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Post by fearnot on Oct 13, 2016 11:28:26 GMT -5
10/13/16
John 11: 38-57
Jesus Raises Lazarus From the Dead
So I asked/commented to Jesus
v. 38 says you were....'once more'...deeply moved.
Does your heart break every time one of us die, knowing, it didn't have to be this way?
You had not yet gone to the cross,
but even now,
tho you have secured eternity future for those who believe in you......
we still have to die.
But you have promised to never leave us, so having conquered death, it will not be as scary or frightening as we may sometimes fear.
my application is to let the Lord take off my 'grave clothes'
v.44 "........Jesus said to them, “Take off the grave clothes and let him go.”
The next section The Plot to Kill Jesus
In a sense we have the unholy three groups plotting to kill our Lord:
v. 47 "Then the chief priests and the Pharisees called a meeting of the Sanhedrin ( I think the elders also? which would make 3 groups......but in any case this event tipped the scales to murder for sure).
It seems crazy to me, because they did not know Jesus was going to willing die. But they did know he preformed miracles, so why wouldn't they think he might kill them?
But apparently they reasoned:
"“Here is this man performing many signs. 48 If we let him go on like this, everyone will believe in him, and then the Romans will come and take away both our temple and our nation.”
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Post by Cindy on Oct 13, 2016 13:00:33 GMT -5
I never really thought of this...you said:
"So they are not besetting sins any longer because we don't do them all the time anymore, but just once in a great while."
Somehow that was comforting ( not that its still sin, but it sin decreasing,and in some cases totally repented of and gone for good.....not even to snare me, when my guard is down.
Actually everything you said ( some you have said before of course) was comforting and helpful!! Thank you.
I am beginning to worry and/or wonder what happened to Eva?I know with her work shc couldn't always come every day without fail, but she was really doing pretty good I thought.
Then she mentioned moving and poof....
I will start looking for questions to ask....I still am not overly comfortable with that, so I do so appreciate your kindness, patience and encouragement. :-)
Did you know Leonard sent you PM about a Bible question he had? :-)
I'm glad it helped hon. Don't worry about the questions, it will come in time....
I've been wondering about Eva as well. I hope she's ok. I keep reminding myself that this isn't unusual for her, so she's probably fine.
Yes, I answered him the next day, didn't he get it? I just checked and it did get sent, but I sent it again so hopefully he'll see it this time.10/10/16
John 10: 22-40
I love it that 2 times Jesus says in these verses that no one can snatch those that are His out of His hands.
I know there are some that are His, that then go and either get back into all manner of sins ( of course own their own) but also sometimes because some demon(s) are enticing them....but even so ( and we know it breaks Jesus heart) but tho they wander off like foolish sheep, if they truly belong to the Lord, no demon, nor satan himself will be able to have them for all eternity because ultimately, no one can really take them out of Jesus possession.
v. 31 says:
"Again his Jewish opponents picked up stones to stone him..."
Every time I read that I can't help but ask the Lord, how can you be so patient? Were you never tempted like James and John?:
Luke 9:54 "When the disciples James and John saw this, they asked, “Lord, do you want us to call fire down from heaven to destroy them?”
Of course the answer is the next verse:
Luke 9:55 "But Jesus turned and rebuked them".
Again to those who try to say Jesus never claimed to be God
v. 30 "I and the Father are one.”
And in case the nay sayers try to explain that one away, one of the next verses makes it clear that the Jews also thought He claimed to be God!
v. 33 “We are not stoning you for any good work,” they replied, “but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God.”
10/11/16
John 11:1-16
The Death of Lazarus
I remember hearing a long time ago that we ought to let the Bible give the meaning of a word.....
and in this passage, there is a good example.
Some people when they read in the Bible of someone falling asleep, may think the meaning is natural sleep ( and it might), but not always such as in v.12
but v. 14 gives the correct definition.
v. 12 "His disciples replied, “Lord, if he sleeps, he will get better.”
v. 13 Jesus had been speaking of his death, but his disciples thought he meant natural sleep.
v. 14 So then he told them plainly, “Lazarus is dead,....."
My application is in the next verse, which I know is at least in part, or mainly said, out of discouragement and/or a kind of disbelief.....
However, to me, it also shows a steadfast love and loyalty to the Lord Jesus and willingness to even die with Him.
v. 16 "Then Thomas (also known as Didymus) said to the rest of the disciples, “Let us also go, that we may die with him.”
 I am so sorry to hear Bruce is still suffering, and I am sure it is very wearing on your health too!!!
Just take your time....I was just thinking, that a few days here and there with nobody but me, could be a good thing, in that I am encouraged to stay the course 10/12/16
John 11:17-37
Jesus Comforts the Sisters of Lazarus
When I start to fear the pain of death I should memorize and reflect on verses 25 & 26
v. 25 "Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life.
The one who believes in me will live, even though they die;
v. 26 "and whoever lives by believing in me will never die. Do you believe this?”
I am thinking someone might get confused and say, well everyone will live after they die.....but I think that being in Hell, is 'existing'and that without joy, love, creativity, beauty or anything else... and its even worse than all that...
it for sure, is nothing like really 'living', being in eternity with Jesus.
10/13/16
John 11: 38-57
Jesus Raises Lazarus From the Dead
So I asked/commented to Jesus
v. 38 says you were....'once more'...deeply moved.
Does your heart break every time one of us die, knowing, it didn't have to be this way?
You had not yet gone to the cross,
but even now,
tho you have secured eternity future for those who believe in you......
we still have to die.
But you have promised to never leave us, so having conquered death, it will not be as scary or frightening as we may sometimes fear.
my application is to let the Lord take off my 'grave clothes'
v.44 "........Jesus said to them, “Take off the grave clothes and let him go.”
The next section The Plot to Kill Jesus
In a sense we have the unholy three groups plotting to kill our Lord:
v. 47 "Then the chief priests and the Pharisees called a meeting of the Sanhedrin ( I think the elders also? which would make 3 groups......but in any case this event tipped the scales to murder for sure).
It seems crazy to me, because they did not know Jesus was going to willing die. But they did know he preformed miracles, so why wouldn't they think he might kill them?
But apparently they reasoned:
"“Here is this man performing many signs. 48 If we let him go on like this, everyone will believe in him, and then the Romans will come and take away both our temple and our nation.”
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Post by fearnot on Oct 13, 2016 21:35:47 GMT -5
I know I am slow on questions....but I never used to look for applications ever and so at least, that IS getting better yes?
