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Post by fearnot on Jul 27, 2016 12:19:26 GMT -5
I am still using NIV. I don't know if Biblegateway has changed the word that would be in the book NIV? Here I will cut and paste from BibleGateway Mark 7 ( not all of it some verses with defile):
That Which Defiles
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v.1 The Pharisees and some of the teachers of the law who had come from Jerusalem gathered around Jesus 2 and saw some of his disciples eating food with hands that were defiled
v. 5 So the Pharisees and teachers of the law asked Jesus, “Why don’t your disciples live according to the tradition of the elders instead of eating their food with defiled hands?
14 Again Jesus called the crowd to him and said, “Listen to me, everyone, and understand this. 15 Nothing outside a person can defile them by going into them. Rather, it is what comes out of a person that defiles them.”
Anyway, you get the idea...this is from BibleGateway..... NIV version????
Does your Biblegateway NIV use unclean then? That would be kinda strange if it uses different words for different computers? Odd huh?
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Post by fearnot on Jul 27, 2016 12:39:01 GMT -5
So I went back and looked at the list:
v. 21"...sexual immorality, theft, murder, 22 adultery, greed, malice, deceit, lewdness, envy, slander, arrogance and folly.
And although I never murdered anyone ( once or twice in the past tho, I thought maybe the world would be better if so and so died.....I know now to pray for that person, but since Jesus said even 'thoughts' can be sin.....
I don't think I ever was lewd in the legal sense, but remember I told you about posing for an artist, and then for his class, and in college.....so maybe not in man's legal sense but in God's eyes I think that counts?
As I re-read the list, I think I probably have been guilty of all but maybe malice....I never planned to deliberately take away someone's life.....
Oh but I remember when I was in college, and I knew the black panthers, and Chicago 7 etc. I would parrot the 'party line' ( not really knowing or truly believing ) that if the top 100 richest people in us died, all would be great.
I think it was some sort of Marxist/Mao double speak....I really had no idea what I was blathering about....but nevertheless, I must have repeated that at least once, to look hip and cool back then....so I fear if I had never been saved God would have held me accountable.
And so, even now, I have to be careful, not to even 'think' such thoughts ( like if so and so died ) I need to always take such evil thoughts captive.
Oh I should mention I did pray and talk to Jesus a lot before my appointment to see my PCP and it went well. The doc wrote 6 months worth of prescriptions, so I don't see him for 6 months yeah!!
( He dated all the prescriptions so there is no problem).
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Post by fearnot on Jul 27, 2016 15:32:45 GMT -5
Today Wednesday July 27th I read Mark 7:24-30
These verses are about a woman with a young child possessed by a demon.
Right there is a scary thought, because my first inclination is to think, a person only gets demon possessed over time ( when they are a teen or older), not as a young child, because usually young child have not reached an age of accountability.
Nevertheless, here is a case of a young child. What is scary is, I wonder if today, maybe more and more young children ( at younger ages) might be becoming possessed thru, movies, videos, music, school, etc.
However, this passage gets stranger!
It seems like Jesus does not immediately grant her request. Now some might think that is mean, but God is not our genii who must do our bidding the moment we ask.
And perhaps because she was a gentile, she may have thought he was some kind of powerful magician, and by not granting her request immediately, she had time to begin to realize, who Jesus really was?
But the most difficult part is yet to come. It at least at first seems like Jesus was very hurtful by calling her a 'dog'! I know Jesus was not and never will be mean so there has to be some other reason.
I asked Jesus about it but it seemed like no answer was coming immediately ( so of like He did not answer the woman request on command).
Soooo I read some commentaries, and I still do feel I have a totally clear picture.
One did make a partial explanation,saying two things. One was that even in our culture, we use 'dog' symbolism speaking of humans in lots of ways, that are not racists, degrading etc.
We may say someone is the 'top dog', or a person is dog tired, or they work like a dog etc. none of these is degrading.
Arrgghh I forgot the 2nd thing, tho I do remember he mention, people who have pet dogs, often pamper and love them, and throw them tasty bits of 'crumbs' from their table.
Oh and this commentator pointed out that Jesus was explaining to her that He came to to Jews first, to see if they would accept their Messiah, but later if they refused ( which most did), then it would be the gentiles.
Yet, I have told Jesus, I still feel something is missing to understanding, ( and to be able to explain it to someone, who might ask) because this seems to be a passage that can be easily misunderstood.
I am not sure, but I thought the Jews did in fact, have a very low opinion of dogs, (perhaps they were unclean?)so someone might throw that up also.
By the way, thank you so much for your encouragement about my chat with my granddaughter. For her to have said, I gave her some things to think on was huge, and I really felt, that could have only been because Jesus was in fact, helping me.
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Post by fearnot on Jul 28, 2016 14:19:56 GMT -5
Today Thursday July 28th I read Mark 7:31-37
So the first thing I asked Jesus about was where was Decapoli and He said to look at a map LOL..... So I did and learned it was really a region of 10 cities.
Anyway, people brought a man who was deaf and who could barely talk.
Once again Jesus does an unusual miracle.....because it involves spitting ( he also spit to allow a blind person to enable that person to have sight).
I know I asked you once before about it Cindy, and you explained it, but now I don't remember. sigh!
I always associate spitting as some horrible icky nasty way of disrespecting a person....tho I think if anyone must have to spit on me, Jesus spit would be Holy and not disgusting.
I think the application for me, is not to apply the world's standards to anything, that God may choose, to heal me ( not even just physically).
I did a search of the Bible on spit and in most cases it was a way of disrespecting a person, but our ways are not God's, and God's way are not ours.
I am resisting the temptation to read some commentaries on it, until I hear from you. You may say pray some more about it or that to read a commentary would be fine or tell yet again why did Jesus use spit to heal.
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Post by evafromgreece on Jul 28, 2016 15:53:15 GMT -5
In John chapter 13 Jesus teaches us to be humble and put aside our ego. Its not the first time to teach us to be humble. From His birth, to His crucifixion, He taught us how humble we should be. We are not like Him, but unfortunatelly, we as humans tend to fall into the sin of having pride... In verse 34 He insists that we should love others the way He loves us. In chapter 14:12-14 He tells us that if we truly have faith, we can do similar things to those He has done on earth! And in 21 that if we follow his commandments the Holy Spirit will live to our soul and guide us and we will live in peace (verse 27). All the above He summarizes in 15:9-17. So if somebody asks us "How we should live", we can easily answer with these 2 chapters. Very good. You said that chapter 14 tells you that if we follow His commandments that the Holy Spirit will live in us and guide us and we will live in peace. Does that mean that when we sin and do not obey Him that the Holy Spirit leaves us?
No, I think the Holy Spirit makes us notice the sin so we dont feel convenient and ok living with this, or better the Holy Spirit reveals the sin, so we are going to repent as soon as possible.
I also do not see where it says that if we follow His commandments that we will live in peace. Instead, Jesus is saying that He gives us His peace, not that we will have a peaceful life, but instead that we will have peace with God and can also have God's peace in our hearts no matter how bad things are in our life.
