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Post by fearnot on Oct 13, 2020 10:59:38 GMT -5
People often have 'doubts' about the existence of God in today's world.... and yet, they readily believe there is a programmer That programmed their computer.
However, they have never SEEN the programmer... Yet, they believe the programmer EXISTS,
because, of how 'COMPLEX' their computer is!
They would not suppose it came together, from junk in a garbage dump, and then slowly wrote (over eons of time). (accidentally and randomly), and in this way, accumulated code, that was perfect.
3 By faith we understand that the universe was created by the word of God, so that what is seen was not made out of things that are visible. Hebrews 11:3
Also
20 For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse. Romans 1:20
When thinking about 'life' Believers know God created all life.
[smear:#ab19e6]“Worthy are you, our Lord and God, to receive glory and honor and power, for you created all things, and by your will they existed and were created.” Revelation 4:11[/smear:#9ffa1c:0]
Not only that, but many numerous, elements and mechanisms have to all be in place to sustain life.
The sun has to be exactly placed ( or everything would freeze, if too far away or burn up if it was too close to earth.)
[smear:#f8a508]14 And God said, “Let there be lights in the expanse of the heavens to separate the day from the night. And let them be for signs and for seasons, and for days and years,
15 and let them be lights in the expanse of the heavens to give light upon the earth.” And it was so.
16 And God made the two great lights— the greater light to rule the day and the lesser light to rule the night— and the stars.
17 And God set them in the expanse of the heavens to give light on the earth,
Genesis 1:14-17[/smear:#e03df9:0]
Furthermore, without the sun there would be no plants or trees, thus, no oxygen and therefore, no life for us, without oxygen to breath!
Nor very little food to eat.
29 And God said, “Behold, I have given you every plant yielding seed that is on the face of all the earth, and every tree with seed in its fruit. You shall have them for food Genesis 1:29
There are hundreds if not thousands of provisions to sustain life....
Take away, even one little piece and the whole construct fails.
There is a reason and purpose for all of them.
11 For I know the plans I have for you, declares the Lord, plans for welfare and not for evil, to give you a future and a hope. Jeremiah 29:11
In addition, there is no real explanation besides God, of where morals come from: concepts of right and wrong.
Nevertheless, the devil and sinners have tried to do away with morals, God's laws.... from the beginning.
Often secular non believers will point to some primitive group, and say, see.... they don't see killing as wrong!
Right....
We don't need to go to some primitive culture to see sinners!
We all have a fallen sinful nature!
Yet no matter, we all still were also, born with a conscience! until we 'kill' it.
Now the Spirit expressly says that in later times some will depart from the faith by devoting themselves to deceitful spirits and teachings of demons, 2 through the insincerity of liars whose consciences are seared,
1 Timothy 4:1-3
Also [smear:#e6e519]15 They show that the work of the law is written on their hearts, while their conscience also bears witness, and their conflicting thoughts accuse or even excuse them Romans 2:15[/smear:#0e21be:0]
So yes, believers have 'faith' in God whom they cannot see!
However, those who do not believe in God, they cannot see...
Do believe in evolution of millions of years which they also have not seen with their eyes!
1 The fool says in his heart, “There is no God.” They are corrupt, they do abominable deeds; there is none who does good. Psalms 14:1
Children that have been taught from the moment they first step into a school....'that they are nothing but an 'evolved' animal....
is it then surprising, that they act like 'animals' ( this belief in evolution, only encourages their sin nature).
And as an aside 'selective breeding'
has never been seen to change a toad into a man...
(never mind, changed into prince charming)!
So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them. Genesis 1:27
Done for today.
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Post by Cindy on Oct 14, 2020 9:00:33 GMT -5
Actually I did NOT know that about Metaxas!!
I only came across the article about the universe ( someone sent it to me and I put it in a file just because of the info on the universe)
Oh!
I have watched Metaxas about 2 times, because he recently had MacArthur on his show....
(but none of his false ideas came up)
because he was interviewing Pastor John MacArthur about the whole Covid situation (and the church situation that Pastor MacArthur preaches at).
Again, it came up in my youtube feed, because of my interest in Pastor MacArthur.
Well, now that I know.....I won't quote him again
But I am thinking the 'universe' information was correct?
I don't think Mr. Metaxas worked out those mathematical computations by himself? rather I 'think' it came from another source..... ( some astrophysicist, or the like) That was not 'exactly' religious, but 'scientific yes?
However, I will not be quoting him again. Thank you for the information.
it is interesting, since you mentioned Metaxas went after John MacArthur for exposing the church of Rome, that MacArthur allowed an interview.
However that might show the character of MacArthur..... not holding grudges, and forgiving such a slight.
I don't know if those are correct or not. But you can google one of the quotes and find out. I just goggled the quote: "like tossing a coin and having it come up heads 10 quintillion times in a row" and came up with lots of hits including ones of Metaxas of course. So try that and see what others are saying.
People often have 'doubts' about the existence of God in today's world.... and yet, they readily believe there is a programmer That programmed their computer.
However, they have never SEEN the programmer... Yet, they believe the programmer EXISTS,
because, of how 'COMPLEX' their computer is!
They would not suppose it came together, from junk in a garbage dump, and then slowly wrote (over eons of time). (accidentally and randomly), and in this way, accumulated code, that was perfect.
3 By faith we understand that the universe was created by the word of God, so that what is seen was not made out of things that are visible. Hebrews 11:3
Also
20 For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse. Romans 1:20
When thinking about 'life' Believers know God created all life.
[smear:#ab19e6]“Worthy are you, our Lord and God, to receive glory and honor and power, for you created all things, and by your will they existed and were created.” Revelation 4:11[/smear:#9ffa1c:0]
Not only that, but many numerous, elements and mechanisms have to all be in place to sustain life.
The sun has to be exactly placed ( or everything would freeze, if too far away or burn up if it was too close to earth.)
[smear:#f8a508]14 And God said, “Let there be lights in the expanse of the heavens to separate the day from the night. And let them be for signs and for seasons, and for days and years,
15 and let them be lights in the expanse of the heavens to give light upon the earth.” And it was so.
16 And God made the two great lights— the greater light to rule the day and the lesser light to rule the night— and the stars.
17 And God set them in the expanse of the heavens to give light on the earth,
Genesis 1:14-17[/smear:#e03df9:0]
Furthermore, without the sun there would be no plants or trees, thus, no oxygen and therefore, no life for us, without oxygen to breath!
Nor very little food to eat.
29 And God said, “Behold, I have given you every plant yielding seed that is on the face of all the earth, and every tree with seed in its fruit. You shall have them for food Genesis 1:29
There are hundreds if not thousands of provisions to sustain life....
Take away, even one little piece and the whole construct fails.
There is a reason and purpose for all of them.
11 For I know the plans I have for you, declares the Lord, plans for welfare and not for evil, to give you a future and a hope. Jeremiah 29:11
In addition, there is no real explanation besides God, of where morals come from: concepts of right and wrong.
Nevertheless, the devil and sinners have tried to do away with morals, God's laws.... from the beginning.
Often secular non believers will point to some primitive group, and say, see.... they don't see killing as wrong!
Right....
We don't need to go to some primitive culture to see sinners!
We all have a fallen sinful nature!
Yet no matter, we all still were also, born with a conscience! until we 'kill' it.
Now the Spirit expressly says that in later times some will depart from the faith by devoting themselves to deceitful spirits and teachings of demons, 2 through the insincerity of liars whose consciences are seared,
1 Timothy 4:1-3
Also [smear:#e6e519]15 They show that the work of the law is written on their hearts, while their conscience also bears witness, and their conflicting thoughts accuse or even excuse them Romans 2:15[/smear:#0e21be:0]
So yes, believers have 'faith' in God whom they cannot see!
However, those who do not believe in God, they cannot see...
Do believe in evolution of millions of years which they also have not seen with their eyes!
1 The fool says in his heart, “There is no God.” They are corrupt, they do abominable deeds; there is none who does good. Psalms 14:1
Children that have been taught from the moment they first step into a school....'that they are nothing but an 'evolved' animal....
is it then surprising, that they act like 'animals' ( this belief in evolution, only encourages their sin nature).
And as an aside 'selective breeding'
has never been seen to change a toad into a man...
(never mind, changed into prince charming)!
So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them. Genesis 1:27
Done for today.
Yes, and it seems totally ridiculous to us that the unsaved can't see what seems obvious and logical to us. We often find ourselves saying something along the lines of, "how can they not see the truth of this?" But the Lord has told us why they can't see or understand the Truth. It's because Satan has blinded them to the Truth and because both their minds and their consciences are corrupted. We can see and know the truth about these things because God has removed the blinders from our eyes and has renewed out minds and cleansed our consciences. If He hadn't, we'd be just like them.... totally lost, and totally insane really when you think about it.
If you look up the word insane, the definition includes "absurd" and "foolish" thinking and behavior. Isn't it insane to believe that the universe and everything in it came together out of nothing and all by itself? That's just crazy talk! Yet it's accepted and taught in schools because to their minds it's perfectly logical. It's crazy to do something purposely to harm yourself, and yet they do that every time they sin. (of course this is also true of us before we were saved). One of the things about the unsaved I hadn't really thought much about before is that to them, because their minds and consciences are corrupted, absolutely nothing is pure. (Titus 1:15) Maybe that's why they can do things that to us are totally disgusting, but to them are just fine.
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Post by fearnot on Oct 14, 2020 10:26:41 GMT -5
Also, they have a 'god' it's science.....
But I have noticed, unlike God, who knows everything and does not Change
Science, is constantly changing as new info comes in...
so that, sometimes or even often, it will do a major flip-flop.
It kind of reminds me of the ancient 'gods', who were very capricious!
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Post by fearnot on Oct 14, 2020 11:25:08 GMT -5
Once again, I am thinking about the mindset, of many unbeliever's in the World today
Here is an example, we have been seeing a lot of lately:
"Friday, New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo (D) responded to religious groups filing separate federal lawsuits against him over his new restrictions limiting attendance at religious gatherings amid a spike in cases in some New York City neighborhoods.
but said that everyone has to “follow the rules,” no matter their religion..... “They are not following the rules......
I don’t care if you’re a Roman Catholic, you’re Jewish, you’re Muslim, you’re an atheist, you have to follow the rules of the state"
www.breitbart.com/clips/2020/10/09/gov-cuomo-i-dont-care-your-religion-you-have-to-follow-the-rules-of-the-state/
However, people, according to the first amendment of the Constitution have the right to exercise their religion , and to be free from government coercion ( against it):
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;
As Christians, we want to protect other people for sure, nevertheless, after more than 6 or 7 months
I think, we ought to consider this:
Which is priority?
