Post by Daniel on Feb 13, 2019 11:30:00 GMT -5
Joyce Meyer: “My Faith Will Raise the Dead and Yoga is Fine for Christians”
By Geri Ungurean
On February 9, 2019
I remember when I first watched Joyce Meyer after some women at church recommended her. It’s hard to put into words, but I felt that something was wrong. I had no desire to watch or listen to her again.
Then I began to research Ms. Meyer for an article.
I wrote an article called “Joyce Meyer – Apostate Millionaire” in 2015
Here is that article:
Some will no doubt be angry at this article. That has never stopped me from telling the truth. If you are a Joyce Meyer fan, I would suggest that you take a step back, and look at all of the evidence against this woman. Then ask the Lord if this is a person He would want you to follow.
First of all, I want to say that I do not believe that the Bible supports women being pastors. When the attributes of church leaders are described in the Word, it is always referring to men. So, with that out of the way, I will continue about Ms. Meyer.
I was in Family Christian Bookstore today, waiting in line. The lady in front of me asked the cashier (manager) where the Joyce Meyer materials were. They struck up a conversation about their adoration of Meyer. Then I noticed that the manager lowered her voice while telling this customer a story about Meyer. I was still able to hear her as she spoke in a way that showed she was trying to keep the information somewhat private.
The manager said to the customer, “I know Joyce Meyer personally.” Then she put her hand beside her mouth, as one does when telling a secret, and said “Joyce Meyer took us all on vacation.” The customer was so impressed. I was so disgusted, and it was only God who held me back from saying what I thought of this whole discussion about Ms. Meyer.
I can only think that when she said “Took us all on vacation” it meant the managers of all of the Family Christian Bookstores – nationwide. This only served to confirm to me that Joyce Meyer is a business woman, with an empire worth many millions of dollars.
If you take the time to research Joyce Meyer, you will see that she is worth over $25 million. She lives in a house worth $2 million, and bought homes worth $2 million for each of her children. She owns a corporate jet worth $10 million. She recently purchased a $500,000 vacation home. She says that God made her rich. I say hogwash. She got rich off of the Gospel of Jesus Christ, which is wrong on so many levels.
On top of that, she teaches heresy. And THAT is what the rest of this article will be focused upon.
FROM CARM.ORG
Following is a list of quotes from Joyce Meyer, along with responses.
Jesus stopped being the Son of God: “He could have helped himself up until the point where he said I commend my spirit into your hands, at that point he could do nothing for himself anymore. He had become sin, he was no longer the Son of God. He was sin.”
Then I began to research Ms. Meyer for an article.
I wrote an article called “Joyce Meyer – Apostate Millionaire” in 2015
Here is that article:
Some will no doubt be angry at this article. That has never stopped me from telling the truth. If you are a Joyce Meyer fan, I would suggest that you take a step back, and look at all of the evidence against this woman. Then ask the Lord if this is a person He would want you to follow.
First of all, I want to say that I do not believe that the Bible supports women being pastors. When the attributes of church leaders are described in the Word, it is always referring to men. So, with that out of the way, I will continue about Ms. Meyer.
I was in Family Christian Bookstore today, waiting in line. The lady in front of me asked the cashier (manager) where the Joyce Meyer materials were. They struck up a conversation about their adoration of Meyer. Then I noticed that the manager lowered her voice while telling this customer a story about Meyer. I was still able to hear her as she spoke in a way that showed she was trying to keep the information somewhat private.
The manager said to the customer, “I know Joyce Meyer personally.” Then she put her hand beside her mouth, as one does when telling a secret, and said “Joyce Meyer took us all on vacation.” The customer was so impressed. I was so disgusted, and it was only God who held me back from saying what I thought of this whole discussion about Ms. Meyer.
I can only think that when she said “Took us all on vacation” it meant the managers of all of the Family Christian Bookstores – nationwide. This only served to confirm to me that Joyce Meyer is a business woman, with an empire worth many millions of dollars.
If you take the time to research Joyce Meyer, you will see that she is worth over $25 million. She lives in a house worth $2 million, and bought homes worth $2 million for each of her children. She owns a corporate jet worth $10 million. She recently purchased a $500,000 vacation home. She says that God made her rich. I say hogwash. She got rich off of the Gospel of Jesus Christ, which is wrong on so many levels.
On top of that, she teaches heresy. And THAT is what the rest of this article will be focused upon.
FROM CARM.ORG
Following is a list of quotes from Joyce Meyer, along with responses.
Jesus stopped being the Son of God: “He could have helped himself up until the point where he said I commend my spirit into your hands, at that point he could do nothing for himself anymore. He had become sin, he was no longer the Son of God. He was sin.”
Response: This is heresy. Jesus did not ever stop becoming the son of God. Essentially what she is saying is that Jesus stopped being divine, the eternal son, second person of the Trinity. This is an attack on the very nature of Christ and it is a dangerous false teaching. Joyce Meyer needs to repent and retract this statement. There is no place in Scripture that says Jesus stopped being the son of God. She’s adding to the word of God and placing in the hearts and minds of listeners false doctrine.