“But the Counselor, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have said to you. Peace I leave with you; my peace I give you. I do not give to you as the world gives. Do not let your hearts be troubled and do not be afraid.” (John 14:26–27) Yes, I didnt mean that we are not going to have any problems. I expressed it differently.
So again, what did you get from these chapters that you can apply to your life now?
Hm... Because we are not greater than Him, who was way more humble than we are, I am focusing on this. Maybe sometimes my ego is still there, even if I do not realize it, so this is a good lesson.
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Post by evafromgreece on Jul 28, 2016 16:00:33 GMT -5
Guys, I am on John chapter 16. In 1-4, was Jesus reffering to the trials of the disciples after His ressurection, or He talks also about something else I dont see? also from 13-15, what does these verses mean? I cannot be more specific in what I dont understand. Could you please tell me in simple words the meaning? The Holy Spirit will speak about the future and will reveal the glory of the Son of God, is this the meaning?
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Post by fearnot on Jul 28, 2016 20:52:26 GMT -5
As always I will defer to Cindy because she has spent waaaaay more time with the Lord than I.
That said, I will go out on a limb and say that it could be that 1-4 has a dual/double meaning time wise.
The first meaning I think is for those Christians living at that time. However, I believe that God's Word, often seems to have 2 time lines in view.
So the 2nd meaning could be for those who live after, but perhaps especially for the end times.
I 'think' I might understand 13-15, but since I already made a stab at 1-4, I will leave them....I would hate to mess up both LOL
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Post by Cindy on Jul 29, 2016 13:19:45 GMT -5
Sorry I couldn't get here yesterday. The internet was down when I woke up and we didn't get it back till around supper time last night. I have no idea what caused it, but I'm sure glad it got fixed! I am still using NIV. I don't know if Biblegateway has changed the word that would be in the book NIV? Here I will cut and paste from BibleGateway Mark 7 ( not all of it some verses with defile):
That Which Defiles
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v.1 The Pharisees and some of the teachers of the law who had come from Jerusalem gathered around Jesus 2 and saw some of his disciples eating food with hands that were defiled
v. 5 So the Pharisees and teachers of the law asked Jesus, “Why don’t your disciples live according to the tradition of the elders instead of eating their food with defiled hands?
14 Again Jesus called the crowd to him and said, “Listen to me, everyone, and understand this. 15 Nothing outside a person can defile them by going into them. Rather, it is what comes out of a person that defiles them.”
Anyway, you get the idea...this is from BibleGateway..... NIV version????
Does your Biblegateway NIV use unclean then? That would be kinda strange if it uses different words for different computers? Odd huh?
I checked biblegateway and it said it just like you did. I have no idea why it's been changed.... that's really weird.So I went back and looked at the list:
v. 21"...sexual immorality, theft, murder, 22 adultery, greed, malice, deceit, lewdness, envy, slander, arrogance and folly.
And although I never murdered anyone ( once or twice in the past tho, I thought maybe the world would be better if so and so died.....I know now to pray for that person, but since Jesus said even 'thoughts' can be sin.....
I don't think I ever was lewd in the legal sense, but remember I told you about posing for an artist, and then for his class, and in college.....so maybe not in man's legal sense but in God's eyes I think that counts?
As I re-read the list, I think I probably have been guilty of all but maybe malice....I never planned to deliberately take away someone's life.....
Oh but I remember when I was in college, and I knew the black panthers, and Chicago 7 etc. I would parrot the 'party line' ( not really knowing or truly believing ) that if the top 100 richest people in us died, all would be great.
I think it was some sort of Marxist/Mao double speak....I really had no idea what I was blathering about....but nevertheless, I must have repeated that at least once, to look hip and cool back then....so I fear if I had never been saved God would have held me accountable.
And so, even now, I have to be careful, not to even 'think' such thoughts ( like if so and so died ) I need to always take such evil thoughts captive.
Oh I should mention I did pray and talk to Jesus a lot before my appointment to see my PCP and it went well. The doc wrote 6 months worth of prescriptions, so I don't see him for 6 months yeah!!
( He dated all the prescriptions so there is no problem).
Wow, that's fantastic that your appointment went well and you got all your meds too!!! Praise God!!! Thanks for sharing all of that about the verses. I was thinking about it too in regards to myself yesterday and realized that I too have been guilty of them all. Even murder because I know I've probably killed other people's hopes and wishes and to me that's almost the same. I've been guilty of malice as well because I very much wanted to kill my ex husband, the one who sexually molested my children when they were just toddlers. As far as lewdness goes, I used to dress like everyone else, showing off everything I could. My mom even got me some pj's once that said, "if you've got it, flaunt it" and that's how she thought it should be. It's what she did and what she taught me to do. So yeah, I'm guilty of them all too. But that was "then", not now, and it's the same for you too hon. Just like the apostles says: “And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.” (1 Corinthians 6:11)
Today Wednesday July 27th I read Mark 7:24-30
These verses are about a woman with a young child possessed by a demon.
Right there is a scary thought, because my first inclination is to think, a person only gets demon possessed over time ( when they are a teen or older), not as a young child, because usually young child have not reached an age of accountability.
Nevertheless, here is a case of a young child. What is scary is, I wonder if today, maybe more and more young children ( at younger ages) might be becoming possessed thru, movies, videos, music, school, etc.
However, this passage gets stranger!
It seems like Jesus does not immediately grant her request. Now some might think that is mean, but God is not our genii who must do our bidding the moment we ask.
And perhaps because she was a gentile, she may have thought he was some kind of powerful magician, and by not granting her request immediately, she had time to begin to realize, who Jesus really was?
But the most difficult part is yet to come. It at least at first seems like Jesus was very hurtful by calling her a 'dog'! I know Jesus was not and never will be mean so there has to be some other reason.
I asked Jesus about it but it seemed like no answer was coming immediately ( so of like He did not answer the woman request on command).
Soooo I read some commentaries, and I still do feel I have a totally clear picture.
One did make a partial explanation,saying two things. One was that even in our culture, we use 'dog' symbolism speaking of humans in lots of ways, that are not racists, degrading etc.
We may say someone is the 'top dog', or a person is dog tired, or they work like a dog etc. none of these is degrading.
Arrgghh I forgot the 2nd thing, tho I do remember he mention, people who have pet dogs, often pamper and love them, and throw them tasty bits of 'crumbs' from their table.
Oh and this commentator pointed out that Jesus was explaining to her that He came to to Jews first, to see if they would accept their Messiah, but later if they refused ( which most did), then it would be the gentiles.
Yet, I have told Jesus, I still feel something is missing to understanding, ( and to be able to explain it to someone, who might ask) because this seems to be a passage that can be easily misunderstood.
I am not sure, but I thought the Jews did in fact, have a very low opinion of dogs, (perhaps they were unclean?)so someone might throw that up also.
By the way, thank you so much for your encouragement about my chat with my granddaughter. For her to have said, I gave her some things to think on was huge, and I really felt, that could have only been because Jesus was in fact, helping me.
