Today
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fearnot
Living With Pain
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Post by fearnot on Apr 15, 2021 10:27:37 GMT -5
Oh phew! I was not sure, if that was exactly, what you were aiming at.
I already wrote you my litany of woes from yesterday, which kept me awake last night
( oh well, I did a lot of praying)
But I am not very 'sharp' today,
and rather sleepy....
so we will see how far I can get.
Thank you so much for the encouragement!
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fearnot
Living With Pain
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Post by fearnot on Apr 15, 2021 10:34:25 GMT -5
My words will be in this color today
and Biblical Scripture will be in this color today
Going thru the verses you suggested,
one at a time,
the next one is:
In the beginning you laid the foundations of the earth,
and the heavens are the work of your hands.
They will perish, but you remain;
they will all wear out like a garment.
Like clothing you will change them and they will be discarded.”
(Psalm 102:25–26)
I think we see a contrast here,
between, God's Creation.....
and
the unchangeable nature of God,
and
His eternal purposes.
Interestingly, in this present Creation,
the laws of thermodynamics operate.
The 2nd law of thermodynamics ,
more or less, states:
That matter has a tendency to
degenerate into a more disordered state,
or
as God says in these verses:
it is' wearing out'.
Scientists only discovered these laws
about 200 years ago approximately,
but God told us them, thousands of years ago.
I often wonder, if these two laws of thermodynamics,
came into being
when man sinned.....
because sin effected all of the universe,
and death and dying began even for the universe.
Isaiah also says a similar thing,
and also shows the contrast,
between the Creator and the Creation:
“Lift up your eyes to the sky,
Then look to the earth beneath;
For the sky will vanish like smoke,
And the earth will wear out like a garment
And its inhabitants will die in like manner;
But My salvation will be forever,
And My righteousness will not wane.
Isaiah 51:6
The next verse was:
“Then I saw a great white throne
and him who was seated on it.
Earth and sky fled from his presence,
and there was no place for them.”
(Revelation 20:11)
Some have called this future event,
the 'uncreation',
when this present earth, and universe
will cease to exist.
The whole universe is
infected,
contaminated,
desecrated,
and besmirched with sin.
It is slated for annihilation,
by God,
in the future.
Again we see the contrast,
that God is eternal,
but this universe is not.
But the Lord abides forever;
He has established His throne for judgment,
Psalms 9:7
The next verse is this one:
“Therefore wait for me,”
declares the LORD,
“for the day I will stand up to testify.
I have decided to assemble the nations,
to gather the kingdoms and to pour out my wrath on them—
all my fierce anger.
The whole world will be consumed by the fire of my jealous anger.”
(Zephaniah 3:8)
In this verse we also see the annihilation of the whole earth,
by fire, because of God's anger on sin.
Another verse indicating the same future event:
10 But the day of the Lord will come like a thief,
in which the heavens will pass away with a roar
and the elements will be destroyed with intense heat,
and the earth and its works will be burned up.
2 Peter 3:10
I was going to do the last verse,
but I am so tired,
I don't think, I would do it any justice at all.
I am not even sure about the ones I covered today.
Prayerfully, I managed a little.
Done for today.
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Post by Cindy on Apr 16, 2021 11:04:48 GMT -5
Oh phew! I was not sure, if that was exactly, what you were aiming at.
I already wrote you my litany of woes from yesterday, which kept me awake last night
( oh well, I did a lot of praying)
But I am not very 'sharp' today,
and rather sleepy....
so we will see how far I can get.
Thank you so much for the encouragement!
My words will be in this color today
and Biblical Scripture will be in this color today
Going thru the verses you suggested,
one at a time,
the next one is:
In the beginning you laid the foundations of the earth,
and the heavens are the work of your hands.
They will perish, but you remain;
they will all wear out like a garment.
Like clothing you will change them and they will be discarded.”
(Psalm 102:25–26)
I think we see a contrast here,
between, God's Creation.....
and
the unchangeable nature of God,
and
His eternal purposes.
Interestingly, in this present Creation,
the laws of thermodynamics operate.
The 2nd law of thermodynamics ,
more or less, states:
That matter has a tendency to
degenerate into a more disordered state,
or
as God says in these verses:
it is' wearing out'.