I know Eva has 'disappeared' so to speak before but this is over a month now, soooooo
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Post by Cindy on Oct 14, 2016 10:23:16 GMT -5
I know I am slow on questions....but I never used to look for applications ever and so at least, that IS getting better yes?
I know Eva has 'disappeared' so to speak before but this is over a month now, soooooo  Besides which, the only purpose of the questions, were to get you to think about what you're reading and talk to the Lord about it, the way you'd talk to any friend about something they knew about - to get you to have a better idea that He is right there with you when you're reading His Word and that He wants you to understand it and really will help you.
I have to be careful about saying things like having a conversation with Him, although I do it all the time, but now days it's often understood wrongly to assume the person means they hear voices or like the new agers and occultists channeling or something. And that's not at all what I mean! When I say the Lord showed me something, or told me something, or anything similar, what I actually mean is that I found in His Word whatever it was I'm talking about; that the Holy Spirit did just what He said He would, and guided me to where I would find the explanation or encouragement or whatever I needed, in His word. Another way I've meant it when I'm not actually in His Word, like if I'm reading a book, talking with friends, or watching TV, is that He will bring scripture to my mind (again, just like He says He will) that gives me greater or different understanding of what I'm hearing or watching. I'm pretty sure you've understood that, but thought I should explain it just in case someone reading this doesn't understand what I'm really meaning.
I agree she's been gone a very long time. I hope she returns soon and let's us know how she's doing.
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Post by fearnot on Oct 14, 2016 12:40:48 GMT -5
Thank you Cindy.
I sort of feel like almost like going from 1st grade to 2nd.....this year the Lord is teaching me, about applications but the questions/talking do happen....
It even happens when watching a series ( I keep watching, then, dumping them).
But while watching, at least 2-5 times in 1/2 an hour, a Biblical principal, doctrine, or quote will come to mind.
Not only that, it's like I see a bigger picture: the use of attractive actors, humor, mystery, realism, etc. to covertly and subtly push an agenda.
I find I am reading more and more, as a result.
But next year if I pass into 3rd grade LOL will may focus on questions. I am just excited to actually be able to find applications.
I remember 20 years of more ago, going to BSF ( a Bible study that was started by one of Hudson Taylor China missionaries).
Anyway, they would often mention applications and I would always draw a complete blank, but was in complete awe when I would hear an application, but could not for the life of me, think of one myself!!!
So even tho mine may not be very advanced to me, to find any at all is astounding! I thank Jesus for letting me take even these baby steps!
Oh yes, thank you for being so specific about what talking to Jesus really means.
I had looked at a you tube video yesterday ( got there via a different video who mention this pastor).
Well the pastor had some neat insights to scripture.....but then, he started mumbling in gibberish and giving prophetic statements.....
Arrgggghhhhh
I checked and saw he was a Charismatic 'pastor' and was 'hearing/ talking ' to God....so it's not only new age sigh....its right in a branch that is 'supposed 'to be Christian ( what I mean is it calls itself Christian...I don't see it!!).
Well, I may dawdle ending a series, but I turned THAT video right OFF immediately, no dawdling!!
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Post by fearnot on Oct 14, 2016 17:37:42 GMT -5
10/14/16
John 12:1-19
Jesus Anointed at Bethany
It's really strange, I thought I knew the details of this event, but here it says it happened in the home of Mary, Martha and Lazarus's home.
Secondly, I must have forgotten v. 10 & 11, that:
v.10 "...the chief priests made plans to kill Lazarus as well, v.11 "for on account of him many of the Jews were going over to Jesus and believing in him"
A kind of strange application would be for me to 'count the cost' of being healed by the Lord because not all people would be happy for me.
The second part is devoted to:
Jesus Comes to Jerusalem as King
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Post by Cindy on Oct 15, 2016 7:26:04 GMT -5
I've got to share with you something I saw last night! It was one of the Lord's precious promises to us that I've read millions of times, but last night it really hit me what He meant. I'd been reading about someone who was depressed and they used this scripture for them: “I have come into the world as light, so that whoever believes in me may not remain in darkness.” (John 12:46) We're led out of Satan's kingdom, a place of depression, darkness, fear, worry, anxiety, hate, etc and into the brilliant light of God's great love for us. If will will believe, then we will never walk in darkness again! The word "believe" hangs up a lot of people because they think it just means something we do intellectually, but it doesn't. In the bible the word "believe" includes obedience to what you believe! So you see, when we believe and obey the Lord and what He tells us in His Word, we really will never walk or "remain' in darkness again! To walk in something or remain in something or dwell in it, is to be there constantly. Instead, we will remain in His love, constantly reminding ourselves of this whenever the darkness tries to overtake us again. Isn't that sweet?
Oh, I posted the ESV translation as that's the one I first saw, but the NIV is just as wonderful: “I have come into the world as a light, so that no one who believes in me should stay in darkness.” (John 12:46)
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Post by fearnot on Oct 15, 2016 13:55:53 GMT -5
Thank you! I had not really thought of it that way.
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Post by fearnot on Oct 15, 2016 15:02:49 GMT -5
10/15/16
john 12:20-36
Jesus Predicts His Death
This will be short because more high winds and rain coming this Sat.
my application is pretty much written out for me in:
v. 25 "Anyone who loves their life will lose it, while anyone who hates their life in this world will keep it for eternal life".
This is not my true home, I need to keep reminding myself
But I had to be honest to Jesus because when I read:
v. 27 “Now my soul is troubled, and what shall I say?
‘Father, save me from this hour’?...."
I had to tell Him that is exactly what ( I think) I would say....well, I've been saying it so far...
But I am also thinking of what you just posted:
"We're led out of Satan's kingdom, a place of depression, darkness, fear, worry, anxiety, hate, etc and into the brilliant light of God's great love for us."
Anyway, instead of my help...me, me, me
Jesus answered that question:
v. 27....."No, it was for this very reason I came to this hour.
v. 28 Father, glorify your name!”
Just reading this gives my mind and hopefully plants a seed ( in my mind and heart) of a different way.
v. 24 "Very truly I tell you, unless a kernel of wheat falls to the ground and dies, it remains only a single seed.
But if it dies,
it produces many seeds.
v. 25 Anyone who loves their life will lose it, while anyone who hates their life in this world will keep it for eternal life.
v. 26 Whoever serves me must follow me; and where I am, my servant also will be."
