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Post by evafromgreece on Aug 9, 2016 14:49:05 GMT -5
Although when the rapture happens, the last Gentile will have been saved, and the last Jew will have been made a member of Christ's body, the Church, there will still be a chance for people to be saved after the rapture. But there will be a difference between their salvation and ours. Those who are saved after the rapture will NOT be part of the body of Christ. They will not be members of Christ's body, the Church. This is another reason we can know that the Church will not be on the earth when the tribulation happens. During the Tribulation, when a Jewish person is saved, they will still be considered to be part of Israel. Remember, God promised them that "all Israel will be saved". I want to quote this in context for you so you can see it in full as that's important: “I do not want you to be ignorant of this mystery, brothers, so that you may not be conceited: Israel has experienced a hardening in part until the full number of the Gentiles has come in. And so all Israel will be saved, as it is written: “The deliverer will come from Zion; he will turn godlessness away from Jacob. And this is my covenant with them when I take away their sins.”” (Romans 11:25–27) Notice that "all Israel will be saved" happens AFTER the full number of the Gentiles has come in. The "full number of the Gentiles has come in" simply means when every gentile that is going to be saved and part of the body of Christ, has been saved. So when the last Gentile that God has elected to be saved, accepts Christ, the church age will be over. We're told that the deliverer, who we know is Jesus, will come from Zion, and since we know that Jesus in now in Heaven, this must happen when He returns the second time. So when Jesus returns, at His Second Coming, at that time, "all Israel will be saved!" Notice again that the focus is on Israel and God's promise to them.
So the gentiles t hat are going to be saved during the Tribulation are considered Israel and not church?
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Post by evafromgreece on Aug 5, 2016 8:50:49 GMT -5
Thank you for explaining ch. 16. Now I finished the book of John. In John 17:20-21 Jesus was praying about all of us ? Right? It is relieving to see that God is not a "distant creature" as unbelievers claim Him to be, but He cares about us and He knows how hard it is to live in this world. I m confused about chapter 20. It seems that this chapter is different from the way the previous gospels describe this event. In the previous gospels it says that Mary Magdalen and Mary they first saw the empty tomb and an angel. In John its different. Why?
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Post by evafromgreece on Aug 3, 2016 12:27:36 GMT -5
Hey guys. I am sick with gastroenteritis. I am not sure if I can make it being online. Yesterday I was really bad. Too much vomiting and diarrhea. I went to the doctor, he prescribed some meds and wrote in a paper that I should stay off work for 2 days. Last night was a disaster. I always wake up vomiting even the water. I finally manage to sleep around 6 am. :(
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Post by evafromgreece on Aug 1, 2016 15:47:09 GMT -5
"When He does, they will go through a very hard time as part of their judgment, but it's also to cleanse them and conform them into the image of His priests, and the Godly Nation He intended them to be"
and this will happen after, or during the Millennial Kingdom?
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Post by evafromgreece on Jul 28, 2016 16:00:33 GMT -5
Guys, I am on John chapter 16. In 1-4, was Jesus reffering to the trials of the disciples after His ressurection, or He talks also about something else I dont see? also from 13-15, what does these verses mean? I cannot be more specific in what I dont understand. Could you please tell me in simple words the meaning? The Holy Spirit will speak about the future and will reveal the glory of the Son of God, is this the meaning?
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Post by evafromgreece on Jul 28, 2016 15:53:15 GMT -5
In John chapter 13 Jesus teaches us to be humble and put aside our ego. Its not the first time to teach us to be humble. From His birth, to His crucifixion, He taught us how humble we should be. We are not like Him, but unfortunatelly, we as humans tend to fall into the sin of having pride... In verse 34 He insists that we should love others the way He loves us. In chapter 14:12-14 He tells us that if we truly have faith, we can do similar things to those He has done on earth! And in 21 that if we follow his commandments the Holy Spirit will live to our soul and guide us and we will live in peace (verse 27). All the above He summarizes in 15:9-17. So if somebody asks us "How we should live", we can easily answer with these 2 chapters. Very good. You said that chapter 14 tells you that if we follow His commandments that the Holy Spirit will live in us and guide us and we will live in peace. Does that mean that when we sin and do not obey Him that the Holy Spirit leaves us?
No, I think the Holy Spirit makes us notice the sin so we dont feel convenient and ok living with this, or better the Holy Spirit reveals the sin, so we are going to repent as soon as possible.