Very good! Let me share from another commentary that I think will help us understand it better. Jesus ignored the woman’s first appeal to Him because that request was made on the wrong basis; she based her appeal on His relationship to Israel as the Son of David (Matt 15:22), a relationship which was founded on God’s covenant with David. Jesus, as the Son of David, will yet bring millennial blessings to the nation of Israel who will become the ruling nation on earth; and, while the Gentiles will benefit under their beneficent rule, they will nevertheless be subject to them. ‘Son of David’ was thus a title which only a Jew could properly use. Jesus did not answer her so that the disciples would ask that she be sent away. He thereby brought the disciples into the scene; they were now ready for their lesson by example so Jesus started by defining His mission as being solely to Israel. This lady displayed rare insight, for recognizing that Jesus was telling her she wasn't a Jew yet had used an Israelite form of address, she addressed her request to Him as ‘Lord,’ thus appealing on the basis of God’s mercy. This is the correct title for Gentiles to use, for in their unsaved state only Jews have a covenant relationship with God—unsaved Gentiles can only approach Him on the basis of His grace. Immediately she used Lord, He granted her request. Notice our Lord’s warmth: when He used the metaphor of giving bread to the Gentile daughter, He used ‘puppy,’ not ‘dog’ (to suit His subject). This intelligent woman responded with the same word. The Life of Christ
““First let the children eat all they want,” he told her, “for it is not right to take the children’s bread and toss it to their dogs.”” (Mark 7:27) So, the children are the Jew's and their bread is the gift of salvation and freedom from sin that He brought to them. The word "dogs" is an unfortunate translation of the word for puppy, as it gives the wrong impression of what the Lord was saying. The "dogs" or "puppies" are the gentiles whom Jesus loved as well, but His mission was first to Israel, which we're told over and over again.
We're not told why it was necessary for Him to point this out to her, but we can know that it was necessary. Perhaps she wanted to be Jewish and felt wronged somehow that she wasn't born a Jew. Or perhaps she thought Gentiles were better than Jews. I have no idea. But perhaps in some way, the fact that her child had been demonized may have had something to do with her attitude either toward Jew's or Gentiles....this part is pure speculation on my part though.
I can tell you that the Jew's of that time often called Gentiles, "“dirty scavenger dogs” and Jesus most definitely was not doing that! He used a different word, a word that she realized gave her hope, and she went for it!
Today Thursday July 28th I read Mark 7:31-37
So the first thing I asked Jesus about was where was Decapoli and He said to look at a map LOL..... So I did and learned it was really a region of 10 cities.
Anyway, people brought a man who was deaf and who could barely talk.
Once again Jesus does an unusual miracle.....because it involves spitting ( he also spit to allow a blind person to enable that person to have sight).
I know I asked you once before about it Cindy, and you explained it, but now I don't remember. sigh!
I always associate spitting as some horrible icky nasty way of disrespecting a person....tho I think if anyone must have to spit on me, Jesus spit would be Holy and not disgusting.
I think the application for me, is not to apply the world's standards to anything, that God may choose, to heal me ( not even just physically).
I did a search of the Bible on spit and in most cases it was a way of disrespecting a person, but our ways are not God's, and God's way are not ours.
I am resisting the temptation to read some commentaries on it, until I hear from you. You may say pray some more about it or that to read a commentary would be fine or tell yet again why did Jesus use spit to heal. Since the man was deaf, he couldn't hear what the Lord said, but he could feel Jesus’ fingers in his ear and the touch on his tongue. Also, at that time, saliva was a Jewish home remedy. It was so common that the pharisees forbade it's use on the sabbath! It's fine to read the commentaries hon. That could be what the Lord wants you to do. Just don't consider them the "final answer" lol. Very good. You said that chapter 14 tells you that if we follow His commandments that the Holy Spirit will live in us and guide us and we will live in peace. Does that mean that when we sin and do not obey Him that the Holy Spirit leaves us?
No, I think the Holy Spirit makes us notice the sin so we dont feel convenient and ok living with this, or better the Holy Spirit reveals the sin, so we are going to repent as soon as possible.
I also do not see where it says that if we follow His commandments that we will live in peace. Instead, Jesus is saying that He gives us His peace, not that we will have a peaceful life, but instead that we will have peace with God and can also have God's peace in our hearts no matter how bad things are in our life.
“But the Counselor, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have said to you. Peace I leave with you; my peace I give you. I do not give to you as the world gives. Do not let your hearts be troubled and do not be afraid.” (John 14:26–27) Yes, I didnt mean that we are not going to have any problems. I expressed it differently.
So again, what did you get from these chapters that you can apply to your life now?
Hm... Because we are not greater than Him, who was way more humble than we are, I am focusing on this. Maybe sometimes my ego is still there, even if I do not realize it, so this is a good lesson. Very good application Eva! Thank you for clearing up my misunderstandings too!Guys, I am on John chapter 16. In 1-4, was Jesus reffering to the trials of the disciples after His ressurection, or He talks also about something else I dont see? also from 13-15, what does these verses mean? I cannot be more specific in what I dont understand. Could you please tell me in simple words the meaning? The Holy Spirit will speak about the future and will reveal the glory of the Son of God, is this the meaning? John 16:1–4: Jesus was saying that He didn't tell them before because it was unnecessary since He was with them and He kept them safe. But they needed to know about it now because it would prepare them for when it happened and also be a sign for them of yet another prophecy that came true, so it would increase their faith.
John 16:13–15: The Holy Spirit will guide their thinking and teach them the Truth. Remember what Jesus said about His own words? “...I do nothing on my own but speak just what the Father has taught me.” (John 8:28) He also spoke of this in John 12:49, saying that the Father told Him what to say, or that He spoke only what the Father taught Him. This is what He is saying about the Holy Spirit, that the Holy Spirit will only speak what Jesus tells Him to. Yes, the Holy Spirit would reveal the future to them and bring glory to Jesus by revealing the Truth about Jesus to them (and us). The Holy Spirit never speaks about Himself, but only speaks about Jesus. Everything belongs to Jesus for He is God, so everything the Holy Spirit uses to teach about Jesus, came from Jesus for Jesus created everything.
I hope I didn't confuse you more...that's a hard one to explain!
As always I will defer to Cindy because she has spent waaaaay more time with the Lord than I.
That said, I will go out on a limb and say that it could be that 1-4 has a dual/double meaning time wise.
The first meaning I think is for those Christians living at that time. However, I believe that God's Word, often seems to have 2 time lines in view.
So the 2nd meaning could be for those who live after, but perhaps especially for the end times.
I 'think' I might understand 13-15, but since I already made a stab at 1-4, I will leave them....I would hate to mess up both LOL Very good Barbara! That's quite true and I didn't even think to mention it, so I'm very glad you did! You may very well be able to do a better job then I can on the other verses too, so please don't feel you have to wait on me!
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Post by fearnot on Jul 29, 2016 15:30:04 GMT -5
Thank you so much for all your great explanations.
A puppy is certainly a different image!!! I wonder why they goofed up on the translation.
Now I remember, spit was a home remedy. I think you might have also mentioned how even today, a mom may use saliva on a small child face, if it has a spot of dirt and there is no water around.