That is enough to meditate on for the day ( with the scary wind and rain!!)
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Post by fearnot on Oct 16, 2016 12:55:24 GMT -5
10/16/16
John 12: 37-50
Belief and Unbelief Among the Jews
v. 42 is sort of a sad commentary on even some believers
( I fear, I am often counted among this bunch, unlike you)....
v. 42 "Yet at the same time many even among the leaders believed in him.
But because of the Pharisees they would not openly acknowledge their faith for fear they would be put out of the synagogue;
v. 43 for they loved human praise more than praise from God."
verses 44 & 45 are yet even more verses that have Jesus saying He is God ( unlike what the 'nay sayers try to foist on us)!
The application for me comes from v. 47 .....I need to not only hear the Word ( God's Word the Bible) but I need to 'keep' it....
and Lo and behold there is v.46
Which is what you just talked about and compliments today's application to a tee!!
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Post by fearnot on Oct 16, 2016 21:03:06 GMT -5
I wanted to let you know something kind of cool.
Last night, I was feeling a bit down and depressed about our son, Michael.
I was saying to Jesus:
" I know, that anything is possible with you, Lord, but what might begin to lead our son and daughter-in-law to the foot of the cross?
I just don't see it...tho, I know it could happen.
And that was that.....
Tho I understand, that what happened today, is no guarantee.....
Well, Today was our granddaughter Vanessa's 15th birthday.
However, strangely, Michael called me?
Normally he would have just called his sister, Hossanah and/or Vanessa....there would be no need to call us, for V's b-day.
But he said he sort of wanted to talk care of 2 things...
and he had something to tell us.
I thought, maybe they are buying a house
or
maybe they are moving
or
maybe something happened to one of their 3 kitties
or...or ...or
Now I did have another thought ( remember my question to Jesus?).
But Michael had told us long ago, they would never have children because they would not want to bring a child into this difficult world ( you have heard that before no?)
Well.......April 11th we will have our 2nd grandson ( because Jessica will have to have a C-section)!!!
I know a child is no guarantee at all, that it will bring either one of them or both to the Lord.....but children do have a way of changing things.....
The very fact, that Micahel's adamant declaration to never having children has changed, is almost like Jesus speaking to me, showing me, how indeed anything is possible with Him!!!
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Post by Cindy on Oct 17, 2016 12:15:56 GMT -5
Thank you Cindy.
I sort of feel like almost like going from 1st grade to 2nd.....this year the Lord is teaching me, about applications but the questions/talking do happen....
It even happens when watching a series ( I keep watching, then, dumping them).
But while watching, at least 2-5 times in 1/2 an hour, a Biblical principal, doctrine, or quote will come to mind.
Not only that, it's like I see a bigger picture: the use of attractive actors, humor, mystery, realism, etc. to covertly and subtly push an agenda.
I find I am reading more and more, as a result.
But next year if I pass into 3rd grade LOL will may focus on questions. I am just excited to actually be able to find applications.
I remember 20 years of more ago, going to BSF ( a Bible study that was started by one of Hudson Taylor China missionaries).
Anyway, they would often mention applications and I would always draw a complete blank, but was in complete awe when I would hear an application, but could not for the life of me, think of one myself!!!
So even tho mine may not be very advanced to me, to find any at all is astounding! I thank Jesus for letting me take even these baby steps!
Oh yes, thank you for being so specific about what talking to Jesus really means.
I had looked at a you tube video yesterday ( got there via a different video who mention this pastor).
Well the pastor had some neat insights to scripture.....but then, he started mumbling in gibberish and giving prophetic statements.....
Arrgggghhhhh
I checked and saw he was a Charismatic 'pastor' and was 'hearing/ talking ' to God....so it's not only new age sigh....its right in a branch that is 'supposed 'to be Christian ( what I mean is it calls itself Christian...I don't see it!!).
Well, I may dawdle ending a series, but I turned THAT video right OFF immediately, no dawdling!!
You ARE seeing the bigger picture, you're seeing it more like God does! You're nowhere near 2nd grade, more like going to high school at least now! If you were to say you were in 2nd grade to someone else who knows God's Word, it might be taken as false modesty as it's so obvious how you've grown. You're applications are great and no one could do better. But you're not still a baby in Christ or even just in 2nd or 3rd grade. If someone who really was a babe in Christ heard you say that, it would probably cause them to despair since they'd know they were so far behind you, and that's not good. I know you wouldn't want to discourage anyone.
Maybe if I explain the different "levels" it will help you see the truth about yourself.... what do you think?
Ok, a babe in Christ would be someone who has just gotten saved and hardly knows anything other than that all their sins have been forgiven because Jesus is God and He died on the cross for them and then rose again to prove that He could save them and is now in Heaven. That's it, that's all they really know and they go from there.
You know a tremendous amount about God's Word and have put much of it in practice, especially over the last 8 or more years. Think about Eva, she doesn't know the OT hardly at all, not even enough to recognize the names of some of the heroes of faith. You do. She's learning though, just as you have been. She's just not as advanced as you are. She's in elementary school, while you're in high school. You have a great deal of knowledge about both the old and new testament that you're now learning to apply to your life. She has to first learn all that you already know and then learn to apply it.
That's not to say that you don't have more to learn about both the old and new testaments, of course you do. So do I. So does MacArthur and all other godly pastors and teachers. The hardest thing for me to admit, was that I was becoming spiritually mature and then that I was spiritually mature. Again, I still have a long way to go, but I have grown to maturity, and you're very close behind me! It somehow seemed "wrong" for me to say that I was mature, like I couldn't be for some reason. it almost seemed blasphemous and egotistical; but the Lord showed me that it was false modesty to deny it; that I couldn't teach or counsel others the way I have been, and couldn't discern truth from lies and right from wrong etc. the way I do unless I was spiritually mature. “But solid food is for the mature, who by constant use have trained themselves to distinguish good from evil.” (Hebrews 5:14)
And what I've been giving you is not baby food, it's been meat! You haven't had baby food for many years now! You are learning to discern good from evil, right from wrong, etc through the constant use of God's Word. You have been applying His Word to your life for many years now, by taking your thoughts captive among other things. And now you're picking up so much more, not by my teaching, but just between you and the Lord! That's not what a baby does. You don't need me at all anymore and haven't for a long time. You can and have been standing on your own feet with the help and guidance of the Lord for some time now. I'm no longer your teacher, counselor, I'm just your friend and sister in Christ. Now we share with each other and learn with each other and from each other. We encourage and help each other. And now, you're doing the very same thing I did when I didn't want to admit that I'd grown up.  The bad thing about that is that it can prevent you from being able to share more with others, because you're doubting yourself and your ability. But if you think about it, you've been teaching for some time now. That's exactly what you're doing every day on this thread whether you realized it or not and babies or children in second grade, don't teach. (not to mention all the times you answer Eva's questions, and all the times you could have answered her but waited to see what I'd say instead.