Preventing people from getting a virus? or preventing them from going to Hell?
[smear:#4119e6]6 But if the watchman sees the sword coming and does not blow the trumpet, so that the people are not warned, and the sword comes and takes any one of them, that person is taken away in his iniquity, but his blood I will require at the watchman's hand. Ezekiel 33:6 [/smear:#f62e06:0]
Who will ultimately be the ruler of Christians?
Certainly, if the government, said a bomb was headed towards our church, and we must evacuate then indeed, we would follow (the government's edict)
as per these verses:
[smear:#3be619]3 Remind them to be submissive to rulers and authorities, to be obedient, to be ready for every good work, 2 to speak evil of no one, to avoid quarreling, to be gentle, and to show perfect courtesy toward all people. Titus 3:1,2[/smear:#d719e6:0]
and this verse that is most quoted in this situation of today's world:
Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God. Romans 13:1
Well......that settles it then no church perhaps, forever!
Ummmmm nooo, wait up!
There is one small wee problem.... People will often find a verse and camp on it...
without checking the 'whole' of God's word on any given subject.
Yes, we are to obey the government but there are 'exception' clauses in God's Word, the Bible:
Like:
29 But Peter and the apostles answered, “We must obey God rather than men". Acts 5:29
I think Jesus, Himself clarified this issue when He basically said, we are to obey the government ( Caesar) except, when it tries to trump God in that case we are to obey God.
21.......“Therefore render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's.” Matthew 22:21
other verses
19 But Peter and John answered them, “Whether it is right in the sight of God to listen to you rather than to God, you must judge, 20 for we cannot but speak of what we have seen and heard.” Acts 4:19,20
There are others Biblical verses about civil disobedience
being submissive and not violent opposition
Is not the same as obeying to something that is evil, and goes against what God has commanded.
For example, IF the government were to say:
in order to protect planet earth we must kill all our children ( but one) in order to reduce the population and protect other people Christians cannot obey.
or if a government should say: all woman must become prostitutes
or
should the government make a law, that we must kill all the people, of a certain group ( like the Nazi government said to kill all Jews)
or
we all must have 10 wives, or 10 husbands
or IF a government will say, (in the tribulation) that we must
denounce Jesus, make the anti-Christ our 'god' and take the mark of the beast etc. etc. etc.
These are exceptionally cases, but are things, we cannot obey our government or rulers, if they insist on these things God is against...
and thus, Christians must suffer the consequences of disobedience.
But we are not to champion violent overthrow of the evil government.
Still the question is who is to ultimately rule over us?
23 Gideon said to them, “I will not rule over you, and my son will not rule over you; the Lord will rule over you.” Judges 8:23
So if a government violates scripture and God we cannot obey.
There are several examples of disobedience to a governmental decree:
like when Jezebel commanded all the prophets of the Lord killed:
[smear:#e66519]3 And Ahab called Obadiah, who was over the household. (Now Obadiah feared the Lord greatly, 4 and when Jezebel cut off the prophets of the Lord, Obadiah took a hundred prophets and hid them by fifties in a cave and fed them with bread and water.) 1 Kings 18:3,4[/smear:#3f19e6:0]
Of course, a famous act of civil disobedience ( reminds me of the coming anti-Christ) was Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego they refused refused to bow down ( worship) to the golden idol of King Nebuchadnezzar in disobedience to King Nebuchadnezzar’s command.
[smear:#37f441]14 Nebuchadnezzar answered and said to them, “Is it true, O Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, that you do not serve my gods or worship the golden image that I have set up? Daniel 3:14[/smear:#a02f35:0]
There are other examples but those should give us an idea
However, they were willing to suffer the consequences of their disobedience
[smear:#f828a2] 16 Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego answered and said to the king, “O Nebuchadnezzar, we have no need to answer you in this matter. 17 If this be so, our God whom we serve is able to deliver us from the burning fiery furnace, and he will deliver us out of your hand, O king.
18 But if not, be it known to you, O king, that we will not serve your gods or worship the golden image that you have set up.” Daniel 3:16-18[/smear:#19e691:0]
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Post by fearnot on Oct 15, 2020 11:23:10 GMT -5
We know in the tribulation the anti-Christ will put together a one world government,
One world monetary system,
[smear:#5ce619]16 Also it causes all, both small and great, both rich and poor, both free and slave, to be marked on the right hand or the forehead, 17 so that no one can buy or sell unless he has the mark, that is, the name of the beast or the number of its name. Revelation 13:16,17[/smear:#b81d3f:0]
and a one world religion.
Though the Bible does not use those exact words, we can draw such conclusions ( that is what scripture is predicting for the future)...
and then we can have speculations ( as to how they 'might' be implemented), from what scripture does say, in Daniel, Revelation, etc.
I will kind of focus on, the one world monetary system, and the world today.
I say, 'kind of', because since believer's will be raptured before the tribulation begins....
17 Then we who are alive, who are left, will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we will always be with the Lord. 1 Thessalonians 4:17
We cannot be absolutely sure, how any of those 3 anti-Christ's tribulation situations, will precisely work out.
So, while I will look at AI in the world today.... God could send a EMP and totally destroy all of what mankind/scientists are doing in this field.
What we do know from the Bible is there will be a one-world currency and that there will be a 'mark' of some kind, and..... it will be a universal world wide system of control.
One possibility, in the world today, is AI technologies, that 'could' accomplish it very easily.
There are many AI with deep learning like IBM's Watson, combine that with 5G, and well, bingo.... This could be used by the anti-Christ.
So many people will accept the mark, in order to survive.
Just look at the overwhelming 'fear' of people today concerning this virus, and what they are willing to do, in order to survive.....
I can almost see this using fear, as a start to conditioning to this verse during the tribulation:
13 These are of one mind, and they hand over their power and authority to the beast. Revelation 17:13
However, that bring me to this:
There is 'another aspect' to the mark of the beast:
[smear:#a2e619] 9 And another angel, a third, followed them, saying with a loud voice, “If anyone worships the beast and its image and receives a mark on his forehead or on his hand,
10 he also will drink the wine of God's wrath, poured full strength into the cup of his anger, and he will be tormented with fire and sulfur in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb. 11 And the smoke of their torment goes up forever and ever, and they have no rest, day or night, these worshipers of the beast and its image, and whoever receives the mark of its name.” Revelation 14:9-11[/smear:#e3013a:0]
Just an observance of mine I think that, Today's youth are being conditioned to 'buy' according to a brand's name ( like NIKE shoes, or a computer like Apple etc. etc. etc..) I can almost, think accepting a 'mark' might be met with the same feeling of being cool.
Which also makes me also think about, how we are working towards a cashless world today.
And, how we are depending, more and more, on AI to control our finances:
"Plum helps you set aside more, invest and stops you being overcharged on bills". withplum.com/
"Acorns is a novel investment app which, when linked up to a funding account, will round up every purchase to the nearest dollar. It will then invest that money in a portfolio of stocks and bonds." www.policygenius.com/blog/acorns-review-app-portfolio-investing/
And just one more:
HR Block's AI
It has no problem going through: "massive volumes of data, which includes more than 74,000 pages of federal tax code and thousands of tax law changes every year."
It can save you a ton of money!
www.computerworld.com/article/3173283/hr-block-turns-to-ai-to-tackle-your-tax-return.html
It is not that these AI's are not useful but where is it all heading?
Where do these verses fit in.... after awhile?
[smear:#8a19e6]10 For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evils. It is through this craving that some have wandered away from the faith and pierced themselves with many pangs. 1 Timothy 6:10[/smear:#e6194c:0]
And this
8 But if we have food and clothing, with these we will be content. 1 Timothy 6:8
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Post by Cindy on Oct 15, 2020 11:49:25 GMT -5
Also, they have a 'god' it's science.....
But I have noticed, unlike God, who knows everything and does not Change
Science, is constantly changing as new info comes in...
so that, sometimes or even often, it will do a major flip-flop.
It kind of reminds me of the ancient 'gods', who were very capricious! True! Good point!
Once again, I am thinking about the mindset, of many unbeliever's in the World today
Here is an example, we have been seeing a lot of lately:
"Friday, New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo (D) responded to religious groups filing separate federal lawsuits against him over his new restrictions limiting attendance at religious gatherings amid a spike in cases in some New York City neighborhoods.
but said that everyone has to “follow the rules,” no matter their religion..... “They are not following the rules......
I don’t care if you’re a Roman Catholic, you’re Jewish, you’re Muslim, you’re an atheist, you have to follow the rules of the state"
www.breitbart.com/clips/2020/10/09/gov-cuomo-i-dont-care-your-religion-you-have-to-follow-the-rules-of-the-state/
However, people, according to the first amendment of the Constitution have the right to exercise their religion , and to be free from government coercion ( against it):
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;
As Christians, we want to protect other people for sure, nevertheless, after more than 6 or 7 months
I think, we ought to consider this:
Which is priority?
Preventing people from getting a virus? or preventing them from going to Hell?
[smear:#4119e6]6 But if the watchman sees the sword coming and does not blow the trumpet, so that the people are not warned, and the sword comes and takes any one of them, that person is taken away in his iniquity, but his blood I will require at the watchman's hand. Ezekiel 33:6 [/smear:#f62e06:0]
Who will ultimately be the ruler of Christians?
Certainly, if the government, said a bomb was headed towards our church, and we must evacuate then indeed, we would follow (the government's edict)
as per these verses:
[smear:#3be619]3 Remind them to be submissive to rulers and authorities, to be obedient, to be ready for every good work, 2 to speak evil of no one, to avoid quarreling, to be gentle, and to show perfect courtesy toward all people. Titus 3:1,2[/smear:#d719e6:0]
and this verse that is most quoted in this situation of today's world:
Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God. Romans 13:1
Well......that settles it then no church perhaps, forever!
Ummmmm nooo, wait up!
There is one small wee problem.... People will often find a verse and camp on it...
without checking the 'whole' of God's word on any given subject.
Yes, we are to obey the government but there are 'exception' clauses in God's Word, the Bible:
Like:
29 But Peter and the apostles answered, “We must obey God rather than men". Acts 5:29
I think Jesus, Himself clarified this issue when He basically said, we are to obey the government ( Caesar) except, when it tries to trump God in that case we are to obey God.