I seem to recall reading somewhere that saliva is the first step in digestion, so it has some enzymes to start breaking down food, and perhaps works on killing certain things ( not good things).
Eva that was a great application!! :-)
I am soooo happy, I have made it to over 1/2 a year of reading scripture each day!!
However, I am at about a D minus minus minus of reading other things, and spending time on the computer....over God's word.
I think I have gone from a D minus to a C minus in talking to Jesus throughout the day....which although not great...is still an improvement.
It seems easier to make some progress in talking to the Lord, than in reading scripture. So I am so grateful for this thread! Thank you.
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Post by fearnot on Jul 29, 2016 16:00:49 GMT -5
Today Friday July 29th I read Mark 8: 1-13
I had just mentioned in the post above how I have a hard time (sometimes) choosing to read the Lord's word, over other lesser man centered things ( some are good, but not the best, some are really not so good boarding on bad even).
But in this section of scripture, I took note right away, that some of the people came a long distance to hear Jesus.
I really do want to get closer to Jesus. I often recall His word and find it so helpful to me in so many ways.... so I am not sure why I still choose much much lesser things, unless its just my sin nature getting the upper hand.
Anyway, these people making great sacrifice to see the Lord, was something I need to apply....
( not as a sacrifice... but as a 'joy' reading His Word)!!! I asked Jesus to help me with that!
I also took note that the disciples did not waste the left overs, another application for me.
I have been working on finding ways to not be so 'worldly' in this 'throw away' culture. I do not mean to make an idol out of being thrifty and recycling, but neither do I wish to be slothful and toss everything that could be reused ( food or things). Again I asked Jesus to give me a healthy balance....
but finding it a joy reading His word, is my first priority.
I looked up Dalmanutha but apparently no one knows for sure exactly where it was.
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Post by Cindy on Jul 30, 2016 10:17:26 GMT -5
just a quick hi! Bruce is waiting to go shopping now. sorry!
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Post by fearnot on Jul 30, 2016 19:12:41 GMT -5
Today Sat. July 30th I read Mark 8: 14-21
The Yeast of the Pharisees and Herod
So I prayed before reading that Jesus and the Holy Spirit would open my eyes and ears to understand what Jesus would have me to learn and apply concerning this passage today.
The funny thing is I read it and at first I have to answer to v.21 when Jesus asks His disciples this question: v. 21 21 "He said to them, “Do you still not understand?”
Ummmmm no....I replied.
So the first thing I felt impressed upon me was to look up yeast ( in BibleGateway search engine).
No sooner did I start to read thru some of them, than ( I think ( for me, at this time), I got an answer ..... maybe not THE answer, but maybe a start? You can tell me if I was really 'hearing' from the Lord...... if you would?
Firstly, I remembered that yeast can be a type or symbol of sin....
So the first part "“Watch out for the yeast of the Pharisees and that of Herod." seemed to be about their wrong gospel....
but like the disciples, I could not understand the connection to the first verse about the fact the disciples only brought one loaf of bread.
Nevertheless, I only read a few verses about yeast, and then it dawned on me, that yeast, is what makes bread grow, and sin and false gospels lead to more and more sin.
However, the miracles of Jesus having to do with bread..... that by his miracles also grew (for immediate need, and future needs by all the left over pieces)...... only the Pharisees yeast grew to more and more sin but Jesus bread grows to more and more Holiness.
I would not be surprised if there is a lot more and/or, I may have not even heard correctly, because unfortunately I often have to also answer yes, to these questions Jesus asked the disciples:
v.17 ".......Do you still not see or understand? Are your hearts hardened? v. 18 Do you have eyes but fail to see, and ears but fail to hear? And don’t you remember? "
Well certainly, I have to apply the very first part: to beware of: The Yeast of the Pharisees: false religions, gospels, (even in those who say they are a part of Christianity ) and Herod ( to me Herod of today would be the evil parts of government).
And secondly, not to have a hardened heart nor to have eyes but fail to see, and ears but fail to hear And to memorize God'w Word so I don't forget.
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Post by Cindy on Jul 31, 2016 10:45:16 GMT -5
Thank you so much for all your great explanations.
A puppy is certainly a different image!!! I wonder why they goofed up on the translation.
Now I remember, spit was a home remedy. I think you might have also mentioned how even today, a mom may use saliva on a small child face, if it has a spot of dirt and there is no water around.
I seem to recall reading somewhere that saliva is the first step in digestion, so it has some enzymes to start breaking down food, and perhaps works on killing certain things ( not good things).
Eva that was a great application!! :-)
I am soooo happy, I have made it to over 1/2 a year of reading scripture each day!!
However, I am at about a D minus minus minus of reading other things, and spending time on the computer....over God's word.
I think I have gone from a D minus to a C minus in talking to Jesus throughout the day....which although not great...is still an improvement.
It seems easier to make some progress in talking to the Lord, than in reading scripture. So I am so grateful for this thread! Thank you. You're doing very well, and I'm sure that you'll continue to improve too.
I did want to ask both of you though, when was the last time you looked at your notebook, and if you're taking down any notes about what you study? I don't mean daily notes, although that's very good to do, but rather adding any insights into your notebook.
Secondly, I wanted to mention that one thing I don't hear much about is whether or not you are reflecting on God's Word during the day. It doesn't have to be what you read that day, although it can be, but simply about anything the Lord has taught you recently through His Word. Reflecting on something you've studied really helps get it into your heart and helps us apply it to our lives. It's also pretty natural to talk to the Lord about whatever we're reflecting on as well. Today Friday July 29th I read Mark 8: 1-13
I had just mentioned in the post above how I have a hard time (sometimes) choosing to read the Lord's word, over other lesser man centered things ( some are good, but not the best, some are really not so good boarding on bad even).
But in this section of scripture, I took note right away, that some of the people came a long distance to hear Jesus.
I really do want to get closer to Jesus. I often recall His word and find it so helpful to me in so many ways.... so I am not sure why I still choose much much lesser things, unless its just my sin nature getting the upper hand.
Anyway, these people making great sacrifice to see the Lord, was something I need to apply....
( not as a sacrifice... but as a 'joy' reading His Word)!!! I asked Jesus to help me with that!
I also took note that the disciples did not waste the left overs, another application for me.
I have been working on finding ways to not be so 'worldly' in this 'throw away' culture. I do not mean to make an idol out of being thrifty and recycling, but neither do I wish to be slothful and toss everything that could be reused ( food or things). Again I asked Jesus to give me a healthy balance....
but finding it a joy reading His word, is my first priority.