Being mature doesn't mean that you know it all, or that you have all the answers, or that you understand it all well. In fact, none of us will be fully mature until we're in heaven: “until we all reach unity in the faith and in the knowledge of the Son of God and become mature, attaining to the whole measure of the fullness of Christ.” (Ephesians 4:13) But that's obviously not what's being talked about in Hebrews when we're told that solid food is for the mature. The part I underlined is our goal, one we will someday attain in Heaven but that we're to work toward now. Those working toward it and having attained what you have by now, would be considered "mature" in their faith. What we're learning is to be mature, to be adults, in our thinking. We're learning to "have the mind of Christ" and use it always about everything. “Brothers, stop thinking like children. In regard to evil be infants, but in your thinking be adults.” (1 Corinthians 14:20) The word "adults" can also be translated "mature". We're learning to apply all that we learn and put it into our minds so that we can think correctly, so that our thoughts will always be acceptable and obedient to Christ. (remember 2 Corinthians 10:5) I hate to tell you this, but you're getting to be mature in Christ! I bet that gives you a lot to chew on!
10/14/16
John 12:1-19
Jesus Anointed at Bethany
It's really strange, I thought I knew the details of this event, but here it says it happened in the home of Mary, Martha and Lazarus's home.
Secondly, I must have forgotten v. 10 & 11, that:
v.10 "...the chief priests made plans to kill Lazarus as well, v.11 "for on account of him many of the Jews were going over to Jesus and believing in him"
A kind of strange application would be for me to 'count the cost' of being healed by the Lord because not all people would be happy for me.
The second part is devoted to:
Jesus Comes to Jerusalem as King
That's an interesting application, though I'm not sure how it would help....I don't think Lazarus would have asked Jesus not to raise him because others wanted him dead; after all the Lord did what was His Will, therefore if you or anyone is healed, it's only because it is God's Will, not because it's our will.....
Considering the expense of the perfume Mary used to anoint Jesus, I'd think a good application would be that Jesus should mean more to us than any amount of money or any earthly thing..... In fact, I think that's what you said before about this lol
Thank you! I had not really thought of it that way.
10/15/16
john 12:20-36
Jesus Predicts His Death
This will be short because more high winds and rain coming this Sat.
my application is pretty much written out for me in:
v. 25 "Anyone who loves their life will lose it, while anyone who hates their life in this world will keep it for eternal life".
This is not my true home, I need to keep reminding myself
But I had to be honest to Jesus because when I read:
v. 27 “Now my soul is troubled, and what shall I say?
‘Father, save me from this hour’?...."
I had to tell Him that is exactly what ( I think) I would say....well, I've been saying it so far...
But I am also thinking of what you just posted:
"We're led out of Satan's kingdom, a place of depression, darkness, fear, worry, anxiety, hate, etc and into the brilliant light of God's great love for us."
Anyway, instead of my help...me, me, me
Jesus answered that question:
v. 27....."No, it was for this very reason I came to this hour.
v. 28 Father, glorify your name!”
Just reading this gives my mind and hopefully plants a seed ( in my mind and heart) of a different way.
v. 24 "Very truly I tell you, unless a kernel of wheat falls to the ground and dies, it remains only a single seed.
But if it dies,
it produces many seeds.
v. 25 Anyone who loves their life will lose it, while anyone who hates their life in this world will keep it for eternal life.
v. 26 Whoever serves me must follow me; and where I am, my servant also will be."
That is enough to meditate on for the day ( with the scary wind and rain!!)
I hope you're safe and snug!
10/16/16
John 12: 37-50
Belief and Unbelief Among the Jews
v. 42 is sort of a sad commentary on even some believers
( I fear, I am often counted among this bunch, unlike you)....
v. 42 "Yet at the same time many even among the leaders believed in him.
But because of the Pharisees they would not openly acknowledge their faith for fear they would be put out of the synagogue;
v. 43 for they loved human praise more than praise from God."
verses 44 & 45 are yet even more verses that have Jesus saying He is God ( unlike what the 'nay sayers try to foist on us)!
The application for me comes from v. 47 .....I need to not only hear the Word ( God's Word the Bible) but I need to 'keep' it....
and Lo and behold there is v.46
Which is what you just talked about and compliments today's application to a tee!!
 I loved it when the Lord showed me that!
I wanted to let you know something kind of cool.
Last night, I was feeling a bit down and depressed about our son, Michael.
I was saying to Jesus:
" I know, that anything is possible with you, Lord, but what might begin to lead our son and daughter-in-law to the foot of the cross?
I just don't see it...tho, I know it could happen.
And that was that.....
Tho I understand, that what happened today, is no guarantee.....
Well, Today was our granddaughter Vanessa's 15th birthday.
However, strangely, Michael called me?
Normally he would have just called his sister, Hossanah and/or Vanessa....there would be no need to call us, for V's b-day.
But he said he sort of wanted to talk care of 2 things...
and he had something to tell us.
I thought, maybe they are buying a house
or
maybe they are moving
or
maybe something happened to one of their 3 kitties
or...or ...or
Now I did have another thought ( remember my question to Jesus?).
But Michael had told us long ago, they would never have children because they would not want to bring a child into this difficult world ( you have heard that before no?)
Well.......April 11th we will have our 2nd grandson ( because Jessica will have to have a C-section)!!!
I know a child is no guarantee at all, that it will bring either one of them or both to the Lord.....but children do have a way of changing things.....
The very fact, that Micahel's adamant declaration to never having children has changed, is almost like Jesus speaking to me, showing me, how indeed anything is possible with Him!!!
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Post by fearnot on Oct 17, 2016 13:29:21 GMT -5
I feel a little like Moses ( who claimed he was no public speaker...so to speak....until God finally says fine.... Arron can do the talking!)
Or Abraham trying to get to the lowest number of believer's that God would save Sodom etc.