Jesus was born again: “The minute that blood sacrifice was accepted Jesus was the first human being that was ever born again,”
Jesus was born again: “The minute that blood sacrifice was accepted Jesus was the first human being that was ever born again,”
Response: This is just plain wrong. Being born again means to be saved from the wrath of God for a person’s sins (Eph. 2:1-3), to have a new birth (John 3:3), and to be regenerated (2 Cor. 5:17). Mrs. Meyer is simply wrong biblically. Why does she teach this? It can only be because she has bought into many of the errors of the Positive Confession movement where it is sometimes said that Jesus lost his divine nature, went to hell, finished the atonement in hell, and was born again! This is a serious error since it implies that Jesus needed to be changed…
Jesus paid for our sins in hell: “He became our sacrifice and died on the cross. He did not stay dead. He was in the grave three days. During that time he entered hell, where you and I deserve to go (legally) because of our sin. He paid the price there.” (The most important decision you’ll ever make, by Joyce Meyer, second printing, may 1993, page 35)
Response: This is blatantly wrong. Jesus did not pay the price of our redemption in hell. He paid the price on the cross. It was finished on the cross when he said, “It is finished” (John 19:30). Also, consider the following verses:
Col. 1:20, “and through Him to reconcile all things to Himself, having made peace through the blood of His cross; through Him, I say, whether things on earth or things in heaven.”
Col. 2:14, “having canceled out the certificate of debt consisting of decrees against us and which was hostile to us; and He has taken it out of the way,having nailed it to the cross.”
1 Pet. 2:24, “and He Himself bore our sins in His body on the cross, that we might die to sin and live to righteousness; for by His wounds you were healed.”
Jesus went to hell in our place and was tormented: “Jesus paid on the cross and went to hell in my place. Then as God had promised, on the third day Jesus rose from the dead. The scene in the spirit realm went something like this: God rose up from his throne and said to demon powers tormenting the sinless son of God, ‘let him go.’ Then the resurrection power of Almighty God went through hell and filled Jesus. On earth his grave where they had buried him was filled with light as the power of God filled his body. He was resurrected from the dead — the first born again man.” (The most important decision you’ll ever make, by Joyce Meyer, second printing, may 1993, page 36)
Response: Where does she get this completely fictitious dialogue between God and the demon powers? It is made up, not founded in scripture, and mistakenly assumes that Jesus went to hell, the place of torment and suffering after he died on the cross. The Bible does not teach any such thing. However, it does say that Jesus descended into the lower parts of the earth (Eph. 4:9). This can mean that Jesus was physically buried, or that Jesus went to Hades to inform those who had already died about who he was and what he did on the cross, or it can be referring to his incarnation as is contrasted with his ascending into heaven (Eph. 4:10). But there is simply no reason to believe that Jesus suffered in hell and finished the atonement there. See response to Quote 1.
If you don’t believe Jesus went to hell, you cannot be saved: “His spirit went to hell because that is where we deserve to go… There is no hope of anyone going to heaven unless they believe this truth.” (The most important decision you’ll ever make, by Joyce Meyer, second printing, may 1993, page 37)
Response: This is an amazingly bad statement on her part. She is saying that you cannot be saved from your sins unless you believe that Jesus went to the hell where we deserve to go. This is a modification of the gospel message that saves, as is found in 1 Cor. 15:1-4 that states it is the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus. Nowhere in scripture are we told to believe that Jesus suffered for us in hell or that he went there, where we deserve to go. This is very wrong and is heretical.
Col. 1:20, “and through Him to reconcile all things to Himself, having made peace through the blood of His cross; through Him, I say, whether things on earth or things in heaven.”
Col. 2:14, “having canceled out the certificate of debt consisting of decrees against us and which was hostile to us; and He has taken it out of the way,having nailed it to the cross.”
1 Pet. 2:24, “and He Himself bore our sins in His body on the cross, that we might die to sin and live to righteousness; for by His wounds you were healed.”
Jesus went to hell in our place and was tormented: “Jesus paid on the cross and went to hell in my place. Then as God had promised, on the third day Jesus rose from the dead. The scene in the spirit realm went something like this: God rose up from his throne and said to demon powers tormenting the sinless son of God, ‘let him go.’ Then the resurrection power of Almighty God went through hell and filled Jesus. On earth his grave where they had buried him was filled with light as the power of God filled his body. He was resurrected from the dead — the first born again man.” (The most important decision you’ll ever make, by Joyce Meyer, second printing, may 1993, page 36)
Response: Where does she get this completely fictitious dialogue between God and the demon powers? It is made up, not founded in scripture, and mistakenly assumes that Jesus went to hell, the place of torment and suffering after he died on the cross. The Bible does not teach any such thing. However, it does say that Jesus descended into the lower parts of the earth (Eph. 4:9). This can mean that Jesus was physically buried, or that Jesus went to Hades to inform those who had already died about who he was and what he did on the cross, or it can be referring to his incarnation as is contrasted with his ascending into heaven (Eph. 4:10). But there is simply no reason to believe that Jesus suffered in hell and finished the atonement there. See response to Quote 1.
If you don’t believe Jesus went to hell, you cannot be saved: “His spirit went to hell because that is where we deserve to go… There is no hope of anyone going to heaven unless they believe this truth.” (The most important decision you’ll ever make, by Joyce Meyer, second printing, may 1993, page 37)
Response: This is an amazingly bad statement on her part. She is saying that you cannot be saved from your sins unless you believe that Jesus went to the hell where we deserve to go. This is a modification of the gospel message that saves, as is found in 1 Cor. 15:1-4 that states it is the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus. Nowhere in scripture are we told to believe that Jesus suffered for us in hell or that he went there, where we deserve to go. This is very wrong and is heretical.
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