Scientists only discovered these laws
about 200 years ago approximately,
but God told us them, thousands of years ago.
I often wonder, if these two laws of thermodynamics,
came into being
when man sinned.....
because sin effected all of the universe,
and death and dying began even for the universe.
Isaiah also says a similar thing,
and also shows the contrast,
between the Creator and the Creation:
“Lift up your eyes to the sky,
Then look to the earth beneath;
For the sky will vanish like smoke,
And the earth will wear out like a garment
And its inhabitants will die in like manner;
But My salvation will be forever,
And My righteousness will not wane.
Isaiah 51:6
The next verse was:
“Then I saw a great white throne
and him who was seated on it.
Earth and sky fled from his presence,
and there was no place for them.”
(Revelation 20:11)
Some have called this future event,
the 'uncreation',
when this present earth, and universe
will cease to exist.
The whole universe is
infected,
contaminated,
desecrated,
and besmirched with sin.
It is slated for annihilation,
by God,
in the future.
Again we see the contrast,
that God is eternal,
but this universe is not.
But the Lord abides forever;
He has established His throne for judgment,
Psalms 9:7
The next verse is this one:
“Therefore wait for me,”
declares the LORD,
“for the day I will stand up to testify.
I have decided to assemble the nations,
to gather the kingdoms and to pour out my wrath on them—
all my fierce anger.
The whole world will be consumed by the fire of my jealous anger.”
(Zephaniah 3:8)
In this verse we also see the annihilation of the whole earth,
by fire, because of God's anger on sin.
Another verse indicating the same future event:
10 But the day of the Lord will come like a thief,
in which the heavens will pass away with a roar
and the elements will be destroyed with intense heat,
and the earth and its works will be burned up.
2 Peter 3:10
I was going to do the last verse,
but I am so tired,
I don't think, I would do it any justice at all.
I am not even sure about the ones I covered today.
Prayerfully, I managed a little.
Done for today.
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fearnot
Living With Pain
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Post by fearnot on Apr 16, 2021 11:21:08 GMT -5
My words will be in this color today
and Biblical Scripture will be in this color today
The last verse you listed,
is different,
(according to your question number four.)
“It will be inhabited;
never again will it be destroyed.
Jerusalem will be secure.”
(Zechariah 14:11)
This really does seem to be a promise for the future,
because 3 times it says:
'will be'.
as in the future.
Jerusalem has never been 'safe',
secure,
or at total peace,
to this very day.
And so we as Christians,
continue to:
Pray for the peace of Jerusalem:
“May those who love you be secure.
Psalms 122:6
We are still looking forward to this promise of God:
I will plant Israel in their own land,
never again to be uprooted
from the land I have given them,”
says the Lord your God.
Amos 9:15
Actually, this promise goes all the way back to
what God promised Abraham in Genesis:
7 The Lord appeared to Abram and said,
“To your offspring I will give this land.”
So he built an altar there to the Lord,
who had appeared to him.
Genesis 12:7
To humans who have a short lifespan the fulfillment of
God's promise, may seem like a long time in coming.
( thousands of years, and still not here yet)
However, God had also promised this:
26 See, I am setting before you today a blessing and a curse—
27 the blessing if you obey the commands of the Lord your God
that I am giving you today;
28 the curse if you disobey the commands of the Lord your God
and turn from the way that I command you today
by following other gods,
which you have not known
Deuteronomy 11:26-28
The Jews being sinners, like all men,
did not obey God's commandments,
and did follow after other gods.
However, also in the future, this will happen:
They will come with weeping;
they will pray as I bring them back.
I will lead them beside streams of water
on a level path where they will not stumble,
because I am Israel’s father,
and Ephraim is my firstborn son.
Jeremiah 31:9
Also this:
25 I do not want you to be ignorant of this mystery, brothers and sisters,
so that you may not be conceited:
Israel has experienced a hardening in part
until the full number of the Gentiles has come in,
26 and in this way all Israel will be saved.
As it is written:
“The deliverer will come from Zion;
he will turn godlessness away from Jacob.
27 And this is my covenant with them
when I take away their sins.”
28 As far as the gospel is concerned,
they are enemies for your sake;
but as far as election is concerned,
they are loved on account of the patriarchs,
29 for God’s gifts and his call are irrevocable.
Romans 11:25-29
I've noted,
this is all of God.