So okay.....not 2nd grade....middle school LOL
But actually I was sort of thinking:
first grade was like: reading, studying and mediating on God's Word
and second grade was: working on applications
and 3rd grade would be asking question about God's Word.
ect,
4th grade might be things like a ministry
But truly thank you so much for explaining what a 'baby' Christian is and what a more mature Christian is.
Besides the thrill of another grandson coming...
the fact that our son and daughter-in-law are going to have a child....is that it is a chink in their 'world view' that has been altered.....from never ever...to yes
There could only be one thing that would have been more thrilling and exciting ( I may not live to hear it) but for them to trust in Jesus for paying for their sins and be saved.
Sill, this feels like a mini miracle.....I was astounded.
They both were 'goths'
can you imagine, our daughter- in- law is a PHD scientist... running the college lab... at 35 (or is she 36 now),
They are into under ground music and are major liberals
She is a feminist etc etc.
Son is working for a computer company,
they have 3 cats ( they children up to now)
So you get the idea....children had no place in this marriage......
until.... it did!
I told my son, well, they have 3 built in babysitters....the cats LOL
If God could change their view on having a child.....there is hope ( I know the older people get, the less likely it is they will come to our Lord.....but it is NOT impossible.
I also know not to count on death bed conversions, one could die suddenly and expectantly young or middle age......
still, it does happen from time to time.
Tho certainly not my choice, I still love that our Savior Jesus, saved one thief on the Cross.....that thief had been a sinner right up to being hung on a cross, and he had done nothing for the Lord....but praise God, he was saved!
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Post by fearnot on Oct 17, 2016 13:41:16 GMT -5
"I don't think Lazarus would have asked Jesus not to raise him because others wanted him dead;"
No I agree, I was thinking more along the lines, that I need to remember, that even when God blesses me....there may be a cost of belonging to the Lord.
I love being blessed by Jesus ( and I know we will have trials and tribulations in this world)
but
I also like, being liked.
So I was thinking that there can even be a cost even when blessed by Jesus.....others may be jealous, annoyed, angry, hateful etc.
I always thought of counting the 'cost' along the lines of maybe being poor ( not by choice necessarily), or having physical problems, or persecuted etc.
But I hadn't thought persecution might come, if, instead of a trial, Jesus would bless me, with say, a physical healing or something ( not that I expect that ...just saying, some sort of blessing).
No I wouldn't expect anyone to not ask Jesus for a blessing just because they wanted to avoid being hated....but to be aware, that it could happen ( count the cost).
I know about jealously, but I am also somewhat naive and think people would be happy for someone's blessing... and might even ask ( instead of being jealous) how might they too get blessed.
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Post by fearnot on Oct 17, 2016 14:26:14 GMT -5
10/17/16
John 13: 1-17
Jesus Washes His Disciples’ Feet
I don't even have to search for an application in this passage, it is already laid out for me!
It is not really about 'washing feet'. but about having a 'servant's heart'.
v. 15 "I have set you an example that you should do as I have done for you. 16 Very truly I tell you, no servant is greater than his master..."
The 2nd half of verse one is so nice:
"....Having loved his own who were in the world, he loved them to the end".
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Post by Cindy on Oct 18, 2016 13:01:10 GMT -5
I feel a little like Moses ( who claimed he was no public speaker...so to speak....until God finally says fine.... Arron can do the talking!)
Or Abraham trying to get to the lowest number of believer's that God would save Sodom etc.
So okay.....not 2nd grade....middle school LOL
But actually I was sort of thinking:
first grade was like: reading, studying and mediating on God's Word
and second grade was: working on applications
and 3rd grade would be asking question about God's Word.
ect,
4th grade might be things like a ministry
But truly thank you so much for explaining what a 'baby' Christian is and what a more mature Christian is.
Besides the thrill of another grandson coming...
the fact that our son and daughter-in-law are going to have a child....is that it is a chink in their 'world view' that has been altered.....from never ever...to yes
There could only be one thing that would have been more thrilling and exciting ( I may not live to hear it) but for them to trust in Jesus for paying for their sins and be saved.
Sill, this feels like a mini miracle.....I was astounded.
They both were 'goths'
can you imagine, our daughter- in- law is a PHD scientist... running the college lab... at 35 (or is she 36 now),
They are into under ground music and are major liberals
She is a feminist etc etc.
Son is working for a computer company,
they have 3 cats ( they children up to now)
So you get the idea....children had no place in this marriage......
until.... it did!
I told my son, well, they have 3 built in babysitters....the cats LOL
If God could change their view on having a child.....there is hope ( I know the older people get, the less likely it is they will come to our Lord.....but it is NOT impossible.
I also know not to count on death bed conversions, one could die suddenly and expectantly young or middle age......
still, it does happen from time to time.
Tho certainly not my choice, I still love that our Savior Jesus, saved one thief on the Cross.....that thief had been a sinner right up to being hung on a cross, and he had done nothing for the Lord....but praise God, he was saved!
I hope you weren't upset that I told you that you're really becoming mature and in no way are you even close to being "young" in the Lord. I certainly didn't mean to upset you, I only wanted to encourage you and help you accept where you are......
I'm very happy for you about the coming baby and think like you do that it's a great sign that the Lord will eventually have His way with them!
"I don't think Lazarus would have asked Jesus not to raise him because others wanted him dead;"
No I agree, I was thinking more along the lines, that I need to remember, that even when God blesses me....there may be a cost of belonging to the Lord.
I love being blessed by Jesus ( and I know we will have trials and tribulations in this world)
but
I also like, being liked.
So I was thinking that there can even be a cost even when blessed by Jesus.....others may be jealous, annoyed, angry, hateful etc.
I always thought of counting the 'cost' along the lines of maybe being poor ( not by choice necessarily), or having physical problems, or persecuted etc.
But I hadn't thought persecution might come, if, instead of a trial, Jesus would bless me, with say, a physical healing or something ( not that I expect that ...just saying, some sort of blessing).
No I wouldn't expect anyone to not ask Jesus for a blessing just because they wanted to avoid being hated....but to be aware, that it could happen ( count the cost).
I know about jealously, but I am also somewhat naive and think people would be happy for someone's blessing... and might even ask ( instead of being jealous) how might they too get blessed.
10/17/16
John 12: 1-17
Jesus Washes His Disciples’ Feet
I don't even have to search for an application in this passage, it is already laid out for me!
It is not really about 'washing feet'. but about having a 'servant's heart'.
v. 15 "I have set you an example that you should do as I have done for you. 16 Very truly I tell you, no servant is greater than his master..."