21.......“Therefore render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's.” Matthew 22:21
other verses
19 But Peter and John answered them, “Whether it is right in the sight of God to listen to you rather than to God, you must judge, 20 for we cannot but speak of what we have seen and heard.” Acts 4:19,20
There are others Biblical verses about civil disobedience
being submissive and not violent opposition
Is not the same as obeying to something that is evil, and goes against what God has commanded.
For example, IF the government were to say:
in order to protect planet earth we must kill all our children ( but one) in order to reduce the population and protect other people Christians cannot obey.
or if a government should say: all woman must become prostitutes
or
should the government make a law, that we must kill all the people, of a certain group ( like the Nazi government said to kill all Jews)
or
we all must have 10 wives, or 10 husbands
or IF a government will say, (in the tribulation) that we must
denounce Jesus, make the anti-Christ our 'god' and take the mark of the beast etc. etc. etc.
These are exceptionally cases, but are things, we cannot obey our government or rulers, if they insist on these things God is against...
and thus, Christians must suffer the consequences of disobedience.
But we are not to champion violent overthrow of the evil government.
Still the question is who is to ultimately rule over us?
23 Gideon said to them, “I will not rule over you, and my son will not rule over you; the Lord will rule over you.” Judges 8:23
So if a government violates scripture and God we cannot obey.
There are several examples of disobedience to a governmental decree:
like when Jezebel commanded all the prophets of the Lord killed:
[smear:#e66519]3 And Ahab called Obadiah, who was over the household. (Now Obadiah feared the Lord greatly, 4 and when Jezebel cut off the prophets of the Lord, Obadiah took a hundred prophets and hid them by fifties in a cave and fed them with bread and water.) 1 Kings 18:3,4[/smear:#3f19e6:0]
Of course, a famous act of civil disobedience ( reminds me of the coming anti-Christ) was Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego they refused refused to bow down ( worship) to the golden idol of King Nebuchadnezzar in disobedience to King Nebuchadnezzar’s command.
[smear:#37f441]14 Nebuchadnezzar answered and said to them, “Is it true, O Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, that you do not serve my gods or worship the golden image that I have set up? Daniel 3:14[/smear:#a02f35:0]
There are other examples but those should give us an idea
However, they were willing to suffer the consequences of their disobedience
[smear:#f828a2] 16 Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego answered and said to the king, “O Nebuchadnezzar, we have no need to answer you in this matter. 17 If this be so, our God whom we serve is able to deliver us from the burning fiery furnace, and he will deliver us out of your hand, O king.
18 But if not, be it known to you, O king, that we will not serve your gods or worship the golden image that you have set up.” Daniel 3:16-18[/smear:#19e691:0]
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Well done! I like how you ended it with what Daniel's friends said to the king!
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Post by fearnot on Oct 15, 2020 12:22:44 GMT -5
Thank you again...as always!
Oh so I was a slow poke today and today's post is above yours LOL Soooo I will post it below, so you won't have to go hunting for it haha
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Post by fearnot on Oct 15, 2020 12:23:11 GMT -5
We know in the tribulation the anti-Christ will put together a one world government,
One world monetary system,
[smear:#5ce619]16 Also it causes all, both small and great, both rich and poor, both free and slave, to be marked on the right hand or the forehead, 17 so that no one can buy or sell unless he has the mark, that is, the name of the beast or the number of its name. Revelation 13:16,17[/smear:#b81d3f:0]
and a one world religion.
Though the Bible does not use those exact words, we can draw such conclusions ( that is what scripture is predicting for the future)...
and then we can have speculations ( as to how they 'might' be implemented), from what scripture does say, in Daniel, Revelation, etc.
I will kind of focus on, the one world monetary system, and the world today.
I say, 'kind of', because since believer's will be raptured before the tribulation begins....
17 Then we who are alive, who are left, will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we will always be with the Lord. 1 Thessalonians 4:17
We cannot be absolutely sure, how any of those 3 anti-Christ's tribulation situations, will precisely work out.
So, while I will look at AI in the world today.... God could send a EMP and totally destroy all of what mankind/scientists are doing in this field.
What we do know from the Bible is there will be a one-world currency and that there will be a 'mark' of some kind, and..... it will be a universal world wide system of control.
One possibility, in the world today, is AI technologies, that 'could' accomplish it very easily.
There are many AI with deep learning like IBM's Watson, combine that with 5G, and well, bingo.... This could be used by the anti-Christ.
So many people will accept the mark, in order to survive.
Just look at the overwhelming 'fear' of people today concerning this virus, and what they are willing to do, in order to survive.....
I can almost see this using fear, as a start to conditioning to this verse during the tribulation:
13 These are of one mind, and they hand over their power and authority to the beast. Revelation 17:13
However, that bring me to this:
There is 'another aspect' to the mark of the beast:
[smear:#a2e619] 9 And another angel, a third, followed them, saying with a loud voice, “If anyone worships the beast and its image and receives a mark on his forehead or on his hand,
10 he also will drink the wine of God's wrath, poured full strength into the cup of his anger, and he will be tormented with fire and sulfur in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb. 11 And the smoke of their torment goes up forever and ever, and they have no rest, day or night, these worshipers of the beast and its image, and whoever receives the mark of its name.” Revelation 14:9-11[/smear:#e3013a:0]
Just an observance of mine I think that, Today's youth are being conditioned to 'buy' according to a brand's name ( like NIKE shoes, or a computer like Apple etc. etc. etc..) I can almost, think accepting a 'mark' might be met with the same feeling of being cool.
Which also makes me also think about, how we are working towards a cashless world today.
And, how we are depending, more and more, on AI to control our finances:
"Plum helps you set aside more, invest and stops you being overcharged on bills". withplum.com/
"Acorns is a novel investment app which, when linked up to a funding account, will round up every purchase to the nearest dollar. It will then invest that money in a portfolio of stocks and bonds." www.policygenius.com/blog/acorns-review-app-portfolio-investing/
And just one more:
HR Block's AI
It has no problem going through: "massive volumes of data, which includes more than 74,000 pages of federal tax code and thousands of tax law changes every year."
It can save you a ton of money!
www.computerworld.com/article/3173283/hr-block-turns-to-ai-to-tackle-your-tax-return.html
It is not that these AI's are not useful but where is it all heading?
Where do these verses fit in.... after awhile?
[smear:#8a19e6]10 For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evils. It is through this craving that some have wandered away from the faith and pierced themselves with many pangs. 1 Timothy 6:10[/smear:#e6194c:0]
And this
8 But if we have food and clothing, with these we will be content. 1 Timothy 6:8
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Post by Cindy on Oct 16, 2020 8:19:17 GMT -5
We know in the tribulation the anti-Christ will put together a one world government,
One world monetary system,
[smear:#5ce619]16 Also it causes all, both small and great, both rich and poor, both free and slave, to be marked on the right hand or the forehead, 17 so that no one can buy or sell unless he has the mark, that is, the name of the beast or the number of its name. Revelation 13:16,17[/smear:#b81d3f:0]
and a one world religion.
Though the Bible does not use those exact words, we can draw such conclusions ( that is what scripture is predicting for the future)...
and then we can have speculations ( as to how they 'might' be implemented), from what scripture does say, in Daniel, Revelation, etc.
I will kind of focus on, the one world monetary system, and the world today.
I say, 'kind of', because since believer's will be raptured before the tribulation begins....
17 Then we who are alive, who are left, will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we will always be with the Lord. 1 Thessalonians 4:17
We cannot be absolutely sure, how any of those 3 anti-Christ's tribulation situations, will precisely work out.
So, while I will look at AI in the world today.... God could send a EMP and totally destroy all of what mankind/scientists are doing in this field.
What we do know from the Bible is there will be a one-world currency and that there will be a 'mark' of some kind, and..... it will be a universal world wide system of control.
One possibility, in the world today, is AI technologies, that 'could' accomplish it very easily.
There are many AI with deep learning like IBM's Watson, combine that with 5G, and well, bingo.... This could be used by the anti-Christ.
So many people will accept the mark, in order to survive.
Just look at the overwhelming 'fear' of people today concerning this virus, and what they are willing to do, in order to survive.....
I can almost see this using fear, as a start to conditioning to this verse during the tribulation:
13 These are of one mind, and they hand over their power and authority to the beast. Revelation 17:13
However, that bring me to this:
There is 'another aspect' to the mark of the beast:
[smear:#a2e619] 9 And another angel, a third, followed them, saying with a loud voice, “If anyone worships the beast and its image and receives a mark on his forehead or on his hand,
10 he also will drink the wine of God's wrath, poured full strength into the cup of his anger, and he will be tormented with fire and sulfur in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb. 11 And the smoke of their torment goes up forever and ever, and they have no rest, day or night, these worshipers of the beast and its image, and whoever receives the mark of its name.” Revelation 14:9-11[/smear:#e3013a:0]
Just an observance of mine I think that, Today's youth are being conditioned to 'buy' according to a brand's name ( like NIKE shoes, or a computer like Apple etc. etc. etc..) I can almost, think accepting a 'mark' might be met with the same feeling of being cool.
Which also makes me also think about, how we are working towards a cashless world today.
And, how we are depending, more and more, on AI to control our finances:
"Plum helps you set aside more, invest and stops you being overcharged on bills". withplum.com/
"Acorns is a novel investment app which, when linked up to a funding account, will round up every purchase to the nearest dollar. It will then invest that money in a portfolio of stocks and bonds." www.policygenius.com/blog/acorns-review-app-portfolio-investing/
And just one more:
HR Block's AI
It has no problem going through: "massive volumes of data, which includes more than 74,000 pages of federal tax code and thousands of tax law changes every year."
It can save you a ton of money!
www.computerworld.com/article/3173283/hr-block-turns-to-ai-to-tackle-your-tax-return.html
It is not that these AI's are not useful but where is it all heading?
Where do these verses fit in.... after awhile?
[smear:#8a19e6]10 For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evils. It is through this craving that some have wandered away from the faith and pierced themselves with many pangs. 1 Timothy 6:10[/smear:#e6194c:0]
And this
8 But if we have food and clothing, with these we will be content. 1 Timothy 6:8
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Interesting! I hadn't considered that, but it certainly could be true.
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Post by fearnot on Oct 16, 2020 12:03:18 GMT -5
Two news items caught my eye today and I think they are related.
The first news item is: the Vatican is minting a new coin. One might think, since the Catholic church is supposed to be made up of Christians...
Then one might think, this new coin, would be a coin having to do with Jesus or some personage in the Bible
But no!!!
