fearnot
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Haggai
Jul 21, 2019 15:27:02 GMT -5
Post by fearnot on Jul 21, 2019 15:27:02 GMT -5
I forgot what book we were going to study next, and I forgot to ask.
Soooo I will do Haggai 1
God thru Haggai does not call the Jews 'His' people like He often did, but rather
'these 'people.
These people had built homes for themselves first ( self first) , but not the Lord's house, they said it was not time....and they had a lot of excuses
they didn't have money
there was a drought
they had enemies
etc.
This is a message to me, to not delay and make excuses and put myself, above God).
But now God tells them thru Haggai to go and gather wood etc.
God explains that such behavior ( excuses and delaying, selfishness, etc.) had ,(and will have consequences).
And the people obeyed God....so should I. We can and do sometimes veer off into selfishness, but we can get back on the straight and narrow......
that may sound limiting, but in fact, it is freeing and gives joy.
Furthermore, what more wonderful thing than to have God say, as He did to the people:
"I am with you, declares the Lord."
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fearnot
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Haggai
Jul 22, 2019 11:11:45 GMT -5
Post by fearnot on Jul 22, 2019 11:11:45 GMT -5
Haggai 2
The Coming Glory of the Temple
God asks those that had seen Solomon's temple, how do they see the here and now:
"How do you see it now? Is it not as nothing in your eyes"?
I fall into this trap almost daily. I will never be as useful to God because I did not study the Bible like all the 'great Christians of the past....or even of the here and now. But the result of such comparing, is to give up and do nothing....after all, what good is almost nothing?
Forgetting, God can and has out of absolute 'nothing', at least materially, created a universe!
What IF I only said one word for the Lord my whole life? Who am I? god could take that one word, and effect someone's heart so deeply, that they became a great servant of the Lord that would bring thousands upon thousands to salvation.
God warns us not to compare ourselves, because yes, He does give one more 'gifts' or in a bigger amount than another....but that does not mean the one He gave less to is not blessed by what he or she has been given.
So what are we to do when we have less?
God tells them: "Be strong"
Don't curl up and grumble about what I do not have rather:
"Work, for I am with you" ( in other words, use what little you have with joy)
"Fear not" ( opps, the very 'name' I choose LOL)
God reminds them He did great things in the past. Do we ( I) think He can no longer?
He made a universe....He is going to make another....so can He not work now in littler things?
Of course!
They said they were too poor, but God reminds them He owns everything,
including Gold and Silver, so not to worry about provisions.
He will bring peace also.
Blessings for a Defiled People
Holiness does not come by touching a 'holy' piece of cloth, or holding a relic, or kissing a ring on a 'holy' person
but on the other hand, surrounding our lives with uncleanliness ( in so many ways, our eyes watching porn, listening to people swear, gossip, tell sexually explicit jokes etc., hanging out with evil people as our friends, not trying to save them from Hell, etc etc.)
will begin to contaminate us
so just thinking you live in the holy land, your family is saved, etc. won't by meiosis make you holy...
so those people couldn't be holy by just living in the land but neglecting God.
And neglecting God in your life will have consequences....but like these folks, people don't always make the connection....maybe for some people, because, in a way, they don't even want to.
and finally Zerubbabel was chosen as a signet.
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anna
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Haggai
Jul 23, 2019 8:37:53 GMT -5
Post by anna on Jul 23, 2019 8:37:53 GMT -5
The timeline of when Haggai and Zechariah prophesied in Judah was the year 520 BC.
I noticed in chapter 1, in both verse 5 and 7 the same thing is said, " Thus saith the Lord of hosts; Consider your ways.
In chapter 2:6-7 In a little while I will shake the nations and fill the house with glory.
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fearnot
Living With Pain
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Haggai
Jul 23, 2019 11:03:26 GMT -5
Post by fearnot on Jul 23, 2019 11:03:26 GMT -5
I am so happy you joined us Anna :-) yeah!!!
Thank you for your contributions!
Once again I forgot to ask Cindy which book she might like to study next......now I can ask you too :-)
But.....
Since I did not ask either of you, and I need to study today I will do a super super short book and open a new thread for 2 John ( only one chapter)
But feel free to suggest a book you might like to study with us and or Cindy choose
But for today........it's 2nd John
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Haggai
Jul 24, 2019 10:51:38 GMT -5
Post by Cindy on Jul 24, 2019 10:51:38 GMT -5
I locked the Joshua thread yesterday, hoping I was locking it before you could start this one. Of course, as soon as I posted my reply to you, I discovered you'd already posted this one there and had to move it. But I forgot to unlock it so you could reply to me. I've unlocked it now though.
I forgot what book we were going to study next, and I forgot to ask.
Soooo I will do Haggai 1
God thru Haggai does not call the Jews 'His' people like He often did, but rather
'these 'people.