I looked up Dalmanutha but apparently no one knows for sure exactly where it was. I really like the applications you're getting from what you read. Did you ask the Lord anything about this story? here's some more info for you:
We have no record other than this mention in Mk of a place called Dalmanutha. Matt 15:39 has Magadan, equally unknown. Most interpreters suggest that Magadan is a variant spelling for Magdala, the major center of the Galilean fishing industry. Dalmanutha may be a small anchorage north of Magdala discovered in 1970 (the name Dalmanutha may mean “anchorage” or “enclosure”). The Apologetics Study Bible
This location is not mentioned in any secular literature and only mentioned here in the NT. The location is unknown, but clearly in the region near Magdala (cf. Mt 15:39, Magadan). Recent archeological work in the area, when the water level of Galilee was at an all-time low, revealed several heretofore unknown anchorages. One small harbor has been found between Magadala and Capernaum which may be Dalmanutha. The MacArthur study Bible
It's been identified in the ruins of a village about a mile from Magdala, in the little open valley of ‘Ain-el-Barideh, “the cold fountain,” called el-Mejdel, possibly the “Migdal-el” of Josh. 19:38. Easton’s Bible dictionary Today Sat. July 30th I read Mark 8: 14-21
The Yeast of the Pharisees and Herod
So I prayed before reading that Jesus and the Holy Spirit would open my eyes and ears to understand what Jesus would have me to learn and apply concerning this passage today.
The funny thing is I read it and at first I have to answer to v.21 when Jesus asks His disciples this question: v. 21 21 "He said to them, “Do you still not understand?”
Ummmmm no....I replied.
So the first thing I felt impressed upon me was to look up yeast ( in BibleGateway search engine).
No sooner did I start to read thru some of them, than ( I think ( for me, at this time), I got an answer ..... maybe not THE answer, but maybe a start? You can tell me if I was really 'hearing' from the Lord...... if you would?
Firstly, I remembered that yeast can be a type or symbol of sin....
So the first part "“Watch out for the yeast of the Pharisees and that of Herod." seemed to be about their wrong gospel....
but like the disciples, I could not understand the connection to the first verse about the fact the disciples only brought one loaf of bread.
Nevertheless, I only read a few verses about yeast, and then it dawned on me, that yeast, is what makes bread grow, and sin and false gospels lead to more and more sin.
However, the miracles of Jesus having to do with bread..... that by his miracles also grew (for immediate need, and future needs by all the left over pieces)...... only the Pharisees yeast grew to more and more sin but Jesus bread grows to more and more Holiness.
I would not be surprised if there is a lot more and/or, I may have not even heard correctly, because unfortunately I often have to also answer yes, to these questions Jesus asked the disciples:
v.17 ".......Do you still not see or understand? Are your hearts hardened? v. 18 Do you have eyes but fail to see, and ears but fail to hear? And don’t you remember? "
Well certainly, I have to apply the very first part: to beware of: The Yeast of the Pharisees: false religions, gospels, (even in those who say they are a part of Christianity ) and Herod ( to me Herod of today would be the evil parts of government).
And secondly, not to have a hardened heart nor to have eyes but fail to see, and ears but fail to hear And to memorize God'w Word so I don't forget.
Very good!!!! Yes, yeast represents sin. The sin of the pharisees and others was that they taught the people (or tried to) to reject Jesus, so here the sin being talked about is the sin of unbelief. Their sin was also the sin of hypocrisy. When Jesus said, "Be careful! Watch out...", it was a command. (that shows up in the original language). Jesus was warning them (and us) that it's easy to let our guard down and so not realize it when we don't catch the spiritual significance of something. One reason Mark mentioned that the disciples had forgotten to bring bread with them except for the loaf that was in the boat in Mark 8:14, was simply so the reader would understand why they thought Jesus was talking about that when He mentioned the yeast of the pharisees. It was also to let the reader know that the disciples still worried about things such as making sure they had enough provisions for a trip.
Remember, just before this section, the pharisees had again been questioning Jesus (harassing Him most likely as they had no intention of believing) and the disciples had seen and heard the whole thing before getting into the boat. For them, it was as though as soon as they left the scene, they put everything about what had happened out of their minds and assumed that Jesus was speaking about a completely new subject. This story is also told in Matt 16:5–12.
The purpose of the two miracles of feeding the multitudes was to teach the disciples that they were to rely utterly on Jesus for the spiritual food they were to distribute to those entrusted to their care (Jesus is the bread of life—John 6:35). The miracles, too, were proof of the literalness of Matt 6:31–33; yet here we find the disciples worried about bread again, which is why Jesus spoke as He did in Matt 16:8. The Pharisaic rejection of Jesus was the result of them interposing their traditions (teachings) between God’s word and themselves, and this is what Jesus was warning the disciples against. He called on them to place their full confidence in Him and thus avoid the error of the Pharisees and Sadducees, the error of disbelieving Him because He did not meet their man-made traditions, traditions which were superimposed on, and which ultimately superseded, Scripture for them. Note Matt 16:8; Jesus was also giving instruction in absolute faith in Him. He had earlier warned that anxiety about food would blunt one’s spiritual perception (Matt 6:30–31); indeed, the ‘O you of little faith’ repeats His earlier remark. The Life of Christ
Notice too that before this, in Mark 7:31–37, Jesus had healed a deaf and mute man. Next in Mark 8:22–26 He heals a blind man. This is like an illustration of a hardened heart that is blind and deaf being healed. As far as why Jesus questioned them about how much bread was left over after feeding the people goes, He was trying to get them to realize that He would always provide more then enough to take care of them, therefore they had no need to worry about whether or not they'd brought any bread at all. They were still seeing Jesus as just another man, instead of God incarnate who could provide whatever they needed at any time. They were still seeing things as "coincidence" or "good luck" instead of realizing that the Lord was keeping them safe, fed, and making sure they were well cared for. They were still trusting in their own provision instead of trusting in His. (To me, that's the same thing that "prepers" do, when they think they have to stock up for hard times. God calls us to give away what we have and not worry about ourselves because He will take care of us. We give it away to others, especially the unsaved, because they don't understand that God will take care of them.)
I gave you this information, just as an added help, because you got it right by yourself, and that's great!
One observation: You still have a habit of putting yourself down hon, like when you said, " I would not be surprised if there is a lot more and/or, I may have not even heard correctly, because unfortunately I often have to also answer yes, to these questions Jesus asked the disciples:" but in fact you did understand and did very well. I know you think you're not trusting yourself and therefore that it's not a bad thing, but that's just a lie we tell ourselves. I know because I used to do the very same thing and did it for a long time. In fact most people do this, so we're used to seeing and hearing it done which makes it easy to fall into. The problem is that Jesus told us that we would hear His voice. He did not say "maybe" or "if we tried hard enough or long enough" or "if we worked at it", etc. It actually has nothing at all to do with us, we just like to think it does because it gives us some importance. Really though it's totally dependent on the Lord. If you don't hear anything or don't get understanding, then you either haven't asked Him or for some reason, He's waiting before telling you more. If you don't hear or get something from Him, it doesn't mean He doesn't love you or won't help you, it means that there's something else going on, and that perhaps He wants you to simply continue to study for a bit, or maybe He wants you to reflect on it for awhile and talk to Him about it more before He answers you. Even now, there are times when it's the next day or longer before I get an answer to a specific question. I never worry about it because I know that in His time He will answer me, and it's always fun to finally see how He does it.