"The celebration of life on earth is a commitment to take care of the planet, a project to which the Church intends to offer its support.... depicting a mother carrying the earth in her womb, to whom we owe care and love .... with long ears of wheat in her hair, in a reference between past and future that becomes timeless, and therefore eternal
www.ufn.va/en/home/2507-16-10-2020-moneta-10-euro-ag-fs-2020-50-ann-g-terra.html
So, I wonder, where does this verse fit into the Catholic church?
15 Do not love the world or the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him. 1 John 2:15
The other news item was about a British scientist, who was greatly riled up concerning, an 11 year old sermon by Pastor John MacArthur.
The news article by this British 'scientist is titled:
‘God intended it as a disposable planet’: meet the US pastor preaching climate change denial
Several things struck me as odd about that news commentary:
First, was why did he wait, 11 years to become so upset? It sounds to me like he is suggesting something is wrong from the start , because Pastor MacArthur believes the 'whole' Bible:
"He ( meaning Pastor John MacArthur) regards the infallibility of the Bible, from Genesis to Revelation, as essential to his faith, and his sermon about global warming can only be understood in that context.
And another odd thing was, he also mentions... ( attacks, I would say is more like it) other Christian ministries
MacArthur’s rejection of the science is shared by other major US ministries and organisations such as Answers in Genesis, Creation Ministries International and the Discovery Institute."
! would like to point out that Answers in Genesis is filled with PHD scientists!!!!!
But in addition, to basically calling these Christians pastors and scientists, ignorant:
"......the most complete compilation of unsound arguments, factual errors and misleading analogies as I have seen in discussions of this subject".
I found it very very odd he would say this:
".....while Joe Biden promises a “clean air revolution”."
theconversation.com/god-intended-it-as-a-disposable-planet-meet-the-us-pastor-preaching-climate-change-denial-147712
And about 4 minutes into this video you can see the sermon by Pastor John, that so agitated this British 'scientist'
I could not find the whole sermon on Grace to You But this gives one a very good idea of what MacArthur said I personally thought it was great!
Speaking of this atheist scientist I think he is being a 'bit' disingenuous, because, even secular scientists, believe earth is 'disposable'.
They know, the sun will die in the future and turn into a red giant and burn the earth up.
( well, actually it is God but the idea it is not going to last, is the same)
So there is no real disagreement, (as to the final disposal issue except for the timing) of this verse:
10 But the day of the Lord will come like a thief, and then the heavens will pass away with a roar, and the heavenly bodies will be burned up and dissolved, ... 2 Peter 3:10
Nor can atheists/scientists truly disagree with this verse:
Lift up your eyes to the heavens, and look at the earth beneath; for the heavens vanish like smoke, the earth will wear out like a garment, and they who dwell in it will die in like manner Isaiah 51:6
and note the first words, which indicts the earth is 'temporary'
22 While the earth remains, seed time and harvest, cold and heat, summer and winter, day and night, shall not cease.” Genesis 8:22
Christians are not called to: 'save this planet'...
Instead, we are called to:
19 Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, Matthew 28:19
But I wonder if this vehement push to 'save the planet'....
might lead to saying, we MUST depopulate the world....
in order to 'fix' climate change?
Here is a rather small, but kind of disquieting example:
The Georgia Guidestones
and the very first of it's 10 commandments is:
1 – Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature.
#3 – Unite humanity with a living new language. ( that is interesting, considering God confused the one language)
7 Come, let us go down and there confuse their language, so that they may not understand one another's speech.” Genesis 11:7
And going right along with limiting population these 'commandments' also say:
10 – Be not a cancer on the earth – Leave room for nature.
scribol.com/anthropology-and-history/occult/the-georgia-guidestones-10-masonic-commandments/
Kind of the opposite from:
1 And God blessed Noah and his sons and said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth. Genesis 9:1
7 And you, be fruitful and multiply, increase greatly on the earth and multiply in it.” Genesis 9:7
So as for me, I am going with what God says:
The earth is the Lord's and the fullness thereof, the world and those who dwell therein, Psalms 24:1
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Post by fearnot on Oct 17, 2020 12:10:25 GMT -5
Some more news that caught my eye today I had not heard much about CERN in a long while and Lo and Behold I ,having 'just' talked a little about multiverses, a few days back....
What do I see today?:
Researchers At Large Hadron Collider Are Confident To Make Contact With Parallel Universe In Days
www.sciencenatures.com/2020/10/researchers-at-large-hadron-collider.html
I feel like this should have a major major WARNING! WARNING! WARNING sign attached to it!
The brilliant scientists at CERN, have been tinkering with this as their goal, ( my opinion) right from the get-go!!!
However, IF they do manage to make contact.....
I think, they will almost certainly be contacting the demonic fallen angels realm of existence!!! (the abyss)
No it's not the tribulation yet... So tho they will not be releasing the demons for the fallen angels of the tribulation,
and tho, CERN is only 'talking ' about 'black holes' and gravity etc.'
I am of the opinion this is 'more' the truth of what they are messing with:
[smear:#0e9082]9 The coming of the lawless one is by the activity of Satan with all power and false signs and wonders,
10 and with all wicked deception for those who are perishing, because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. 11 Therefore God sends them a strong delusion, so that they may believe what is false, 2 Thessalonians 2:9-11 [/smear:#e65819:0]
What CERN scientists may actually release... reminds me of the tribulation, and these verses:
11 They (demons, fallen angels) have as king over them the angel of the bottomless pit. His name in Hebrew is Abaddon, and in Greek he is called Apollyon. Revelation 9:11
And
[smear:#35c45c]13 Then the sixth angel blew his trumpet, and I heard a voice from the four horns of the golden altar before God, 14 saying to the sixth angel who had the trumpet, “Release the four angels who are bound at the great river Euphrates.” 15 So the four angels, who had been prepared for the hour, the day, the month, and the year, were released to kill a third of mankind. Revelation 9:13-15[/smear:#e61941:0] And then there was this in the news Today:
"Pope Francis to attend interreligious peace event in Rome
"In addition to Pope Francis, other participants will include:
Ecumenical Patriarch Bartholomew I of Constantinople;
Haim Korsia, Chief Rabbi of France;
Mohamed Abdelsalam Abdellatif, the Muslim General Secretary of the Higher Committee of Human Fraternity;
and Buddhist Shoten Minegishi.
(as I see this unity, it is), Chrislam or BuddhistChrist or Chrislambudd or any number of mixing religions together in an unholy conglomeration.
In any case The theme will be:
“No one is saved alone — Peace and Fraternity”.
www.catholicworldreport.com/2020/10/16/pope-francis-to-attend-interreligious-peace-event-in-rome/
Ummm I think that is totally 'wrong'!!! we are saved by Christ....alone!!!!
12 And there is salvation in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved. Acts 4:12
We are not to be 'mean' to other religions, on the other hand, we are not to join with them, and mix Christian doctrine with theirs.
24 For false christs and false prophets will arise and perform great signs and wonders, so as to lead astray, if possible, even the elect.
Matthew 24:24
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Post by fearnot on Oct 18, 2020 11:04:05 GMT -5
While in the world today, we have the pope, on one hand,
pushing for a 'unity' of religions, heading towards the acceptance of , a one world religion....
6 And I saw the woman, drunk with the blood of the saints, the blood of the martyrs of Jesus.
When I saw her, I marveled greatly. Revelation 17:6
On the other hand, as per usual, China is cracking down more and more on Christianity:
China bans copying of hymns, punishes Christians who print religious materials
“I don’t even dare to make copies of two sheets with religious hymns because of strict investigations,” the worker said. “I was told to report anyone who comes to copy religious materials.”
A worker at another shop told Bitter Winter, “If we are not sure if a text is religious, we must keep its copy and report it to authorities.....
Last month, Chen Yu, a Christian who operated his online bookstore in Zhejiang province’s Taizhou city, was sentenced to seven years in prison and fined 200,000 RMB ($29,450) for selling unapproved religious publications.
The CCP has also amped up measures to destroy religious symbols. In the first half of 2020 alone, over 900 crosses were removed from state-run churches across China.
This month, it was reported that CCP officials ordered dozens of churches to replace crosses with the five-pointed star, the symbol featured on the country’s flag to represent the CCP and its role in the nation.
www.christianpost.com/news/china-bans-christians-from-photocopying-hymns-religious-material.html
There was a time, when I could not have imagined, the 'states' in the USA , insisting on what churches in our country, could and could NOT do...
and yet here we are.... there is a very bad flu...
and Lo and behold Churches are: NOT to met but rather they are to OBEY the 'state' (the government) not to sing etc. etc.
And even in our country today some parts of the Bible...
even here in the USA, is considered 'hate' speech for not being 'inclusive'
The 'great prostitute' in the Bible, is considered to be the 'one world religion' (with everyone worshiping the anti-Christ)....
Thus it seems , one possibility would be....
a pluralistic view, with all religions melded and mixed together, as one. ( a one world religion)
I think we are seeing many who support this even now....
and it is being carefully, sometimes often... and sometimes, very forcefully....
being developed, and implemented today:
3 For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions, 4 and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander off into myths. 2 Timothy 4:3,4
It will be consider a 'good thing' because of being: inclusive and tolerant and being 'sincere' in any religion will be the only doctrine needed.
The only 'sin' will be:
if one believes in absolute truth of Jesus (alone) as needed for our salvation:
13 “Pay attention to all that I have said to you, and make no mention of the names of other gods, nor let it be heard on your lips. Exodus 23:13
Also this verse
11 This Jesus is the stone that was rejected by you, the builders, which has become the cornerstone.
12 And there is salvation in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.” Acts 4:11,12
Note: Jesus did NOT say:
I AM one of many ways nor did He say He was:
one of many different truths etc.
Instead He said He was
"THE" truth as in the ONLY ONE Truth
6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. John 14:6
What we are being asked to do today, ( by many church leader), is essentially to embrace apostasy.
Even with the push to unite all religions....
The hostility towards Christianity Jesus and Christians..... has not abated but continues to grow worse
Like ....in the New York times last March we read the headline titled:
The Religious Right’s Hostility to Science Is Crippling Our Coronavirus Response
www.nytimes.com/2020/03/27/opinion/coronavirus-trump-evangelicals.html
18 “If the world hates you, know that it has hated me ( Jesus) before it hated you. John 15:18
There is one form of 'intolerance' that is acceptable is:
To mock, scorn, and ridicule Christians and Christianity, it has also been encouraged in academia, entertainment. and the media, (ever since I was in college, back in the 60's).
But the hostility has grown much more violent over the years.
Nevertheless:
15 And if it is evil in your eyes to serve the Lord, choose this day whom you will serve, whether the gods your fathers served in the region beyond the River, or the gods of the Amorites in whose land you dwell.