These people had built homes for themselves first ( self first) , but not the Lord's house, they said it was not time....and they had a lot of excuses
they didn't have money
there was a drought
they had enemies
etc.
This is a message to me, to not delay and make excuses and put myself, above God).
But now God tells them thru Haggai to go and gather wood etc.
God explains that such behavior ( excuses and delaying, selfishness, etc.) had ,(and will have consequences).
And the people obeyed God....so should I. We can and do sometimes veer off into selfishness, but we can get back on the straight and narrow......
that may sound limiting, but in fact, it is freeing and gives joy.
Furthermore, what more wonderful thing than to have God say, as He did to the people:
"I am with you, declares the Lord."
Haggai 2
The Coming Glory of the Temple
God asks those that had seen Solomon's temple, how do they see the here and now:
"How do you see it now? Is it not as nothing in your eyes"?
I fall into this trap almost daily. I will never be as useful to God because I did not study the Bible like all the 'great Christians of the past....or even of the here and now. But the result of such comparing, is to give up and do nothing....after all, what good is almost nothing?
Forgetting, God can and has out of absolute 'nothing', at least materially, created a universe!
What IF I only said one word for the Lord my whole life? Who am I? god could take that one word, and effect someone's heart so deeply, that they became a great servant of the Lord that would bring thousands upon thousands to salvation.
God warns us not to compare ourselves, because yes, He does give one more 'gifts' or in a bigger amount than another....but that does not mean the one He gave less to is not blessed by what he or she has been given.
So what are we to do when we have less?
God tells them: "Be strong"
Don't curl up and grumble about what I do not have rather:
"Work, for I am with you" ( in other words, use what little you have with joy)
"Fear not" ( opps, the very 'name' I choose LOL)
God reminds them He did great things in the past. Do we ( I) think He can no longer?
He made a universe....He is going to make another....so can He not work now in littler things?
Of course!
They said they were too poor, but God reminds them He owns everything,
including Gold and Silver, so not to worry about provisions.
He will bring peace also.
Blessings for a Defiled People
Holiness does not come by touching a 'holy' piece of cloth, or holding a relic, or kissing a ring on a 'holy' person
but on the other hand, surrounding our lives with uncleanliness ( in so many ways, our eyes watching porn, listening to people swear, gossip, tell sexually explicit jokes etc., hanging out with evil people as our friends, not trying to save them from Hell, etc etc.)
will begin to contaminate us
so just thinking you live in the holy land, your family is saved, etc. won't by meiosis make you holy...
so those people couldn't be holy by just living in the land but neglecting God.
And neglecting God in your life will have consequences....but like these folks, people don't always make the connection....maybe for some people, because, in a way, they don't even want to.
and finally Zerubbabel was chosen as a signet.
““ ‘On that day,’ declares the LORD Almighty, ‘I will take you, my servant Zerubbabel son of Shealtiel,’ declares the LORD, ‘and I will make you like my signet ring, for I have chosen you,’ declares the LORD Almighty.”” (Haggai 2:23) Zerubbabel represents the Davidic dynasty and the resumption of the messianic line interrupted by the Exile. The signet ring of Jehoiachin was removed by God (Jeremiah 22:24–30) before the exile to Babylon (where it would be useless) when He cursed him for his disobedience. It's renewed here for his grandson, Zerubbabel, reestablishing the Davidic line of kings, which will end in the millennial reign of Christ. Here's the verse about the ring: ““As surely as I live,” declares the LORD, “even if you, Jehoiachin son of Jehoiakim king of Judah, were a signet ring on my right hand, I would still pull you off.” (Jeremiah 22:24) And this one really shows how God ended it with him: “Is this man Jehoiachin a despised, broken pot, an object no one wants? Why will he and his children be hurled out, cast into a land they do not know? O land, land, land, hear the word of the LORD! This is what the LORD says: “Record this man as if childless, a man who will not prosper in his lifetime, for none of his offspring will prosper, none will sit on the throne of David or rule anymore in Judah.”” (Jeremiah 22:28–30)
The timeline of when Haggai and Zechariah prophesied in Judah was the year 520 BC.
I noticed in chapter 1, in both verse 5 and 7 the same thing is said, " Thus saith the Lord of hosts; Consider your ways.
In chapter 2:6-7 In a little while I will shake the nations and fill the house with glory. I am so happy you joined us Anna :-) yeah!!!
Thank you for your contributions!
Once again I forgot to ask Cindy which book she might like to study next......now I can ask you too :-)
But.....
Since I did not ask either of you, and I need to study today I will do a super super short book and open a new thread for 2 John ( only one chapter)
But feel free to suggest a book you might like to study with us and or Cindy choose
But for today........it's 2nd John
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fearnot
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Post by fearnot on Aug 9, 2019 13:12:23 GMT -5
I re-read this and again forgot to reply or let you know that I had done so.
Thank you for the added info.
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