The 2nd half of verse one is so nice:
"....Having loved his own who were in the world, he loved them to the end".
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Post by fearnot on Oct 18, 2016 18:37:16 GMT -5
No I was not upset at all about your saying I was maturing ( well, only one thing, I always get a wee bit fearful we won't be doing Bible study together).
Did I somehow seem upset?
Maybe just because I kept talking about it?
I sent Eva a PM about a week ago or less, but have not heard back. I sure hope she is okay.....it is worrisome when you don't hear anything at all for over a month.
I know she may be super busy...work, and perhaps moving....
but when I don't hear for awhile, I start thinking, is she sick, hurt etc.
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Post by fearnot on Oct 18, 2016 18:48:02 GMT -5
10/18/16
John 13:18-30
Jesus Predicts His Betrayal
v.19 is an encouragement and application to continue studying the Bible because one reason is a road map or blue print of what is going to happen and when it does it will build my faith
v. 19 “I am telling you now before it happens, so that when it does happen you will believe that I am who I am."
This is a sad passage tho otherwise.
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Post by Cindy on Oct 19, 2016 10:17:16 GMT -5
No I was not upset at all about your saying I was maturing ( well, only one thing, I always get a wee bit fearful we won't be doing Bible study together).
Did I somehow seem upset?
Maybe just because I kept talking about it?
I sent Eva a PM about a week ago or less, but have not heard back. I sure hope she is okay.....it is worrisome when you don't hear anything at all for over a month.
I know she may be super busy...work, and perhaps moving....
but when I don't hear for awhile, I start thinking, is she sick, hurt etc.
Didn't she say she might not have the internet for awhile when moving? Or maybe that was just my own thoughts as a lot of folks don't when they're "in between" houses.... But yes, it is worrisome. I hope she does come back soon as I'd like to get back to the rapture, but want to wait till she's had a chance to read whats already been written....10/18/16
John 13:18-30
Jesus Predicts His Betrayal
v.19 is an encouragement and application to continue studying the Bible because one reason is a road map or blue print of what is going to happen and when it does it will build my faith
v. 19 “I am telling you now before it happens, so that when it does happen you will believe that I am who I am."
This is a sad passage tho otherwise.
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Post by fearnot on Oct 19, 2016 10:49:51 GMT -5
Thank you for your kind encouragement Cindy.
I for ( got to thank you yesterday for your comment about people and salvation as they age.
I think I got the idea that if people were not saved young, their hearts and minds continued to harden the longer time went on.
But I do believe you are right, that many people also start to get a totally different perspective as old age and death speed ever closer. The 'joys' of the life of a rebel starts to lose it luster for many, tho surely not all).
Perhaps unfortunately 'good health' can in some case prolong the 'rebel without a cause' ( a movie I think?).
Nevertheless, I am sooooooo glad you wrote that many do begin to think about what happens at death and after and may begin to think about God seriously.
It seems like the Lord provides various 'big' things ( as well as many many small) things in life that can change a person stroll to helland start them on the path to Jesus, and Heaven....actually loving another person instead of self, having children, getting sick, losing 'everything', getting old etc.
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Post by fearnot on Oct 19, 2016 11:19:10 GMT -5
10/19/16
John 13:31-38
Jesus Predicts Peter’s Denial
Some applications have to be searched for but some are placed in plain sight, and today's is not only an application but a new commandment!
v. 34 “A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another.
v. 35 By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another.”
I think it is easy to mistake this as an 'easy' commandment, Jesus is not asking me to walk on hot coals, or suffer torture etc. Yet for me, I know, this is not as easy at it might seem to me at first, because I am so self-centered.
For me this is an application ( commandment) that would take e a life time to apply and I would never be able to do it 100 percent (well no where close), just like I continue to sin on a daily basis ( even tho I hate it).
In a way v. 37 and 38 demonstrate the problem. I think Peter really wanted to be able to lay down his life for Jesus....
but self-centeredness and self preservation proved to be peter's down fall. I often relate a LOT to Peter.
v. 37 "Peter asked, “Lord, why can’t I follow you now? I will lay down my life for you.”
38 Then Jesus answered, “Will you really lay down your life for me? Very truly I tell you, before the rooster crows, you will disown me three times!"
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Post by Cindy on Oct 20, 2016 10:50:45 GMT -5
Thank you for your kind encouragement Cindy.
I for ( got to thank you yesterday for your comment about people and salvation as they age.
I think I got the idea that if people were not saved young, their hearts and minds continued to harden the longer time went on.
But I do believe you are right, that many people also start to get a totally different perspective as old age and death speed ever closer. The 'joys' of the life of a rebel starts to lose it luster for many, tho surely not all).
Perhaps unfortunately 'good health' can in some case prolong the 'rebel without a cause' ( a movie I think?).
Nevertheless, I am sooooooo glad you wrote that many do begin to think about what happens at death and after and may begin to think about God seriously.
It seems like the Lord provides various 'big' things ( as well as many many small) things in life that can change a person stroll to helland start them on the path to Jesus, and Heaven....actually loving another person instead of self, having children, getting sick, losing 'everything', getting old etc.
10/19/16
John 13:31-38
Jesus Predicts Peter’s Denial
Some applications have to be searched for but some are placed in plain sight, and today's is not only an application but a new commandment!
v. 34 “A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another.
v. 35 By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another.”
I think it is easy to mistake this as an 'easy' commandment, Jesus is not asking me to walk on hot coals, or suffer torture etc. Yet for me, I know, this is not as easy at it might seem to me at first, because I am so self-centered.
For me this is an application ( commandment) that would take e a life time to apply and I would never be able to do it 100 percent (well no where close), just like I continue to sin on a daily basis ( even tho I hate it).
In a way v. 37 and 38 demonstrate the problem. I think Peter really wanted to be able to lay down his life for Jesus....
but self-centeredness and self preservation proved to be peter's down fall. I often relate a LOT to Peter.
v. 37 "Peter asked, “Lord, why can’t I follow you now? I will lay down my life for you.”
38 Then Jesus answered, “Will you really lay down your life for me? Very truly I tell you, before the rooster crows, you will disown me three times!"