I also do not see where it says that if we follow His commandments that we will live in peace. Instead, Jesus is saying that He gives us His peace, not that we will have a peaceful life, but instead that we will have peace with God and can also have God's peace in our hearts no matter how bad things are in our life.
“But the Counselor, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have said to you. Peace I leave with you; my peace I give you. I do not give to you as the world gives. Do not let your hearts be troubled and do not be afraid.” (John 14:26–27) Yes, I didnt mean that we are not going to have any problems. I expressed it differently.
So again, what did you get from these chapters that you can apply to your life now?
Hm... Because we are not greater than Him, who was way more humble than we are, I am focusing on this. Maybe sometimes my ego is still there, even if I do not realize it, so this is a good lesson.
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Post by evafromgreece on Jul 26, 2016 15:14:39 GMT -5
In John chapter 13 Jesus teaches us to be humble and put aside our ego. Its not the first time to teach us to be humble. From His birth, to His crucifixion, He taught us how humble we should be. We are not like Him, but unfortunatelly, we as humans tend to fall into the sin of having pride... In verse 34 He insists that we should love others the way He loves us. In chapter 14:12-14 He tells us that if we truly have faith, we can do similar things to those He has done on earth! And in 21 that if we follow his commandments the Holy Spirit will live to our soul and guide us and we will live in peace (verse 27). All the above He summarizes in 15:9-17. So if somebody asks us "How we should live", we can easily answer with these 2 chapters.
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Post by evafromgreece on Jul 21, 2016 14:29:45 GMT -5
Thoughts about John chapter 11-12
I liked much to be reminded that "bad things" are not always bad. God can use bad things to reveal things to people, and as long as we have faith in Him, nothing could be really bad, because things are used for us in order to learn and to bring glory to Him. Also, death is not bad because it can lead us to be with the Lord eventually. I am not sure about 12:9-11. They want to kill also Lazarus? Was this mentioned to the other gosplels also? I might have missed something...
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Post by evafromgreece on Jul 19, 2016 12:53:04 GMT -5
I was thinking about why Jesus did so many miracles on Saturday. I think that Jesus wanted to show the importance of saving a person no matter what. I mean respecting the law was what the should do , but the biggest comandment was to love the person that is near you over yourself. Maybe, He wanted to point out what was important and what was not so important.
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Post by evafromgreece on Jul 18, 2016 14:12:51 GMT -5
Hello guys :) I am back :) The exam went well, I still dont have the results, but I believe it went well :) On our study I am up to John chapter 8. The thing is that in the previous gospels, it was much easier to go faster lets say. In John I read the same thing over and over again. I am moving to 9. And will come up with a post on these chapters. I will try for not something very long. Thank you guys. See also my post in the other thread. Maybe there is a misunderstanding about what I wrote about nations
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Post by evafromgreece on Jul 18, 2016 13:53:25 GMT -5
I'm sorry this thread doesn't flow well like it should, but having to keep waiting, I lose my train of thought, so that by the time I start writing again, I have trouble getting back to what I was originally talking about. On the other hand, because I have to wait or at least try to, it gives the Lord more time to remind me of different things that I should write about. It's funny how reading the gospels or Acts, which is what I'm reading now, can teach and remind you about things we're talking about in this thread.
The Lord brought me back to the table of nations once again last night and then again this morning during my study of Acts 2. I keep thinking about how Eva said she didn't think God was concerned about nations anymore and that thought horrifies me. Acts 2 is all about the reversal of God's judgement at the tower of Babel where He confused the languages. In Acts 2:1–13 He sends the Holy Spirit who causes everyone to be able to understand what's being said in their own language. This is a foretaste of what we will have for eternity. Remember that after God confused the languages, we were then told about the table of nations. Here in Acts 2:1–13, that is also duplicated, for after the Holy Spirit causes the people to understand everything in their own language, we are again given a list of nations. This is like an update on the table of nations we studied originally.