That's not how I always was though, I used to be like you are in thinking it was all about me. But now I understand that it's really His job to help and guide me and that He will always perform that job perfectly, with great love and affection for me. At first, when doubts would start to creep into my mind, I'd have to take them captive and remind myself what Jesus told us that He would do...that we would hear His voice and I'd remind myself of what He said the Holy Spirit would do: teach and guide us into all truth. As time went by and I continued to ask Him questions, and saw that He did answer, I became more and more trusting until now there's no doubt in my mind at all. Now it's your turn to go through this, to take those thoughts captive and remember what He promised us, learning to trust Him and not worry about or even consider "failure" because it simply won't happen.
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Post by fearnot on Jul 31, 2016 14:55:45 GMT -5
Uh oh...........I feel like a 'bad' kid (rightly so) when you asked about the notebook.
I really don't have a good reason, but excuses abound. Remember you finally had to say to me that we had to move on, because it had already taken me several months ( I think I was not quite finished with part 7?)
Then we started this thread, and I was discouraged about the notebook, and also anxiously determined to finally read scripture every single day.... and so, once again, I have not looked or worked in the notebook, since we moved on. I have thought about it from time to time, but I even forgot where or what thread it was, so I could go back and finally finish all 10 or 11 sections.
I know I would actually feel much better if I did finish it and then do the notes like you asked.
I have never been very disciplined all my life, this thread is a miracle in itself. I would try to make a case well you were in the medical field and discipline is necessary and required there, whereas an artist is a 'free spirit and paints as the spirit moves them.
However, many artists are extremely disciplined so that excuse doesn't really fly.
I just seem to fight with the notebook, and I am not sure why...its some sort of sin thing.
However, I really felt to make this a priority but now if you can tell me which thread its at I will finish it up and then start with notes etc......I am soooo sorry AGAIN!
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Post by fearnot on Jul 31, 2016 15:46:40 GMT -5
About reflecting on God's Word..... I don't reflect on it enough, I do tho
And also, sometimes its not by a deliberate choice, but perhaps, I will read something, or see something on my laptop, or circumstance will happen in the day, and God's Word ( a verse, or passage will just come to mind).
I think that is one of the nice things about this thread, it is one way of getting more of God's Word into my mind, heart and spirit, so that when a situation happens, God's Word is right there to sooth, heal, or strengthen, etc.
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Post by fearnot on Jul 31, 2016 16:02:59 GMT -5
You are right about the waiting when the Lord does not answer right away. I actually have even asked God questions that took years, even decades before He answered, but He did in fact, answer.
Yet, I think there are 2 misunderstanding I was operating under.
One was laziness ( partially feed by fear that the Lord wouldn't answer me) and so out of laziness, and worldliness, I wouldn't dig into the Word and search a little deeper.
And more recently, I sort of thought that Jesus always answered you questions right away...
otherwise how could you have such a firm and profound grasp of the meanings of scripture.
So when an answer wasn't immediately forth coming, I felt like I was failing somehow....
even tho in the back of my mind I knew it could mean the Lord want me to spend more time with Him ( by searching His Word) or He wanted me to reflect on it and wait for a 'time' ( however long).
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Post by fearnot on Jul 31, 2016 16:12:19 GMT -5
Today Sunday July 31st I read Mark 8:22-26
Jesus Heals a Blind Man at Bethsaida
The interesting thing about this is that Jesus did not fully heal the man's sight right away. I think that is an important concept for me to apply to my life. Jesus may choose to heal ( or not to heal) me is stages, as a process, instead of an instant miracle.
I always relate to the man seeing men as trees because I am super nearsighted and have astigmatism so without glasses I see everything as 'trees'. I often think of Van Gogh's starry night as exactly the way I see night lights, moon, stars etc. without glasses.
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Post by Cindy on Aug 1, 2016 12:42:41 GMT -5
Uh oh...........I feel like a 'bad' kid (rightly so) when you asked about the notebook.
I really don't have a good reason, but excuses abound. Remember you finally had to say to me that we had to move on, because it had already taken me several months ( I think I was not quite finished with part 7?)
Then we started this thread, and I was discouraged about the notebook, and also anxiously determined to finally read scripture every single day.... and so, once again, I have not looked or worked in the notebook, since we moved on. I have thought about it from time to time, but I even forgot where or what thread it was, so I could go back and finally finish all 10 or 11 sections.
I know I would actually feel much better if I did finish it and then do the notes like you asked.
I have never been very disciplined all my life, this thread is a miracle in itself. I would try to make a case well you were in the medical field and discipline is necessary and required there, whereas an artist is a 'free spirit and paints as the spirit moves them.
However, many artists are extremely disciplined so that excuse doesn't really fly.
I just seem to fight with the notebook, and I am not sure why...its some sort of sin thing.
However, I really felt to make this a priority but now if you can tell me which thread its at I will finish it up and then start with notes etc......I am soooo sorry AGAIN! no need to be sorry, I figured you all had forgotten it again, because I know I would have lol. I brought it up only because the Lord reminded me about it so figured it was time to remind you guys too. Don't worry, the notebook is to help you, not to be something to hinder you or cause you worry, ok?About reflecting on God's Word..... I don't reflect on it enough, I do tho
And also, sometimes its not by a deliberate choice, but perhaps, I will read something, or see something on my laptop, or circumstance will happen in the day, and God's Word ( a verse, or passage will just come to mind).
I think that is one of the nice things about this thread, it is one way of getting more of God's Word into my mind, heart and spirit, so that when a situation happens, God's Word is right there to sooth, heal, or strengthen, etc. That's perfect, and that also shows me (and you too) that God is the one bringing His Word to your mind at those times. it again shows you that the Holy Spirit is doing His job just like Jesus said He would! See? “But the Counselor, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have said to you.” (John 14:26) You are right about the waiting when the Lord does not answer right away. I actually have even asked God questions that took years, even decades before He answered, but He did in fact, answer.
Yet, I think there are 2 misunderstanding I was operating under.
One was laziness ( partially feed by fear that the Lord wouldn't answer me) and so out of laziness, and worldliness, I wouldn't dig into the Word and search a little deeper.
And more recently, I sort of thought that Jesus always answered you questions right away...
otherwise how could you have such a firm and profound grasp of the meanings of scripture.
So when an answer wasn't immediately forth coming, I felt like I was failing somehow....
even tho in the back of my mind I knew it could mean the Lord want me to spend more time with Him ( by searching His Word) or He wanted me to reflect on it and wait for a 'time' ( however long). oh my goodness, my grasp of the scriptures probably isn't anywhere near as "firm" as you think it is lol Remember, when you ask me something, or tell me about something you've read, I have all the time in the world to look it up and read about it or research it etc before I reply to you. It doesn't just come from the top of my head most of the time. I'm afraid you've put my on a pedestal that I could never live up to hon. But thank you for thinking so well of me. Today Sunday July 31st I read Mark 8:22-26
Jesus Heals a Blind Man at Bethsaida
The interesting thing about this is that Jesus did not fully heal the man's sight right away. I think that is an important concept for me to apply to my life. Jesus may choose to heal ( or not to heal) me is stages, as a process, instead of an instant miracle.