I was reflecting on this last night and it made me think of what Jesus said: “If someone forces you to go one mile, go with him two miles.” (Matthew 5:41) This is one of those scriptures where knowing some history helps you understand it better. Roman soldiers were allowed to force Jew's to walk as far as a mile with them, and could also make them carry whatever they had with them. In the past, many Jew's because they hated the Romans, would give them false directions when they were asked, which of course just made the Roman's angry. So they used the law that said they could force the Jew's to walk as far as a mile when they needed directions and would have the Jew take them to where they wanted to go. That way if they tried to mislead them, they would get the beating of their lives and then would still have to take them to the right place! So when Jesus said this, that's what He was thinking of. If the hated Roman soldier asked you to walk that mile with him, you were to not only do that, but you were to continue to find ways to be helpful to him, to show him that you cared about him and felt his concerns were more important than your own. (Phil 2:3-5 etc) This is why Jesus said that people would know that we belonged to Him by our love and that love was exactly what drew people to the early Christians. Unbelievers couldn't understand how they could be kind to so many people who hated them, and actually love them. I'm sure it was the talk of every community they were in. People thought they must be crazy, but at the same time, especially once they'd experienced that love themselves, they wanted what those early Christians had!
I also realized yesterday that all 13 verses in 1 Corinthians are talking about love. That includes 1 Corinthians 13:9–12. So when we get to Heaven, we will finally be able to really love perfectly just like God loves us.
Sadly, just as Jesus told us, love has grown cold in our day and generally isn't what others see in Christians anymore. Most Christians today aren't much different from unbelievers as far as loving others goes. So this is what I've been concentrating on for some time now, asking the Lord to change my heart and make me see and love others the way He does. Thanks to Him, I have noticed a little bit of a change, but not nearly enough. I guess I'm impatient, but I truly desire to love everyone like He does..... Since I don't get out a lot, I'm working on loving those people I see or hear about on TV, including the presidential candidates. Seriously though, I figure that's as good a place to start as any. Used to be whenever I'd see them I'd get upset and angry because of them being so obviously against all that God says. Now though, I'm trying to cover their faults with love and just love them anyway, the way God loves me. Can't say I've been successful yet, but I'm working on it with His help! Of course my major project is my husband. You'd think that would be easy since I obviously do love Him, but I love him with the world's kind of love as that's how we all love at first. I've been trying for a long time now to change it to God's way of loving and I have made some progress there at least, but still have a long way to go. But I'm hoping that as I keep practicing, that loving God's way will become more of a habit instead of the world's way... know what I mean?
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Post by fearnot on Oct 20, 2016 13:16:41 GMT -5
I have noticed a much more kind and tender heart......you always had it,
but I have noticed your love has increased very greatly!!!
I understand what you mean for sure!!
We have been praying for presidential candidates ( and I do pray for many actors and actresses also). Hummmm I wonder if Seven does that? She watches a LOT of TV or computer etc. it might be a ministry for her.
Because surely most of them need a great deal of prayer....in a way they were blessed with beauty, talent, etc. and many people 'worship' them.....which makes them more needy of true love ( the love of Jesus) than others.
I just read last night a short little blurp by Ron Howard's daughter
( he played Opie when he was a child actor).
( he and his wife also had twin daughters).
She told how at age 4 her parents moved their children from L.A. to Conn so that they might avoid the spoiled brat rich actors kids syndrome.
Her mom was so into keeping them normal that she bought the kids new clothes once every 3 years ( this sounded sooooo much like my adopted mom LOL)
She would buy the clothes BIG....so they could 'grow into them'.
Then she would hem the clothes up, and as the girls grew would let the hems down.
One day the school called their mom in to say the girls clothes were a little 'tattered'....their mother said:
Soooooo?????
They are children!!!
There was also a photo of the girls on their Conn farm with pretend 'pig' noses on as they played with one of their many farm animals.... the 'pot bellied pig'.............
but then......
one day......
the pot belly grew tusks!!!
Ron either took the pig to the vets or the vet came out and stated"
"That is NOT a pot belly pig
That....
is a BOAR LOLOL
But most actors and actresses and their children do not live that kind of life....they are adored.
They must always be dressed in whatever is the fashion, hair done, makeup, beautiful home, a fleet of cars, and body guards, cooks, work out coaches photo hounds always snapping their pics, fancy dinning, parties, sex, drugs, booze, etc etc etc.
so I think that is a great idea to pray for them along with so many others like even Hilary ( which is even harder than Donald)
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Post by fearnot on Oct 20, 2016 13:42:00 GMT -5
10/20/16
John 14:1-14
Jesus Comforts His Disciples
Jesus the Way to the Father
There are soooo many neat verses in just these 14!!
Like: the Father's house having many rooms being prepared for us!
But even better than that is:
v.3 "And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back and take you to be with me that you also may be where I am."
I think it is correct to say that we can pray for anything in God's will, ( Not something Evil that would be demonic will)....
Therefore once again the application is already written out for me:
v. 14 "You may ask me for anything in my name, and I will do it."
Hence, I need to not be shy about praying ( for anything in God's will)>
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Post by Cindy on Oct 21, 2016 11:10:04 GMT -5
I have noticed a much more kind and tender heart......you always had it,
but I have noticed your love has increased very greatly!!!
I understand what you mean for sure!!
We have been praying for presidential candidates ( and I do pray for many actors and actresses also). Hummmm I wonder if Seven does that? She watches a LOT of TV or computer etc. it might be a ministry for her.
Because surely most of them need a great deal of prayer....in a way they were blessed with beauty, talent, etc. and many people 'worship' them.....which makes them more needy of true love ( the love of Jesus) than others.
I just read last night a short little blurp by Ron Howard's daughter
( he played Opie when he was a child actor).
( he and his wife also had twin daughters).
She told how at age 4 her parents moved their children from L.A. to Conn so that they might avoid the spoiled brat rich actors kids syndrome.
Her mom was so into keeping them normal that she bought the kids new clothes once every 3 years ( this sounded sooooo much like my adopted mom LOL)
She would buy the clothes BIG....so they could 'grow into them'.
Then she would hem the clothes up, and as the girls grew would let the hems down.
One day the school called their mom in to say the girls clothes were a little 'tattered'....their mother said:
Soooooo?????
They are children!!!
There was also a photo of the girls on their Conn farm with pretend 'pig' noses on as they played with one of their many farm animals.... the 'pot bellied pig'.............
but then......
one day......
the pot belly grew tusks!!!
Ron either took the pig to the vets or the vet came out and stated"
"That is NOT a pot belly pig
That....
is a BOAR LOLOL
But most actors and actresses and their children do not live that kind of life....they are adored.