The reason I was so horrified that someone would think that God wasn't interested in Nations anymore is because of what Satan wants to do. He wants to be like God and be worshiped instead of God. Satan is the prince of this world, and is also called the god of this age,and the ruler of the kingdom of the air.(John 12:31; John 14:30; John 16:11; 2 Corinthians 4:4; Ephesians 2:2) Do you remember how Satan tempted our Lord at the beginning of His ministry? One of his temptations was to offer all the kingdoms (nations) of the world to Jesus if Jesus would just worship him. This is ironic because all the nations of the world belong to Jesus anyway, since He is God, but what Satan was really offering the Lord was to allow him to skip the crucifixion and have the nations as His right away instead of having to wait. Jesus did not do what Satan wanted and thus saved us all from a horrible, fate! Because Satan is the ruler of this world, he is the one who makes up the worldview that all unbelievers have, the view that we all held about this world before we were saved. Satan is the one behind the idea that we all need to have a good self esteem, and be self confident and take care of ourselves before others (the opposite of what God teaches of course); he's behind the idea that all people are basically good, and all the other things we've all been told and taught since we were babies.
God had many reasons for ordaining that we would have nations, but one of those reasons was to protect us from Satan. As long as there were nations, one person could not cause the whole world to sin. Satan has a number of goals that he wants to attain, and one of the biggest ones is that he wants to be king of the world in reality and not just in the spiritual realm. Therefore he has put into the minds of men that nations are a bad thing and that we would all be better off if the world was united under one person. To put it another way, Satan is the author of globalism. He wants to rule this world and make everyone worship him instead of God. To do that, he has to get rid of national boundaries. To unite the world he has put into men's minds that there should be only one world currency instead of a bunch of different ones from each nation. He tells men that will make it easier for them to make money and to spend money. No borders will make trade and travel much easier he tells us. Having only one form of money will make the economy much more stable, he whispers to men. Finally he tells men that the biggest problem the world has is religion and he reminds people of all the bad things that have been done in the name of different religions over the years. He doesn't want to do away with religion entirely, because ultimately he wants to make people worship him. He starts by telling people that the world could finally be at peace with one another if there was only one world religion. He makes up a new religion by mixing together the elements of all the worlds religions and offers it to the world as a way to stop war and terror and to unite mankind. Eventually he will have no more nations, but instead one world supposedly united by all having the same form of money and the same false religion.
As you can see then, the whole idea of globalism, of one united world, is not from God, it's from Satan. It's what Satan wants so he can destroy us. But Satan and the man he has prepared for this time, the antichrist, are very good at making people believe his lies, and making people think that all he wants is peace, when the truth is that what he wants is to cause humanity to worship him and to destroy all who refuse to do so. This is what he will do during the Tribulation. We are seeing the preparations for this even now. Oh! Maybe I was misunderstood! I didnt mean that nation should not exist , or that globalization is good. I meant that anyone could be saved , no matter where he is from.
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Post by evafromgreece on Jul 18, 2016 13:26:21 GMT -5
"In other words, God no longer dwelt in the Temple in Jerusalem, but instead dwelt inside every believer, no matter what race or nation they came from, or whether they were free or slaves. "
Hello guys :) I believe we were saying the same thing, but I expressed this wrong. I meant that a Jew could be part of the church, know Jesus and get saved like any other person.
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Post by evafromgreece on Jul 11, 2016 14:19:42 GMT -5
Guys, I want to apologise for not being here so many days. Its really hard this period. Too many things at work. We will also take part in an exam, in 3 days and I have to study about this. I am continuing John. Its really different from the other books, more "spiritual" lets say. Please forgive me for the little time I spent here. From Saturday I will have some days off, and things will get better and back to normal.
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Post by evafromgreece on Jul 4, 2016 15:27:57 GMT -5
Hey guys!
I finished Luke and I have studied John 1-4 I will write my thoughts on this by tommorow. Thank you
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Post by evafromgreece on Jul 4, 2016 15:18:43 GMT -5
Because of Israel's sin, God could not begin the Millennial Kingdom at Christ's first advent, and instead had to begin a new program called the Church, so the rest of the world could be saved. What then should God do with Israel? Should He just do away with them completely and figure they're not worth trying to work with any longer? Would any loving parent give up on their child because that child stubbornly continued to refuse to do what's right? We know that the Age of Grace which began with the Church has lasted a long time, and will continue until the full number of the Gentiles has come in, so what happens to Israel now that the Church has taken over her job of telling the world about God? Is the Church the "new Israel", or is there still an Israel and the Church as well?
God works with the Jews still, and He invites them to join church. I believe Israel, the wholy nation is the church now. God does not see nations now I think. And He cares about them still, but they have to join the church to get saved, like any other person.