But as for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.” Joshua 24:15
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Post by fearnot on Oct 19, 2020 10:37:09 GMT -5
I was thinking about 'one' of the excuses unbelievers give as to why they dislike Christianity and the Bible:
Too many do's and don'ts!
They don't want God demanding compliance. They want to be 'free' rebels as it were. They don't want anyone telling them what to do not parents, police, and certainly not God!
They want to do what they want to do ( which is mostly sin without guilt).
8 For the one who sows to his own flesh will from the flesh reap corruption, but the one who sows to the Spirit will from the Spirit reap eternal life. Galatians 6:8
God's commandments are a grave burden to unbelievers, and not burdensome to believers:
3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments. And his commandments are not burdensome. 1 John 5:3
Unbelievers tend to see God's commandments as constraints that deaden their creativity imagination artistry self expression visualization fancy etc. etc. etc.
The unbelievers of the world, hatred of God's commandments is based on: 'SELF' and SIN.
Folly is a joy to him who lacks sense, but a man of understanding walks straight ahead. Proverbs 15:21
They realize, ( and are not happy).... that God does not make rules based on:
Their 'feelings' wants wishes desires etc,
He does not rule by consensus, or by vote It is not a democracy based on 'fairness'....
And therefore, they do not see any 'advantage', to being a believer.
We have all become like one who is unclean, and all our righteous deeds are like a polluted garment. We all fade like a leaf, and our iniquities, like the wind, take us away.
7 There is no one who calls upon your name, who rouses himself to take hold of you; for you have hidden your face from us, and have made us melt in the hand of our iniquities. Isaiah 64:6,7
So why do Christians want to obey God? Firstly, they are so grateful for what Jesus has done for them.... He has paid for all their sins so they may have eternal life with Him.
The unbeliever by their stubborn insistence of SELF and SIN ( unless they turn to God)
will not only, miss out on God's love and benefits in this world, but in eternity to come.
Jesus said:
24 Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life. He does not come into judgment, but has passed from death to life. John 5:24
Those who do not want God, will be apart from Him in eternity also
46 And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.” Matthew 25:46
What unbelievers are misunderstanding ( and don't really want to know) is that God's rules, commandments etc. are for our benefit and that He gave to us out of love.
6 The Lord passed before him and proclaimed, “The Lord, the Lord, a God merciful and gracious, slow to anger, and abounding in steadfast love and faithfulness, Exodus 34:6 Note: The word in the next verse is 'love' not 'lust' or makes 'me' feel good..
People today have little understanding about what 'love really is.
However, we are experts at anger and self and sin in today's world
8 Anyone who does not love does not know God, because God is love. 1 John 4:8
Love as 'sacrifice', is not something many of us really know about
Even Christians often struggle with that concept.
But then, that is why they (we, me) are willing to come under God's rules to learn to really love.
This was the greatest demonstration of real love that ever was or will be:
16 “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. John 3:16
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Post by Cindy on Oct 19, 2020 10:39:18 GMT -5
Two news items caught my eye today and I think they are related.
The first news item is: the Vatican is minting a new coin. One might think, since the Catholic church is supposed to be made up of Christians...
Then one might think, this new coin, would be a coin having to do with Jesus or some personage in the Bible
But no!!!
"The celebration of life on earth is a commitment to take care of the planet, a project to which the Church intends to offer its support.... depicting a mother carrying the earth in her womb, to whom we owe care and love .... with long ears of wheat in her hair, in a reference between past and future that becomes timeless, and therefore eternal
www.ufn.va/en/home/2507-16-10-2020-moneta-10-euro-ag-fs-2020-50-ann-g-terra.html
So, I wonder, where does this verse fit into the Catholic church?
15 Do not love the world or the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him. 1 John 2:15
The other news item was about a British scientist, who was greatly riled up concerning, an 11 year old sermon by Pastor John MacArthur.
The news article by this British 'scientist is titled:
‘God intended it as a disposable planet’: meet the US pastor preaching climate change denial
Several things struck me as odd about that news commentary:
First, was why did he wait, 11 years to become so upset? It sounds to me like he is suggesting something is wrong from the start , because Pastor MacArthur believes the 'whole' Bible:
"He ( meaning Pastor John MacArthur) regards the infallibility of the Bible, from Genesis to Revelation, as essential to his faith, and his sermon about global warming can only be understood in that context.
And another odd thing was, he also mentions... ( attacks, I would say is more like it) other Christian ministries
MacArthur’s rejection of the science is shared by other major US ministries and organisations such as Answers in Genesis, Creation Ministries International and the Discovery Institute."
! would like to point out that Answers in Genesis is filled with PHD scientists!!!!!
But in addition, to basically calling these Christians pastors and scientists, ignorant:
"......the most complete compilation of unsound arguments, factual errors and misleading analogies as I have seen in discussions of this subject".
I found it very very odd he would say this:
".....while Joe Biden promises a “clean air revolution”."
theconversation.com/god-intended-it-as-a-disposable-planet-meet-the-us-pastor-preaching-climate-change-denial-147712
And about 4 minutes into this video you can see the sermon by Pastor John, that so agitated this British 'scientist'
I could not find the whole sermon on Grace to You But this gives one a very good idea of what MacArthur said I personally thought it was great!
Speaking of this atheist scientist I think he is being a 'bit' disingenuous, because, even secular scientists, believe earth is 'disposable'.
They know, the sun will die in the future and turn into a red giant and burn the earth up.
( well, actually it is God but the idea it is not going to last, is the same)
So there is no real disagreement, (as to the final disposal issue except for the timing) of this verse:
10 But the day of the Lord will come like a thief, and then the heavens will pass away with a roar, and the heavenly bodies will be burned up and dissolved, ... 2 Peter 3:10
Nor can atheists/scientists truly disagree with this verse:
Lift up your eyes to the heavens, and look at the earth beneath; for the heavens vanish like smoke, the earth will wear out like a garment, and they who dwell in it will die in like manner Isaiah 51:6
and note the first words, which indicts the earth is 'temporary'
22 While the earth remains, seed time and harvest, cold and heat, summer and winter, day and night, shall not cease.” Genesis 8:22
Christians are not called to: 'save this planet'...
Instead, we are called to:
19 Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, Matthew 28:19
But I wonder if this vehement push to 'save the planet'....
might lead to saying, we MUST depopulate the world....
in order to 'fix' climate change?
Here is a rather small, but kind of disquieting example:
The Georgia Guidestones
and the very first of it's 10 commandments is:
1 – Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature.
#3 – Unite humanity with a living new language. ( that is interesting, considering God confused the one language)
7 Come, let us go down and there confuse their language, so that they may not understand one another's speech.” Genesis 11:7
And going right along with limiting population these 'commandments' also say:
10 – Be not a cancer on the earth – Leave room for nature.
scribol.com/anthropology-and-history/occult/the-georgia-guidestones-10-masonic-commandments/
Kind of the opposite from:
1 And God blessed Noah and his sons and said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth. Genesis 9:1
7 And you, be fruitful and multiply, increase greatly on the earth and multiply in it.” Genesis 9:7
So as for me, I am going with what God says:
The earth is the Lord's and the fullness thereof, the world and those who dwell therein, Psalms 24:1
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I think this has all been planned out by Satan. He wants to kill Christians and wants to prevent people from being saved. One big way to do that in his mind is to get rid of the Bible. So the more people who can point to the Bible and "prove" that it's all just a bunch of lies and hate speech, the sooner the government will be able to declare it off limits and forbid people from having one. It doesn't matter that most of them even know they're lying about the Bible, they just want to have their way and will stop at nothing to get it.
Some more news that caught my eye today I had not heard much about CERN in a long while and Lo and Behold I ,having 'just' talked a little about multiverses, a few days back....
What do I see today?:
Researchers At Large Hadron Collider Are Confident To Make Contact With Parallel Universe In Days
www.sciencenatures.com/2020/10/researchers-at-large-hadron-collider.html
I feel like this should have a major major WARNING! WARNING! WARNING sign attached to it!
The brilliant scientists at CERN, have been tinkering with this as their goal, ( my opinion) right from the get-go!!!
However, IF they do manage to make contact.....
I think, they will almost certainly be contacting the demonic fallen angels realm of existence!!! (the abyss)
No it's not the tribulation yet... So tho they will not be releasing the demons for the fallen angels of the tribulation,
and tho, CERN is only 'talking ' about 'black holes' and gravity etc.'
I am of the opinion this is 'more' the truth of what they are messing with:
[smear:#0e9082]9 The coming of the lawless one is by the activity of Satan with all power and false signs and wonders,
10 and with all wicked deception for those who are perishing, because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. 11 Therefore God sends them a strong delusion, so that they may believe what is false, 2 Thessalonians 2:9-11 [/smear:#e65819:0]
What CERN scientists may actually release... reminds me of the tribulation, and these verses:
11 They (demons, fallen angels) have as king over them the angel of the bottomless pit. His name in Hebrew is Abaddon, and in Greek he is called Apollyon. Revelation 9:11
And
[smear:#35c45c]13 Then the sixth angel blew his trumpet, and I heard a voice from the four horns of the golden altar before God, 14 saying to the sixth angel who had the trumpet, “Release the four angels who are bound at the great river Euphrates.” 15 So the four angels, who had been prepared for the hour, the day, the month, and the year, were released to kill a third of mankind. Revelation 9:13-15[/smear:#e61941:0] And then there was this in the news Today:
"Pope Francis to attend interreligious peace event in Rome
"In addition to Pope Francis, other participants will include:
Ecumenical Patriarch Bartholomew I of Constantinople;
Haim Korsia, Chief Rabbi of France;
Mohamed Abdelsalam Abdellatif, the Muslim General Secretary of the Higher Committee of Human Fraternity;
and Buddhist Shoten Minegishi.
(as I see this unity, it is), Chrislam or BuddhistChrist or Chrislambudd or any number of mixing religions together in an unholy conglomeration.
In any case The theme will be:
“No one is saved alone — Peace and Fraternity”.
www.catholicworldreport.com/2020/10/16/pope-francis-to-attend-interreligious-peace-event-in-rome/
Ummm I think that is totally 'wrong'!!! we are saved by Christ....alone!!!!
12 And there is salvation in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved. Acts 4:12
We are not to be 'mean' to other religions, on the other hand, we are not to join with them, and mix Christian doctrine with theirs.
24 For false christs and false prophets will arise and perform great signs and wonders, so as to lead astray, if possible, even the elect.