They must always be dressed in whatever is the fashion, hair done, makeup, beautiful home, a fleet of cars, and body guards, cooks, work out coaches photo hounds always snapping their pics, fancy dinning, parties, sex, drugs, booze, etc etc etc.
so I think that is a great idea to pray for them along with so many others like even Hilary ( which is even harder than Donald)
I think it's great you pray for so many people! It shows me again how the Lord keeps everyone covered in prayer!
10/20/16
John 14:1-14
Jesus Comforts His Disciples
Jesus the Way to the Father
There are soooo many neat verses in just these 14!!
Like: the Father's house having many rooms being prepared for us!
But even better than that is:
v.3 "And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back and take you to be with me that you also may be where I am."
I think it is correct to say that we can pray for anything in God's will, ( Not something Evil that would be demonic will)....
Therefore once again the application is already written out for me:
v. 14 "You may ask me for anything in my name, and I will do it."
Hence, I need to not be shy about praying ( for anything in God's will)>
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Post by fearnot on Oct 21, 2016 11:33:14 GMT -5
Reading your post ( and reading the verses about the Lord coming back), I couldn't help but say: Come back, and take me with you!
I am so glad we are doing this thread.
I always have a bit of a problem with getting a little depressed in the dark, cold, windy grey winter months ( some days are worse and some days are better)
But it is so encouraging to come here and read your posts....I know you will be here ( almost every day.....but in a few days for sure)
Of course, I do pray and talk to Jesus and ask His help, but coming here is an added upbeat bright spot.... especially if its a day I am struggling....once in awhile, when I almost don't want to get up,
but then, I want to read your post.... so I do get up LOL.
Actually so far this fall/winter I am doing better than I may ever have.....but I still have had a few mornings of feeling down or blue.
I start praying but once in a while it is still a struggle....I know I have to take my depression/thoughts captive....but sometimes its like fighting a war and is so tiring. I just read something in today's scripture that is a big help.....
This is the first year I have suet hanging so I can watch the birds outside my window which is cool.
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Post by fearnot on Oct 21, 2016 11:54:26 GMT -5
10/21/16
John 14: 15-31
Jesus Promises the Holy Spirit
It's strange I was talking about feeling more blue in the winter and how it is a struggle some mornings and then these verses were very helpful!!!
First: I have another advocate:
v.16 "........another advocate to help you and be with you forever—
v. 17 the Spirit of truth."
and another encouragement:
v.18 "I will not leave you as orphans; I will come to you."
v.19 "......Because I live, you also will live. "
v. 27 "Peace I leave with you; my peace I give you.
I do not give to you as the world gives.
Do not let your hearts be troubled and do not be afraid."
There was one slightly scary part tho....
v.30....." for the prince of this world is coming".
But then the very last verse was uplifting to me because although Jesus was talking to the disciples in real time, to me it reminded me that He is coming back to rapture us ( me) so I could almost hear Him saying to me:
v.31 ".......“Come now; let us leave."
Again the application was already supplied:
v. 21 "Whoever has my commands and keeps them is the one who loves me. The one who loves me will be loved by my Father, and I too will love them and show myself to them.”
And the Lord expanded on it a bit more:
v. 23 "Jesus replied, “Anyone who loves me will obey my teaching. My Father will love them, and we will come to them and make our home with them."
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Post by fearnot on Oct 22, 2016 13:14:14 GMT -5
This morning I listened to a MacArthur sermon on Hell.
He mentioned a few things that were really helpful for me to understand.
I am so glad he dealt with the issue of why is it just that God punishes sinners for sins in what is a short temporal time...for all eternity?
I must admit I always wondered that....I just decided that because I know God is just that it had to be just.
However MacArthur pointed out several things.....
It's not that people sin on earth and refuse Jesus and then go to hell and pay for their earthly sins forever.....
He pointed out that hell is not remedial. In other words people don't go their and realize how wrong they were, and cry out: I am so sorry, I was wrong, yes I deserve to be here......
No.....they continue to rebel.....they curse God, they hate Him, are bitter, etc etc.
So even, If, they could... they would never be able to pay for their sins by being there.... because they continue to sin, worse and worse.
In face, MacArthur thinks sinners sin more in hell, than on earth because there is no restraint.
I was thinking, that if someone wanted to be a mass murdered, for example ( for a nice long life time)....
if they went out in board daylight and started killing, soon police etc. would come and gun them down....
so they have to restrain their sin, so they can continue for their life....
but in hell whatever their pet sins,
there is no such restraint.
Not that they can kill other in hell but sin starts in the mind and heart. ( my thoughts, not what MacArthur actually said)
So God is just.....just as I knew, but that was a great help to me!!
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Post by fearnot on Oct 22, 2016 13:23:43 GMT -5
10/22/16
John 15: 1-17
There are at least 3 applications in this passage:
v.4 " Remain in me, as I also remain in you."
That sort of ties into:
v. 10 "If you keep my commands, you will remain in my love, ..."
to me I think that means stay in His Word the Bible, keep it in my heart and mind and apply it to my life, and be able to speak to the Lord ( some times in His language....His words).
and also
v. 17 "This is my command: Love each other".
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Post by fearnot on Oct 23, 2016 15:42:04 GMT -5
10/23/16
John 15:18-25
The World Hates the Disciples
This is not the exact message I want to hear, but I already know it is true.
Of course, sometimes (often?), the 'hatred' is deserved because I am a sinner....
and perhaps, in the past, I really bungled explaining the gospel.
However, I know there were times when it was Jesus and the gospel and the fact of my relationship that caused the great anger/hatred.
In fact, Jesus goes on to say:
"As it is, you do not belong to the world, but I have chosen you out of the world.
That is why the world hates you."
And there are several applications:
I am to keep this in mind when I tend to whine about being hated by the world:
v.18 "...keep in mind that it hated me first."
and also I am to remember:
v.20 Remember what I told you:
‘A servant is not greater than his master.’
If they persecuted me, they will persecute you also.
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Besides which, the only purpose of the questions, were to get you to think about what you're reading and talk to the Lord about it, the way you'd talk to any friend about something they knew about - to get you to have a better idea that He is right there with you when you're reading His Word and that He wants you to understand it and really will help you. 
The bad thing about that is that it can prevent you from being able to share more with others, because you're doubting yourself and your ability. But if you think about it, you've been teaching for some time now. That's exactly what you're doing every day on this thread whether you realized it or not and babies or children in second grade, don't teach. 
I loved it when the Lord showed me that!