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Post by evafromgreece on Jul 2, 2016 14:46:31 GMT -5
I want to start with something I wrote before:
I want to remind you of one last thing while you reflect on how God had set Israel apart and was teaching them and growing them up to be His Holy people. This is true for us now, just as it was true for Israel. God expects results. He is merciful and just, so when someone sins in ignorance because they do not know better, that person is not judged as harshly as the person who has been taught that it is sin and is wrong. When the person who knows it is a sin does it anyway, they are judged harshly for being disobedient. The more God teaches someone, the more that person understands, the more they are held accountable for. We would not hold anyone accountable for drinking poison if they didn't know it was poison...neither would God. But once the person is aware that it is poison, then they are held accountable to not drink it. (Luke 12:47–48; Luke 8:17–18; John 15:22 ) Reflect then on all the hundreds of years that God taught Israel, and expected her to be His priests, but they never did the job He had prepared them for.
When Jesus was born, Israel had the very best theologians in the world at that time. They knew God's Word and had been studying it for years and therefore thought they knew just exactly what to look for in their Messiah and when to look for Him. When Jesus was born most of the middle east was aware that Israel was expecting their Messiah to show up at any time, because they'd heard the Jew's talking about it. While Israel had learned some things from God's discipline in the past, they had not learned the most important thing of all, which is that God is concerned with our hearts, our attitudes and not just with us "keeping our religious duties". Certainly, there were always some people who understood that. God always has some and always did right from the very beginning. Those people who really understood are those who were truly saved, and yet often they were looked down on and even persecuted by the religious leaders of their day. So while there were a few that were truly saved at the time Jesus came, the vast majority who thought of themselves as religious and righteous, were unsaved and would remain that way because they had hardened their hearts toward God and His Word. During the time Jesus taught, there were always a few that were saved, but again out of the thousands who came to hear Him speak, most of them remained unsaved, because their hearts were hardened. (often 10,000 to 20,000 or more people came to hear Him speak) The same is true in our day. Most of the people who the world thinks of as Christians, are unsaved.
The only reason the rest of the middle east knew that the Jew's were expecting their Messiah is because they'd heard about it through gossip and rumors. It wasn't because the Jew's had seriously tried to teach others about their God. This was Israel's biggest problem and sin. They thought of God as being "their God" as though He didn't have anything to do with anyone else in the world. They thought of themselves as being special because God had chosen them and made them a nation, and called them His own people. But they forgot what God had chosen them to do. Because they thought they were so special, forgetting that God had told them that they were NOT any different then anyone else, they acted like they were better than everyone else and acted like even being near a Gentile would cause them to be "dirty". Since most of the entire world is Gentile, this caused everyone to hate the Jew's. No one likes to be told that their so sinful and dirty that a religious person can't even be in the same room with them! No one likes to over hear a Jew praying to their God and thanking God that they were not born a gentile. So the Jew's did the exact opposite of what God had commanded them to do. They were to be a holy nation of priests that taught the rest of the world about Him. Instead they isolated themselves from the rest of the world and tried to keep God to themselves. We also need to recognize that the rest of the world had constantly treated them very badly long before they isolated themselves. Asking the Jew's to tell the world about their God doesn't sound like a hard thing to do, until we remember that the people they were supposed to be telling are people who had enslaved them, and killed their ancestors, etc. So Israel felt they had good reasons to isolate themselves from the rest of the world. They were also aware that when they had mingled with the gentiles in the past, that they had been tempted by the ways the gentiles lived and fallen into sin because of it and they did not want that to happen again. They knew God had told them to be separate from the world, but they took it the wrong way. Another of their errors was that they constantly forgot that God would help them live the way He commanded them to if they asked and instead they constantly tried to do it themselves, and failed miserably because of it. That's why they made up the over 600 laws to keep them from breaking God's laws. They tried to build a fence around God's law with the laws they made up so that they wouldn't ever sin, but of course that didn't work, because they never got that it was their hearts that God was interested in.
Realizing that, helps us understand again that they really weren't any different than we are. True, and that gives an answer to a lot of things. Many people say that God was unfair to choose one nation , but explaining the role the nation should have had makes it clear
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Post by evafromgreece on Jun 27, 2016 15:33:27 GMT -5
Hey guys :) I h@ve @ problem with my ke@bord I c@nnot write "a"- I copied @nd p@ste it now, so you will know wh@t I me@n. So inste@d of this I use "@" , th@t looks simil@r, until I find wh@t is wrong.