I always relate to the man seeing men as trees because I am super nearsighted and have astigmatism so without glasses I see everything as 'trees'. I often think of Van Gogh's starry night as exactly the way I see night lights, moon, stars etc. without glasses. Me too about my vision as I'm both very far sighted and very nearsighted LOL. Don't have anymore time today as I spent the day writing about the tribulation again lol
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Post by fearnot on Aug 1, 2016 15:12:06 GMT -5
Thank you sooooo much Cindy for your gracious loving reply!!! I was expecting a sound reprimand for not keeping up the notebook. :-(
Just 2 things,
1) I need to find it ( things have a way of getting buried under piles of books, etc). Leonard and I are both prolific readers..... and Leonard cannot resist when our library will sell for a dollar or two, some of those super large, great photos and /or illustrated, very BIG beautiful art books, animals books, history, Bible history etc etc. we now have stacks of them and could start our own library LOL
Then too I have plant and flower catalogs, he has jewelry and art catalogs, magazines of all manner of interests...well you get the idea.....
So once I locate my notebook,
2) would you mind telling me where all the info for it is located please ( what thread)?
I don't think I am really putting you on too much of a pedestal. ( I need the smiley with the arms crossed LOL)
I know there were many Christians in the past ,
and some of present times like: John Mac Arthur and Josh McDowell etc. ( I just noticed how similar their names are LOL)
that have spent most of their life in God's Word loving their Lord Jesus....
that is what I think of you too!
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Post by fearnot on Aug 1, 2016 15:43:29 GMT -5
Today Monday August 1st I read Mark 8:27-33
I did pray before reading.
Peter Declares That Jesus Is the Messiah
It is interesting to me that when Jesus asks the disciples who do the people say He is one of the answers is that He is one of the prophets..... Which is what a lot of people are still saying to this day. But of course, that is a foolish thought when one really thinks it thru.
The application for me: is to be like Peter and declare that Jesus is the Messiah, the Savior, God the Son.
then in the next verses: Jesus Predicts His Death
Peter took Jesus aside and began to rebuke Jesus about this but Jesus instead rebukes Peter and says to Peter: "Get behind me Satan!"
I have always thought that is 'one' of the reasons why the Catholic church is wrong about their idea of pope-hood based on Peter.
It is not that Peter was not saved....
but for the Catholics to base their whole theory of popes being 'infallible' as Jesus representative passed down from a clearly fallible peter, never made any sense to me.
There are many applications for me to garner from these verses
one is to be sure to ask the Lord Jesus to set a guard before my mouth, lest I speak even more foolish than Peter, which I have already done on many an occasion!
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Post by fearnot on Aug 2, 2016 18:01:45 GMT -5
Leonard did some things to my laptop and its working for the moment. I am thinking maybe you prayed about it. Hopefully it will continue working.
It's strange ( well not so strange) I was watching a 'questionable' series about real medieval kings, Vikings etc. but parts were violent and sexual.....I was thinking to myself, I am not going to watch this series anymore, but since there was only 2 minutes left of season 1 part 2 I thought I would just finish the 2 remaining minutes....and then the computer died. I got the feeling the Lord, wanted me to be obedient, the minute I knew I should turn it off, and not watch even 2 minutes.
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Post by fearnot on Aug 2, 2016 18:55:25 GMT -5
Today Tuesday August 2nd I read Mark 8: 34-38
The first thing that stood out was Jesus said we have to take up 'OUR' cross. I think someone maybe you? pointed out it says our cross, not His.
So when we see people during Easter, carrying a cross and even being 'crucified' (but not really, they don't die).... it seems to me, they are taking up Jesus cross, not their own.
I asked the Lord what is my cross? I think this is something to reflect on.
There are lots of little crosses in my life, so it doesn't always mean a big thing. Still, we are not to worship this world at all costs, rather we need to be willing to die for Jesus sake.
I have always love verse 36 about what does it profit a man ( or woman) even if they gained the whole world....only to forfeit their soul ( in Hell).
I need to apply that verse, whenever, I might feel, a tad envious of some who do not have to struggle concerning money.
I am trying to keep this short, just in case my computer gets unhappy.
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Post by Cindy on Aug 3, 2016 10:15:52 GMT -5
Thank you sooooo much Cindy for your gracious loving reply!!! I was expecting a sound reprimand for not keeping up the notebook. :-(
Just 2 things,
1) I need to find it ( things have a way of getting buried under piles of books, etc). Leonard and I are both prolific readers..... and Leonard cannot resist when our library will sell for a dollar or two, some of those super large, great photos and /or illustrated, very BIG beautiful art books, animals books, history, Bible history etc etc. we now have stacks of them and could start our own library LOL
Then too I have plant and flower catalogs, he has jewelry and art catalogs, magazines of all manner of interests...well you get the idea.....
So once I locate my notebook,
2) would you mind telling me where all the info for it is located please ( what thread)?
I don't think I am really putting you on too much of a pedestal. ( I need the smiley with the arms crossed LOL)
I know there were many Christians in the past ,
and some of present times like: John Mac Arthur and Josh McDowell etc. ( I just noticed how similar their names are LOL)
that have spent most of their life in God's Word loving their Lord Jesus....
that is what I think of you too! I believe the information for the notebook would be in the counseling forum hon. Thank you for the compliment! Today Monday August 1st I read Mark 8:27-33
I did pray before reading.
Peter Declares That Jesus Is the Messiah
It is interesting to me that when Jesus asks the disciples who do the people say He is one of the answers is that He is one of the prophets..... Which is what a lot of people are still saying to this day. But of course, that is a foolish thought when one really thinks it thru.
The application for me: is to be like Peter and declare that Jesus is the Messiah, the Savior, God the Son.
then in the next verses: Jesus Predicts His Death
Peter took Jesus aside and began to rebuke Jesus about this but Jesus instead rebukes Peter and says to Peter: "Get behind me Satan!"
I have always thought that is 'one' of the reasons why the Catholic church is wrong about their idea of pope-hood based on Peter.
It is not that Peter was not saved....
but for the Catholics to base their whole theory of popes being 'infallible' as Jesus representative passed down from a clearly fallible peter, never made any sense to me.
There are many applications for me to garner from these verses
one is to be sure to ask the Lord Jesus to set a guard before my mouth, lest I speak even more foolish than Peter, which I have already done on many an occasion!
good application, and a good one for me to remember too! I think the RCC just makes the bible say what they want it to say. They're not interested in what it really says....Leonard did some things to my laptop and its working for the moment. I am thinking maybe you prayed about it. Hopefully it will continue working.
It's strange ( well not so strange) I was watching a 'questionable' series about real medieval kings, Vikings etc. but parts were violent and sexual.....I was thinking to myself, I am not going to watch this series anymore, but since there was only 2 minutes left of season 1 part 2 I thought I would just finish the 2 remaining minutes....and then the computer died. I got the feeling the Lord, wanted me to be obedient, the minute I knew I should turn it off, and not watch even 2 minutes. Possibly, lol, I don't know as that would be between you and Him. I'm glad your computer is working again though. I did pray for you yesterday, but didn't see that about your computer until today, however I did ask the Lord to bless you, so maybe that's His blessing....