Matthew 24:24
Done for Today It's interesting that people are already working for the antichrist and getting the world ready for him isn't it? But I seriously doubt if humans have the ability to reach any demons that are in the abyss, as it is a prison for demons that are so evil that God won't allow them access to the earth. “And I saw an angel coming down out of heaven, having the key to the Abyss and holding in his hand a great chain.” (Revelation 20:1) Only an angel that has the key to the abyss can open it, and the only time we see it opened is when they're throwing Satan into it. If they are going to contact demons, it would be demons that have been messing around with humans for thousands of years.
While in the world today, we have the pope, on one hand,
pushing for a 'unity' of religions, heading towards the acceptance of , a one world religion....
6 And I saw the woman, drunk with the blood of the saints, the blood of the martyrs of Jesus.
When I saw her, I marveled greatly. Revelation 17:6
On the other hand, as per usual, China is cracking down more and more on Christianity:
China bans copying of hymns, punishes Christians who print religious materials
“I don’t even dare to make copies of two sheets with religious hymns because of strict investigations,” the worker said. “I was told to report anyone who comes to copy religious materials.”
A worker at another shop told Bitter Winter, “If we are not sure if a text is religious, we must keep its copy and report it to authorities.....
Last month, Chen Yu, a Christian who operated his online bookstore in Zhejiang province’s Taizhou city, was sentenced to seven years in prison and fined 200,000 RMB ($29,450) for selling unapproved religious publications.
The CCP has also amped up measures to destroy religious symbols. In the first half of 2020 alone, over 900 crosses were removed from state-run churches across China.
This month, it was reported that CCP officials ordered dozens of churches to replace crosses with the five-pointed star, the symbol featured on the country’s flag to represent the CCP and its role in the nation.
www.christianpost.com/news/china-bans-christians-from-photocopying-hymns-religious-material.html
There was a time, when I could not have imagined, the 'states' in the USA , insisting on what churches in our country, could and could NOT do...
and yet here we are.... there is a very bad flu...
and Lo and behold Churches are: NOT to met but rather they are to OBEY the 'state' (the government) not to sing etc. etc.
And even in our country today some parts of the Bible...
even here in the USA, is considered 'hate' speech for not being 'inclusive'
The 'great prostitute' in the Bible, is considered to be the 'one world religion' (with everyone worshiping the anti-Christ)....
Thus it seems , one possibility would be....
a pluralistic view, with all religions melded and mixed together, as one. ( a one world religion)
I think we are seeing many who support this even now....
and it is being carefully, sometimes often... and sometimes, very forcefully....
being developed, and implemented today:
3 For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions, 4 and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander off into myths. 2 Timothy 4:3,4
It will be consider a 'good thing' because of being: inclusive and tolerant and being 'sincere' in any religion will be the only doctrine needed.
The only 'sin' will be:
if one believes in absolute truth of Jesus (alone) as needed for our salvation:
13 “Pay attention to all that I have said to you, and make no mention of the names of other gods, nor let it be heard on your lips. Exodus 23:13
Also this verse
11 This Jesus is the stone that was rejected by you, the builders, which has become the cornerstone.
12 And there is salvation in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.” Acts 4:11,12
Note: Jesus did NOT say:
I AM one of many ways nor did He say He was:
one of many different truths etc.
Instead He said He was
"THE" truth as in the ONLY ONE Truth
6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. John 14:6
What we are being asked to do today, ( by many church leader), is essentially to embrace apostasy.
Even with the push to unite all religions....
The hostility towards Christianity Jesus and Christians..... has not abated but continues to grow worse
Like ....in the New York times last March we read the headline titled:
The Religious Right’s Hostility to Science Is Crippling Our Coronavirus Response
www.nytimes.com/2020/03/27/opinion/coronavirus-trump-evangelicals.html
18 “If the world hates you, know that it has hated me ( Jesus) before it hated you. John 15:18
There is one form of 'intolerance' that is acceptable is:
To mock, scorn, and ridicule Christians and Christianity, it has also been encouraged in academia, entertainment. and the media, (ever since I was in college, back in the 60's).
But the hostility has grown much more violent over the years.
Nevertheless:
15 And if it is evil in your eyes to serve the Lord, choose this day whom you will serve, whether the gods your fathers served in the region beyond the River, or the gods of the Amorites in whose land you dwell.
But as for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.” Joshua 24:15
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Very good! And keep in mind that before all of this many churches were closed, sold, or converted into mosques all over Europe. Here in the US it was mainly Catholic churches that have been closed and sold, but some others have as well. But as you've pointed out now we're hearing more and more about religions joining together and being unified for various reasons. People will find something that everyone is willing to say is bad, and then get all the different religions together to do something about that bad thing, even if it's only to pray about it. Then there's lots of news about how all the religions united over it. But there's always a problem when this happens, because there's always one group that simply will not join in or be part of it, the true Christians. Plenty of fake Christians will, and of course they'll be seen as the "real" ones who are loving and we'll be seen as the evil ones who are hateful. In this too it seems many have been working for the antichrist and preparing the way for him.
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Post by fearnot on Oct 19, 2020 11:54:18 GMT -5
I was thinking about 'one' of the excuses unbelievers give as to why they dislike Christianity and the Bible:
Too many do's and don'ts!
They don't want God demanding compliance. They want to be 'free' rebels as it were. They don't want anyone telling them what to do not parents, police, and certainly not God!
They want to do what they want to do ( which is mostly sin without guilt).
8 For the one who sows to his own flesh will from the flesh reap corruption, but the one who sows to the Spirit will from the Spirit reap eternal life. Galatians 6:8
God's commandments are a grave burden to unbelievers, and not burdensome to believers:
3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments. And his commandments are not burdensome. 1 John 5:3
Unbelievers tend to see God's commandments as constraints that deaden their creativity imagination artistry self expression visualization fancy etc. etc. etc.
The unbelievers of the world, hatred of God's commandments is based on: 'SELF' and SIN.
Folly is a joy to him who lacks sense, but a man of understanding walks straight ahead. Proverbs 15:21
They realize, ( and are not happy).... that God does not make rules based on:
Their 'feelings' wants wishes desires etc,
He does not rule by consensus, or by vote It is not a democracy based on 'fairness'....
And therefore, they do not see any 'advantage', to being a believer.
We have all become like one who is unclean, and all our righteous deeds are like a polluted garment. We all fade like a leaf, and our iniquities, like the wind, take us away.
7 There is no one who calls upon your name, who rouses himself to take hold of you; for you have hidden your face from us, and have made us melt in the hand of our iniquities. Isaiah 64:6,7
So why do Christians want to obey God? Firstly, they are so grateful for what Jesus has done for them.... He has paid for all their sins so they may have eternal life with Him.
The unbeliever by their stubborn insistence of SELF and SIN ( unless they turn to God)
will not only, miss out on God's love and benefits in this world, but in eternity to come.
Jesus said:
24 Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life. He does not come into judgment, but has passed from death to life. John 5:24
Those who do not want God, will be apart from Him in eternity also
46 And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.” Matthew 25:46
What unbelievers are misunderstanding ( and don't really want to know) is that God's rules, commandments etc. are for, our benefit and that He gave them to us, out of love.
6 The Lord passed before him and proclaimed, “The Lord, the Lord, a God merciful and gracious, slow to anger, and abounding in steadfast love and faithfulness, Exodus 34:6 Note: The word in the next verse is 'love' not 'lust' or makes 'me' feel good..
People today have little understanding about what 'love really is.
However, we are experts at anger and self and sin in today's world
8 Anyone who does not love does not know God, because God is love. 1 John 4:8
Love as 'sacrifice', is not something many of us really know about
Even Christians often struggle with that concept.
But then, that is why Christians (we, and me) are willing to come under God's rules... to learn to really love.
This was the greatest demonstration of real love (sacrifice) that ever was, or ever will be:
16 “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. John 3:16
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Post by fearnot on Oct 19, 2020 12:04:46 GMT -5
True....NOT the 'abyss' but "it would be demons that have been messing around with humans for thousands of years."
I do think the very idea of Cern scientists being:
'Confident' To Make Contact With Parallel Universe
is folly and the epitome of 'mad' scientists!!!
But I agree, it sure seems like, all manner of preparations are being set up, for the coming of anti-Christ....planned out by Satan.
The world has made major turns this year, in that direction....I think.
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Post by Cindy on Oct 20, 2020 10:53:40 GMT -5
I got a phone call from my precious 10 year old granddaughter last night. She was crying and didn't know what to do. Her "best friend" had told her that she had a crush on someone so Gracie and the other girls were all trying to guess who it was, and were naming all the boys they thought were cute. Finally when they give up, the girl tells them she's decided she's "bi" and has a crush on another girl! This is a ten your old! And of course since her mother is new age and with the "in crowd", her mom fully supports her being bisexual instead of explaining to her what's really going on. I told Gracie that her friend wasn't bi, that she was just trying it out to see what it was like, kind of like someone might try on clothes. I told her to continue to be the girls friend. She asked what to do if the girl started talking about being "bi" because she didn't want to hear that kind of stuff (Thank you Lord!!!!), so I told her to just tell her friend that talking about that makes her uncomfortable and ask her to change the subject. She agreed she could do that. I felt so bad for her. My heart just broke that she has to deal with this garbage, just like her brother had to deal with it last year, but at least he was 13 when it started. (still too young to have to deal with it, but better then being 10.) All I could do is ask the Lord to come get us so the children don't have to deal with this anymore. I'm so glad that this world is not my home!
I was thinking about 'one' of the excuses unbelievers give as to why they dislike Christianity and the Bible:
Too many do's and don'ts!
They don't want God demanding compliance. They want to be 'free' rebels as it were. They don't want anyone telling them what to do not parents, police, and certainly not God!
They want to do what they want to do ( which is mostly sin without guilt).
8 For the one who sows to his own flesh will from the flesh reap corruption, but the one who sows to the Spirit will from the Spirit reap eternal life. Galatians 6:8
God's commandments are a grave burden to unbelievers, and not burdensome to believers:
3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments. And his commandments are not burdensome. 1 John 5:3
Unbelievers tend to see God's commandments as constraints that deaden their creativity imagination artistry self expression visualization fancy etc. etc. etc.
The unbelievers of the world, hatred of God's commandments is based on: 'SELF' and SIN.
Folly is a joy to him who lacks sense, but a man of understanding walks straight ahead. Proverbs 15:21
They realize, ( and are not happy).... that God does not make rules based on:
Their 'feelings' wants wishes desires etc,
He does not rule by consensus, or by vote It is not a democracy based on 'fairness'....
And therefore, they do not see any 'advantage', to being a believer.