He is not waiting and hoping for our choice,
or in this case,
the Jews to chose Him ( Jesus as their Messiah).
For the Jews,
as it is for us:
8 For it is by grace
you have been saved,
through faith—
and this is not from yourselves,
it is the gift of God—
Ephesians 2:8,9
Also:
31 God exalted him to his own right hand as Prince and Savior
that he might bring Israel
to repentance and forgive their sins.
Acts 5:31
In that day,
in the future,
Israel, and Jerusalem,
will be secure
and never again destroyed:
With God we will gain the victory,
and he will trample down our enemies.
Psalms 60:12
I think this begins during the thousand year reign
and continues,
in the New Heaven and New Earth
and throughout eternity.
Done for Today
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Post by Cindy on Apr 19, 2021 8:54:54 GMT -5
My words will be in this color today
and Biblical Scripture will be in this color today
The last verse you listed,
is different,
(according to your question number four.)
“It will be inhabited;
never again will it be destroyed.
Jerusalem will be secure.”
(Zechariah 14:11)
This really does seem to be a promise for the future,
because 3 times it says:
'will be'.
as in the future.
Jerusalem has never been 'safe',
secure,
or at total peace,
to this very day.
And so we as Christians,
continue to:
Pray for the peace of Jerusalem:
“May those who love you be secure.
Psalms 122:6
We are still looking forward to this promise of God:
I will plant Israel in their own land,
never again to be uprooted
from the land I have given them,”
says the Lord your God.
Amos 9:15
Actually, this promise goes all the way back to
what God promised Abraham in Genesis:
7 The Lord appeared to Abram and said,
“To your offspring I will give this land.”
So he built an altar there to the Lord,
who had appeared to him.
Genesis 12:7
To humans who have a short lifespan the fulfillment of
God's promise, may seem like a long time in coming.
( thousands of years, and still not here yet)
However, God had also promised this:
26 See, I am setting before you today a blessing and a curse—
27 the blessing if you obey the commands of the Lord your God
that I am giving you today;
28 the curse if you disobey the commands of the Lord your God
and turn from the way that I command you today
by following other gods,
which you have not known
Deuteronomy 11:26-28
The Jews being sinners, like all men,
did not obey God's commandments,
and did follow after other gods.
However, also in the future, this will happen:
They will come with weeping;
they will pray as I bring them back.
I will lead them beside streams of water
on a level path where they will not stumble,
because I am Israel’s father,
and Ephraim is my firstborn son.
Jeremiah 31:9
Also this:
25 I do not want you to be ignorant of this mystery, brothers and sisters,
so that you may not be conceited:
Israel has experienced a hardening in part
until the full number of the Gentiles has come in,
26 and in this way all Israel will be saved.
As it is written:
“The deliverer will come from Zion;
he will turn godlessness away from Jacob.
27 And this is my covenant with them
when I take away their sins.”
28 As far as the gospel is concerned,
they are enemies for your sake;
but as far as election is concerned,
they are loved on account of the patriarchs,
29 for God’s gifts and his call are irrevocable.
Romans 11:25-29
I've noted,
this is all of God.
He is not waiting and hoping for our choice,
or in this case,
the Jews to chose Him ( Jesus as their Messiah).
For the Jews,
as it is for us:
8 For it is by grace
you have been saved,
through faith—
and this is not from yourselves,
it is the gift of God—
Ephesians 2:8,9
Also:
31 God exalted him to his own right hand as Prince and Savior
that he might bring Israel
to repentance and forgive their sins.
Acts 5:31
In that day,
in the future,
Israel, and Jerusalem,
will be secure
and never again destroyed:
With God we will gain the victory,
and he will trample down our enemies.
Psalms 60:12
I think this begins during the thousand year reign
and continues,
in the New Heaven and New Earth
and throughout eternity.
Done for Today
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fearnot
Living With Pain
Posts: 8,383
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Post by fearnot on Apr 19, 2021 12:16:22 GMT -5
Thank you Cindy.....I guess, I have some good days and others....well...not so much
But may God get the glory.
I am going to start a new one today, but today it may be a bit on the shorter side.
I will work on this one, this week:
Love (which includes forgiveness) which is how Jesus says others will know we belong to Him; what does it look like, etc.
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