"You mean Luke 16:19 and the story about Lazarus and the rich man who died right? First know that this is not a parable. It is a true story Jesus told about two men who lived at that time and died the way He said they did. The Jew's who lived there would have been aware of these two men since the one man was very rich. The idea that a rich man would be excluded from heaven and that a poor man would be in heaven would have made the pharisees very angry as it went against everything they believed. As far as people being in hell and being able to see into heaven goes, you have to remember that people did not go to "heaven" before Jesus was ascended. Before then, when people died they went to “Hades” (also translated as Sheol). Anyway, before Jesus ascended, when people died they went to Hades which was divided into two parts. One part was called Abraham's Bosom and that's where the righteous went when they died, those who were not saved, went into the other part of Hades which doesn't have any other name. So at that time, yes, the unsaved could see believers although as Jesus said, it seemed "far away". This is no longer true and has not been since Jesus ascended to Heaven. Remember, when He ascended to Heaven, He took all the saved out of Abraham's Bosom to Heaven with Him. “This is why it says: “When he ascended on high, he led captives in his train and gave gifts to men.” (What does “he ascended” mean except that he also descended to the lower, earthly regions? He who descended is the very one who ascended higher than all the heavens, in order to fill the whole universe.)” (Ephesians 4:8–10) All those who were in Abraham's Bosom, joined Jesus and went to Heaven with Him when He ascended. "
We h@ve discuss this @ lot before, but now I understood this completely. Th@nk you for reminding me this @nd for helping me cle@r this up.
"Luke 21:1-24 is not about the tribulation. I know it sounds a lot like it, and it is a lot like what the tribulation will be like, but that is not what Jesus is talking about here. In Luke He is warning His followers about what will happen in 70 AD."
I know in 70 @d Jerus@lem w@s destroyed. C@n we discuss this @ bit more? I know we h@ve mention this v@rious times, but this w@y I @m seeing slowly the whole picture :)
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Post by evafromgreece on Jun 26, 2016 10:00:14 GMT -5
We continue to see them sin against God all through the OT, and God would always try to turn them back to Himself, but they would refuse so eventually He would have to discipline them. When He would discipline them, they would finally repent and turn to Him and ask Him to save them (again) and He would do so. But very soon after that, they would be right back sinning again, and the cycle would start all over. This continues on for a very long time in the OT. We see God constantly trying to continue to teach them, but see them sinning yet again, and finally being disciplined, then repenting and being saved yet again. We have to remember though that these scriptures were written not just to show us how sinful Israel was, but to show us what we are like too. We can't say anything against them, because we do the very same things. “Now these things occurred as examples to keep us from setting our hearts on evil things as they did.” (1 Corinthians 10:6) “These things happened to them as examples and were written down as warnings for us, on whom the fulfillment of the ages has come. So, if you think you are standing firm, be careful that you don’t fall!” (1 Corinthians 10:11–12) Read more: fresh-hope.com/thread/2297/tribulation-more#ixzz4ChK8cQKqIts good to be reminded of this. Sometimes I fell to be very critical about the Jews , and try to find the historical consequences of their denial to Jesus. But truly we are not any better...
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Post by evafromgreece on Jun 26, 2016 9:43:01 GMT -5
I writing this in my own words, lets see if I corectly understood this. God chose Jacob instead of Esau, because He foreknew the things that Esau would do in the future. But that didnt mean Jacob was not a sinner. We all are, and God chooses people for certain perpuses because He loves them.
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Post by evafromgreece on Jun 24, 2016 15:48:12 GMT -5
Hey guys :) I finished Luke 21, and I believe I will end the book by tommorow. I have a lot to write on the chapters I studied, but its almost midnight here. So tomorrow, I have a day off work, and I will come back with my comments :) I love you guys :) Goodnight Eva, have you lost interest in the tribulation thread or did you just forget about it?
No, no, no :) I will catch up on this also :) Its almost midnight here. I will come back tomorrow in both threads. I know its difficult when I post long post with many different things... Thank you for your answers , I know its a great effort by your side also <3
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Post by evafromgreece on Jun 22, 2016 13:44:05 GMT -5
In Luke 19:11-27 Jesus is talking about how we should use arou blessings to bring fruit, right? But how do we know if we are using or blessings in a good way or not in our everyday lives? Again on Luke 21 the Lord was talking about what will happen after the church is gone from the earth, if I am not mistaken. And people that would believe to Him after would be in trouble on earth because of the devil and his followers, right?