We have all become like one who is unclean, and all our righteous deeds are like a polluted garment. We all fade like a leaf, and our iniquities, like the wind, take us away.
7 There is no one who calls upon your name, who rouses himself to take hold of you; for you have hidden your face from us, and have made us melt in the hand of our iniquities. Isaiah 64:6,7
So why do Christians want to obey God? Firstly, they are so grateful for what Jesus has done for them.... He has paid for all their sins so they may have eternal life with Him.
The unbeliever by their stubborn insistence of SELF and SIN ( unless they turn to God)
will not only, miss out on God's love and benefits in this world, but in eternity to come.
Jesus said:
24 Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life. He does not come into judgment, but has passed from death to life. John 5:24
Those who do not want God, will be apart from Him in eternity also
46 And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.” Matthew 25:46
What unbelievers are misunderstanding ( and don't really want to know) is that God's rules, commandments etc. are for, our benefit and that He gave them to us, out of love.
6 The Lord passed before him and proclaimed, “The Lord, the Lord, a God merciful and gracious, slow to anger, and abounding in steadfast love and faithfulness, Exodus 34:6 Note: The word in the next verse is 'love' not 'lust' or makes 'me' feel good..
People today have little understanding about what 'love really is.
However, we are experts at anger and self and sin in today's world
8 Anyone who does not love does not know God, because God is love. 1 John 4:8
Love as 'sacrifice', is not something many of us really know about
Even Christians often struggle with that concept.
But then, that is why Christians (we, and me) are willing to come under God's rules... to learn to really love.
This was the greatest demonstration of real love (sacrifice) that ever was, or ever will be:
16 “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. John 3:16
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Very true! But I think it's important to also point out that no one can simply decide to love God, and no one can truly selflessly love another human being. The only way any human can love God or another person is if God the Father first draws the person to Jesus and then Jesus opens their minds and hearts to His Gospel and saves them. Then, at salvation God pours His love into our hearts by the Holy Spirit (Romans 5:5). It's because of Him giving us His love, His ability to love His way, that we can then truly love Him, love and understand His Word, and love others. Paul said, “you yourselves are taught by God to love one another” (1 Thess. 4:9). The capacity to love others is available within us once we've been saved; it's even listed as the first "fruit of the spirit in Gal 5:22-23.
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Post by fearnot on Oct 20, 2020 11:10:28 GMT -5
I know what you mean about a 10 year old and thinking she is bi.
In our complex there is a gay mom with kind of rotating gay women 'lovers' in and out. However, this gay mom has a 9 year old daughter, who has to deal with a 'new' mom every 6 months or so.
Then the young girl 12 year old, living with our daughter ( her fiancee daughter),
was being bombarded, every single day, last year, by her female teacher about gayness....
until finally, she began to think maybe she was was bi. claiming she 'tried' a boyfriend, and that did not work out.... Sooooooo she thought she was into girls.
Since the kids have not been in school ( well they do virtual school)
I have not heard her saying that recently
But... she hangs out with the next door neighbor child ( the one with the gay mom)
So......they talk a lot about all manner of things....
Come to think of it, the gay mom's 'lovers' all seem to have had, at least one child..... which seems odd, in itself.
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Post by fearnot on Oct 20, 2020 11:50:18 GMT -5
It is kind of strange, last night , I saw 2 short videos on Cern upgrading it's collider
And then, it occurred to me, that this might be one of the main explanations of the rapture when it happens!!!!
This in 2008
"...when the Large Hadron Collider (LHC) first started up on September 10, 2008, director for research and scientific computing at CERN, Sergio Bertolucci, provoked a whirlwind of speculation with his enigmatic remark that the LHC might open a door to another dimension. During a regular briefing at CERN headquarters, he told reporters, “Out of this door might come something,
or we might send something through it.
I wonder if this is another setting up for the the Antichrist to suggest that is what happened to the believers at the rapture?
Mir Faizal, one of the three-strong group of physicists behind this experiment, said a while back:
“Just as many parallel sheets of paper, which are two-dimensional objects [breadth and length] can exist during a dimension [height], parallel universes can even exist in higher dimensions"
www.skywatchtv.com/2020/10/18/cern-we-are-confident-of-making-contact-with-a-parallel-universe-this-week-out-of-this-door-might-come-something/
This is the path of those who have foolish confidence; yet after them people approve of their boasts. Psalm 49:13
I had no recollection that CERN started up in 2008!!! and I can only imagine,
The immeasurable amount of money that has gone down this ''rabbit hole'" (They are underground)!
These scientists most certainly have the highest IQ's in the world today and yet.... they are MAD (in my opinion)
The fool says in his heart, “There is no God.” They are corrupt, they do abominable deeds; there is none who does good. Psalm 14:1
Oh sure, they call it ALICE supposedly meaning:
A Large Ion Collider Experiment, rrright....
No, I think, it really IS an Alice in wonderland experiment that as far as I know, has done nothing for humanity?
It is important to note that it is Shiva’s statue that welcomes visitors to CERN’s headquarters in Geneva.
Again ,the 'cover story' is ( as I see it) Shiva being about destruction and rebuilding (transforming), and since they are smashing atoms... well there you go
But but those trying to backtrack fact check etc on this news about CERN and what is it trying to do the fact checkers are saying:
It's not that 'wacky multiverse' theory ( oh by the way......that scientists invented)
It's really about gravity that will leak into a kind of sort of parallel universe....
and of course black holes or extra dimensions
Back to the Mir Faizal, quotes:
"“As gravity can effuse of our universe into the additional dimensions, such a model may be tested by the detection of mini black holes at the LHC.”
Well that is reassuring...NOT! That sounds more and more like a demonic realm, to me.
Remember this, O Lord, how the enemy scoffs, and a foolish people reviles your name. Psalm 74:18
The 'new' news is :
CERN have updated the collider
and
Cern plans even larger hadron collider for physics search
"Physicists hope that such collisions at these unprecedented high energies will reveal a new realm of particles that really make the Universe tick, rather than the sub-atomic pretenders we know of, which play only a part in mediating the forces of nature."
Galaxies were rotating faster than they should be and the expansion of the Universe is accelerating rather than slowing down. On top of that, the Standard Model cannot explain gravity.
So there must be a deeper process going on, involving yet to be discovered particles. Uncovering them would provide physicists with their much sought after theory of everything,
www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-46862486
They do not need to spend who knows how much more to build this bigger Hadron Collider
here is the answer to their much sought after 'theory of everything' only this is not a 'theory' but the TRUTH
1 In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth. Genesis 1:1
And about the deeper process going on:
16 For by him (Jesus) all things were created, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities— all things were created through him and for him. 17 And he is before all things,
and in him all things hold together.
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Post by Cindy on Oct 21, 2020 7:27:33 GMT -5
I know what you mean about a 10 year old and thinking she is bi.
In our complex there is a gay mom with kind of rotating gay women 'lovers' in and out. However, this gay mom has a 9 year old daughter, who has to deal with a 'new' mom every 6 months or so.
Then the young girl 12 year old, living with our daughter ( her fiancee daughter),
was being bombarded, every single day, last year, by her female teacher about gayness....
until finally, she began to think maybe she was was bi. claiming she 'tried' a boyfriend, and that did not work out.... Sooooooo she thought she was into girls.
Since the kids have not been in school ( well they do virtual school)
I have not heard her saying that recently
But... she hangs out with the next door neighbor child ( the one with the gay mom)
So......they talk a lot about all manner of things....
Come to think of it, the gay mom's 'lovers' all seem to have had, at least one child..... which seems odd, in itself. Yeah I remember you telling me about that. It's horrible that children today are put in this position!
It is kind of strange, last night , I saw 2 short videos on Cern upgrading it's collider
And then, it occurred to me, that this might be one of the main explanations of the rapture when it happens!!!!
This in 2008
"...when the Large Hadron Collider (LHC) first started up on September 10, 2008, director for research and scientific computing at CERN, Sergio Bertolucci, provoked a whirlwind of speculation with his enigmatic remark that the LHC might open a door to another dimension. During a regular briefing at CERN headquarters, he told reporters, “Out of this door might come something,
or we might send something through it.
I wonder if this is another setting up for the the Antichrist to suggest that is what happened to the believers at the rapture?
Mir Faizal, one of the three-strong group of physicists behind this experiment, said a while back:
“Just as many parallel sheets of paper, which are two-dimensional objects [breadth and length] can exist during a dimension [height], parallel universes can even exist in higher dimensions"
www.skywatchtv.com/2020/10/18/cern-we-are-confident-of-making-contact-with-a-parallel-universe-this-week-out-of-this-door-might-come-something/
This is the path of those who have foolish confidence; yet after them people approve of their boasts. Psalm 49:13
I had no recollection that CERN started up in 2008!!! and I can only imagine,
The immeasurable amount of money that has gone down this ''rabbit hole'" (They are underground)!
These scientists most certainly have the highest IQ's in the world today and yet.... they are MAD (in my opinion)
The fool says in his heart, “There is no God.” They are corrupt, they do abominable deeds; there is none who does good. Psalm 14:1
Oh sure, they call it ALICE supposedly meaning:
A Large Ion Collider Experiment, rrright....
No, I think, it really IS an Alice in wonderland experiment that as far as I know, has done nothing for humanity?
It is important to note that it is Shiva’s statue that welcomes visitors to CERN’s headquarters in Geneva.
Again ,the 'cover story' is ( as I see it) Shiva being about destruction and rebuilding (transforming), and since they are smashing atoms... well there you go
But but those trying to backtrack fact check etc on this news about CERN and what is it trying to do the fact checkers are saying:
It's not that 'wacky multiverse' theory ( oh by the way......that scientists invented)
It's really about gravity that will leak into a kind of sort of parallel universe....
and of course black holes or extra dimensions
Back to the Mir Faizal, quotes:
"“As gravity can effuse of our universe into the additional dimensions, such a model may be tested by the detection of mini black holes at the LHC.”
Well that is reassuring...NOT! That sounds more and more like a demonic realm, to me.
Remember this, O Lord, how the enemy scoffs, and a foolish people reviles your name. Psalm 74:18
The 'new' news is :
CERN have updated the collider
and
Cern plans even larger hadron collider for physics search
"Physicists hope that such collisions at these unprecedented high energies will reveal a new realm of particles that really make the Universe tick, rather than the sub-atomic pretenders we know of, which play only a part in mediating the forces of nature."
Galaxies were rotating faster than they should be and the expansion of the Universe is accelerating rather than slowing down. On top of that, the Standard Model cannot explain gravity.