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Post by fearnot on Aug 3, 2016 12:20:10 GMT -5
Even IF it were a weird coincident and not truly connected (but I still wonder if maybe there was)......
the application to obey the Lord as soon as I know to stop or start something, still applies...
It wasn't so much I watched one program, or even that I watched some violence and sexual content ( at first, I thought maybe the sex part would be a one time thing.....as it was on several others, different shows, I have watched)
But when I knew for sure, this was not a one time thing ( that was sort of depicting the medieval times), and I continued watching.....
but then..... even I agreed it was beyond anything remotely OK ..... yet I still thought: 'oh well, I may as well finish the remaining 2 minutes...... That was a sin I believe and a deliberate one at that.....
It just seemed the Lord turned my laptop off ...... boom blank black screen.....
And it wasn't until the next day, after Leonard tried taking the battery out and holding the on/off button for over 30 seconds, ( to stop whatever electrical field congestion of something LOL)
and then put battery back in....and recharging it.....that it finally starting working....
Notwithstanding, the timing was pretty strange (or just coincidence )
I could try an experiment and watch a different new series, and if it has similar drawbacks, and the same thing happened.........
LOL Don't worry, I won't.
I have had to stop watching 4 or 5 so far this year.
I find it so annoying that directors, producers, writers feel the need to 'porn-ize' a show. It could have been an interesting history series... in fact, King Alfred is one of Leonard's direct ancestors...but no!
OH OH I found my notebook...did I already tell you that? So I will go soon to the counselling thread and try to finally finish it....tho it will probably take a week or two or three...
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Post by evafromgreece on Aug 3, 2016 12:27:36 GMT -5
Hey guys. I am sick with gastroenteritis. I am not sure if I can make it being online. Yesterday I was really bad. Too much vomiting and diarrhea. I went to the doctor, he prescribed some meds and wrote in a paper that I should stay off work for 2 days. Last night was a disaster. I always wake up vomiting even the water. I finally manage to sleep around 6 am. :(
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Post by fearnot on Aug 3, 2016 12:55:20 GMT -5
Today Wed. August 3rd. I read Mark 9: 1-7 These verses cover the transfiguration.
It seems like perhaps Peter, James and John saw a foretaste of Jesus as God. One indication was Jesus clothes became so dazzling white, more than could every be bleached on Earth. It reminded me of how heaven will be beyond what we can even imagine or think, colors being just one of an infinite array of beyond our ability to speculate.
We already discussed in detail Peter's wishing to please Jesus by putting up 3 shelters.
But the application for me today is verse7: "“This is my Son, whom I love. Listen to him!”
I need to 'listen to Jesus' and obey in a timely manner.
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Post by fearnot on Aug 3, 2016 13:33:11 GMT -5
Oh Eva:
I am soooo sorry you are so sick. I somehow missed your post or I would have replied immediately.
I will pray you get better soon!
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Post by Cindy on Aug 4, 2016 10:21:01 GMT -5
Even IF it were a weird coincident and not truly connected (but I still wonder if maybe there was)......
the application to obey the Lord as soon as I know to stop or start something, still applies...
It wasn't so much I watched one program, or even that I watched some violence and sexual content ( at first, I thought maybe the sex part would be a one time thing.....as it was on several others, different shows, I have watched)
But when I knew for sure, this was not a one time thing ( that was sort of depicting the medieval times), and I continued watching.....
but then..... even I agreed it was beyond anything remotely OK ..... yet I still thought: 'oh well, I may as well finish the remaining 2 minutes...... That was a sin I believe and a deliberate one at that.....
It just seemed the Lord turned my laptop off ...... boom blank black screen.....
And it wasn't until the next day, after Leonard tried taking the battery out and holding the on/off button for over 30 seconds, ( to stop whatever electrical field congestion of something LOL)
and then put battery back in....and recharging it.....that it finally starting working....
Notwithstanding, the timing was pretty strange (or just coincidence )
I could try an experiment and watch a different new series, and if it has similar drawbacks, and the same thing happened.........
LOL Don't worry, I won't.
I have had to stop watching 4 or 5 so far this year.
I find it so annoying that directors, producers, writers feel the need to 'porn-ize' a show. It could have been an interesting history series... in fact, King Alfred is one of Leonard's direct ancestors...but no!
OH OH I found my notebook...did I already tell you that? So I will go soon to the counselling thread and try to finally finish it....tho it will probably take a week or two or three... No...that wouldn't be a good idea...at least i wouldn't want to be anywhere around if you did it! I don't believe in coincidences anyway, as I know the Lord is in control of everything. I'm glad you found your notebook! I didn't realize you hadn't finished it...Hey guys. I am sick with gastroenteritis. I am not sure if I can make it being online. Yesterday I was really bad. Too much vomiting and diarrhea. I went to the doctor, he prescribed some meds and wrote in a paper that I should stay off work for 2 days. Last night was a disaster. I always wake up vomiting even the water. I finally manage to sleep around 6 am. :( I'm so sorry you're sick Eva and hope you get well soon. I've been praying for you and will continue to. Today Wed. August 3rd. I read Mark 9: 1-7 These verses cover the transfiguration.
It seems like perhaps Peter, James and John saw a foretaste of Jesus as God. One indication was Jesus clothes became so dazzling white, more than could every be bleached on Earth. It reminded me of how heaven will be beyond what we can even imagine or think, colors being just one of an infinite array of beyond our ability to speculate.
We already discussed in detail Peter's wishing to please Jesus by putting up 3 shelters.
But the application for me today is verse7: "“This is my Son, whom I love. Listen to him!”
I need to 'listen to Jesus' and obey in a timely manner. Amen! I really do like your applications!Oh Eva:
I am soooo sorry you are so sick. I somehow missed your post or I would have replied immediately.
I will pray you get better soon! Me too!
Have a good day everyone!
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Post by fearnot on Aug 4, 2016 14:37:37 GMT -5
So I looked in my notebook and I think I am sort of close to being done with ch 8 (my identity in Christ). I will try to work on it today.
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Post by fearnot on Aug 4, 2016 14:55:16 GMT -5
Today Thursday Aug. 4th I read Mark 9: 8-13
Jesus would often tell people He healed not to tell other people about what He had done for them. (but they always did).
But it seems strange that in v.9 He tells the disciples not to tell anyone until He rises from the dead.
I asked Jesus about this and then, looked at the other two versions and strangely Luke does not mention that Jesus asked them not to speak about it until He rose from the dead. However, it does say that they kept it to themselves at that time.
I guess it seems curious, Jesus would ask them to keep it quiet, because people already know He is doing major miracles, so this seems like only one more hint the He is God.
Perhaps He was protecting their reputations ( they might have sounded unstable telling this story?), but after Jesus rose from the dead, this story would make perfect sense?
Another odd thing is how quickly they jumped into asking about Elijah.
In any case, the application for me, is an on going reminder to me, to 'set a guard before my mouth'.
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