In chapter 22:24-30 it amazes me that the disciples were talking about "who is above of the others" , just some minutes after the Lord told them that someone will betray Him and lead Him to die.
I am moving to 23
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Post by evafromgreece on Jun 22, 2016 13:30:09 GMT -5
In 15:19-31 I wondered this... Do the people in hell indeed watch people in Heaven from distance?
Luke 17, I remember we talked before about the similar chapter that is in Matthew. In Luke 17:34-36 Jesus were not talking about the rapture, as some think , but about the Second coming. It amazes me that after the rapture, and after all things that would happen then, people would not worry about what is happening and why, and they will just continue their lives and their everyday routine like nothing is happening... !
Luke 18. Jesus is focusing on how we should pray. We should faithfully ask and He will provide for us (as long we ask for something according to His will) and we have to know also that we are sinners and He does not provide for us because we are "good" or we "deserve it" but because He loves us. We have to be humble just like kids, and we should not seek material things and earthly possesions
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Post by evafromgreece on Jun 22, 2016 13:09:47 GMT -5
Hello guys!
Lets see some things I studied this period.
Chapter 14:15-25 As far as I remember from Matthew that I saw this again. Jesus was talking about the fact that He called the gentiles to form the church because the Jews didnt accept Him, right? In the whole chapter 15 Jesus talks about how precious is each one of us, every single person, and that He provides everything we need to us to know Him and be saved, and then its up to our decision. Will we follow Him, or not? I believe I am not sure about the meaning of the fist part of chapter 16, 16:1-13
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Post by evafromgreece on Jun 21, 2016 15:42:13 GMT -5
Hey guys :) I finished Luke 21, and I believe I will end the book by tommorow. I have a lot to write on the chapters I studied, but its almost midnight here. So tomorrow, I have a day off work, and I will come back with my comments :) I love you guys :) Goodnight
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Post by evafromgreece on Jun 17, 2016 15:32:29 GMT -5
Hey guys :) I managed to finish Luke 19 Sorry for not writing much about what I have studied. I will share my thoughts with you soon, I promise. Its a really hard week...
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Post by evafromgreece on Jun 14, 2016 15:23:53 GMT -5
Thank you guys for your answers :) Thank you Cindy for making clear the verses about queen Sheba and the Jews and that we should focus on things in Heaven and not earthly things. I am moving on Luke chapter 15. I will come up tomorrow and write again about whay I saw in that chapters .
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Post by evafromgreece on Jun 14, 2016 15:00:31 GMT -5
To conclude Abraham descendants are all people who have respect to the Lord, right?
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Post by evafromgreece on Jun 14, 2016 9:18:45 GMT -5
Remember too that for these particular gentiles, God gave them over 400 years to repent of their sins and turn to Him, but 99% of them refused to do so. Those who did repent, stayed with Israel, those that did not, were killed by Israel. God used Israel as His judgement against them. God was very patient with them to give them that long to repent. He warned them many times, but still they continued, so that eventually He sent Israel to conquer them and kill them.
Can we discuss the above a bit more? Did God give dirrect orders to the gentiles, just like He did to the Jews? They obviously heard what happened to the Jews when they sinned , probaby they have known from their ancestors what happened to them when they sinned. But was this direct? Did He commanded them the way He did to Jews?
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Post by evafromgreece on Jun 14, 2016 8:37:36 GMT -5
“Now Esau learned that Isaac had blessed Jacob and had sent him to Paddan Aram to take a wife from there, and that when he blessed him he commanded him, “Do not marry a Canaanite woman,” and that Jacob had obeyed his father and mother and had gone to Paddan Aram. Esau then realized how displeasing the Canaanite women were to his father Isaac; so he went to Ishmael and married Mahalath, the sister of Nebaioth and daughter of Ishmael son of Abraham, in addition to the wives he already had.” (Genesis 28:6–9)
Esau and Mahalath were related, right?
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Post by evafromgreece on Jun 13, 2016 15:41:17 GMT -5
Hey guys! Abrahan was the uncle of Lot, right?
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