So there must be a deeper process going on, involving yet to be discovered particles. Uncovering them would provide physicists with their much sought after theory of everything,
www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-46862486
They do not need to spend who knows how much more to build this bigger Hadron Collider
here is the answer to their much sought after 'theory of everything' only this is not a 'theory' but the TRUTH
1 In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth. Genesis 1:1
And about the deeper process going on:
16 For by him (Jesus) all things were created, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities— all things were created through him and for him. 17 And he is before all things,
and in him all things hold together.
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Yeah, that would make a good cover story wouldn't it?
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Post by fearnot on Oct 21, 2020 10:12:37 GMT -5
Oh thank you for agreeing I have been following CERN for years now
It's been like a mystery novel
Of course, I do not understand physics and from what I can see from my point of view, I don't think I would ever want to ( do I really want to be stark raving mad??? LOL)
If the greatest brains in the world today have been at this for almost 20 years
and the money spent of this...'project' keeps going down the 'rabbit hole'
and I cannot find anything that it has done for mankind except spend a ton of money
But then, after reading quotes from these mad geniuses I began to wonder and think
This could be another angle Satan and the anti-Christ could use
And it takes 'time' to get people to think a certain way.....
So they keep on
But now they will build another one 4 times as large!!! And with 1,000 times more power...
( I think that is what I read, I would have to go check but it only makes sense it will be more powerful)
and.... there are others all over the world
Sooooo that could be a great cover story for how and where a bunch of Christians disappear.
But in the meantime I wonder IF there are any negative repercussions in our world today (like I don't know, earthquakes, volcanoes)
I don't see a date for this article put out by CERN but at the time it was written ( I think a few years back?)
It said this:
"All the magnets on the LHC are electromagnets. The main dipoles generate powerful 8.3 tesla magnetic fields –
more than 100,000 times more powerful than the Earth’s magnetic field.
home.cern/science/engineering/pulling-together-superconducting-electromagnets
Now that one sentence alone does not sound reassuring to me!!!!!!!!!! :o :-S
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Post by fearnot on Oct 21, 2020 10:25:55 GMT -5
Yes, it is so very sad what kids today have to put up with now!
There was a time, they might have chores to do ....bummer LOL and would just go play..
or study
Go to church
But school was about the 3 r's ( not porno sex ed at 4 years old) Who knew how idyllic that was, in comparison to today's world!
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Post by fearnot on Oct 21, 2020 11:07:45 GMT -5
John MacArthur, has just posted this article in his blog and since I am having to run and get ready for a prayer group today, This will be super short and I would like to look at just a bit of it
But here is the link, for those who might want to read it in full.
Is the Evangelical Movement Really "Evangelical"? blog.tms.edu/is-the-evangelical-movement-really-evangelical
I think, the main idea, is how, even in the Christian's world changing the meaning of words is sadly happening also.
To the point, many who call themselves: Evangelical are not 'really' Christians at all however they are:
"He is therefore "woke," culturally savvy, politically liberal, and (by his own assessment) deeply spiritual"
Therefore the 'gospel, as the ONLY way, to heaven is narrow, and bigoted, Instead, he magnanimously believes God accepts all paths and all religions if they are sincere... not this:
10 And the gospel must first be proclaimed to all nations. Mark 13:10
15 And he said to them, “Go into all the world and proclaim the gospel to the whole creation. Mark 16:15
Nevertheless, in order to give the 'good news' we have to also talk about the 'bad news" SIN
and many 'so called' evangelicals, do not believe God has any wrath towards:
'errors', being born that way, mistakes a different life style etc. etc.
They most certainly do not even like to say out loud the word sin, and are sooo woke... To the point that they instead:
Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter! Isaiah 5:20
These pseudo Evangelical Christians believe, people are 'basically' good instead of sinful,
That is not what God says
The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately sick; who can understand it? Jeremiah 17:9
And
21 For from within, out of the heart of man, come evil thoughts, sexual immorality, theft, murder, adultery, Mark 7:21
This
23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, Romans 3:23
Done for today
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Post by fearnot on Oct 22, 2020 11:55:27 GMT -5
It is hard for me to know about so many people today ( and throughout history) how they manage to sin and do wrong excusing their thoughts and actions as being:
right honorable merited moral compassionate merciful sympathetic etc.
And yet.... Deep down they know it is, nevertheless, wrong.
Here is an interesting example I saw in the news 2 days ago:
Should journalists rethink objectivity? Stanford professors weigh in
"Journalists need to be overt and candid advocates for social justice, and it’s hard to do that under the constraints of objectivity,” said Ted Glasser, communications professor at Stanford,
For him, objectivity and social justice are in conflict, and he urged that journalism “free itself from this notion of objectivity to develop a sense of social justice.”
www.stanforddaily.com/2020/08/20/should-journalists-rethink-objectivity-stanford-professors-weigh-in/
In a way, these professors seem to be saying, by not being 'objective'
one is taking the moral high ground, of compassion and that makes it right to throw out the 'old' way of journalism of being:
unbiased nondiscriminatory unprejudiced etc.
or more to the point, the old notion of journalism following this: Tell the truth.....the whole truth.
I am seeing excuses for not telling the whole truth because, indeed it is true there has always been discrimination
However, in order to make up for past bigotry and racism....
These men are saying ( so it seems to me) that it would be okay to write very biased news.
And this 'sounds ' so compassionate so caring so right
but.... However....
this is more sounding a bit like what the 'author of lies' would recommend
[smear:#19e659]44 You are of your father the devil, and your will is to do your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks out of his own character, for he is a liar and the father of lies. John 8:44[/smear:#f930a3:0]
To me, not being objective would be to overlook omit pass over leave out distain etc.
Any good deeds done by those you wish to chastise berate flog scourge
And not even bother to find out what is their story.
6 “You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor. Exodus 20:16
However, this verse is true not only, in the 'spiritual world' but in the material world:
32 "and you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.” John 8:32
Even if these professors believe that they are doing the Lord’s work, (which I kind of doubt is the real motivation for most of them) by paying back the white race for its evil deeds by fudging the truth or just not giving credit due etc. in other words, enacting vengeance for those who cannot avenge themselves
But God says:
[smear:#33c45a]15 Rejoice with those who rejoice, weep with those who weep. 16 Live in harmony with one another. Do not be haughty, but associate with the lowly. Never be wise in your own sight.
17 Repay no one evil for evil, but give thought to do what is honorable in the sight of all.
18 If possible, so far as it depends on you, live peaceably with all.
19 Beloved, never avenge yourselves, but leave it to the wrath of God, for it is written, “Vengeance is mine, I will repay, says the Lord.” Romans 12:15-19[/smear:#e619e0:0]
Done for today
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Post by Cindy on Oct 23, 2020 10:29:00 GMT -5
Oh thank you for agreeing I have been following CERN for years now
It's been like a mystery novel
Of course, I do not understand physics and from what I can see from my point of view, I don't think I would ever want to ( do I really want to be stark raving mad??? LOL)
If the greatest brains in the world today have been at this for almost 20 years
and the money spent of this...'project' keeps going down the 'rabbit hole'
and I cannot find anything that it has done for mankind except spend a ton of money
But then, after reading quotes from these mad geniuses I began to wonder and think
This could be another angle Satan and the anti-Christ could use
And it takes 'time' to get people to think a certain way.....
So they keep on
But now they will build another one 4 times as large!!! And with 1,000 times more power...
( I think that is what I read, I would have to go check but it only makes sense it will be more powerful)
and.... there are others all over the world
Sooooo that could be a great cover story for how and where a bunch of Christians disappear.
But in the meantime I wonder IF there are any negative repercussions in our world today (like I don't know, earthquakes, volcanoes)
I don't see a date for this article put out by CERN but at the time it was written ( I think a few years back?)
It said this:
"All the magnets on the LHC are electromagnets. The main dipoles generate powerful 8.3 tesla magnetic fields –
more than 100,000 times more powerful than the Earth’s magnetic field.
home.cern/science/engineering/pulling-together-superconducting-electromagnets
Now that one sentence alone does not sound reassuring to me!!!!!!!!!! :o :-S
The greatest brains in the world today??? I hardly think so! Not unless they're true believers, because otherwise their minds are corrupted and they can't understand anything truthfully! God knows what they're doing and they can't do anything unless He allows it. So we have nothing to worry about. Yes, it is so very sad what kids today have to put up with now!
There was a time, they might have chores to do ....bummer LOL and would just go play..
or study
Go to church
But school was about the 3 r's ( not porno sex ed at 4 years old) Who knew how idyllic that was, in comparison to today's world! For sure!
John MacArthur, has just posted this article in his blog and since I am having to run and get ready for a prayer group today, This will be super short and I would like to look at just a bit of it
But here is the link, for those who might want to read it in full.
Is the Evangelical Movement Really "Evangelical"? blog.tms.edu/is-the-evangelical-movement-really-evangelical
I think, the main idea, is how, even in the Christian's world changing the meaning of words is sadly happening also.
To the point, many who call themselves: Evangelical are not 'really' Christians at all however they are:
"He is therefore "woke," culturally savvy, politically liberal, and (by his own assessment) deeply spiritual"
Therefore the 'gospel, as the ONLY way, to heaven is narrow, and bigoted, Instead, he magnanimously believes God accepts all paths and all religions if they are sincere... not this:
10 And the gospel must first be proclaimed to all nations. Mark 13:10
15 And he said to them, “Go into all the world and proclaim the gospel to the whole creation. Mark 16:15
Nevertheless, in order to give the 'good news' we have to also talk about the 'bad news" SIN
and many 'so called' evangelicals, do not believe God has any wrath towards:
'errors', being born that way, mistakes a different life style etc. etc.
They most certainly do not even like to say out loud the word sin, and are sooo woke... To the point that they instead:
Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter! Isaiah 5:20
These pseudo Evangelical Christians believe, people are 'basically' good instead of sinful,
That is not what God says
The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately sick; who can understand it? Jeremiah 17:9
And
21 For from within, out of the heart of man, come evil thoughts, sexual immorality, theft, murder, adultery, Mark 7:21
This
23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, Romans 3:23
Done for today
True, there are many people who are going to be saying, "but Lord".... and He will say, "I never knew you!"
It is hard for me to know about so many people today ( and throughout history) how they manage to sin and do wrong excusing their thoughts and actions as being:
right honorable merited moral compassionate merciful sympathetic etc.
And yet.... Deep down they know it is, nevertheless, wrong.
Here is an interesting example I saw in the news 2 days ago:
Should journalists rethink objectivity? Stanford professors weigh in
"Journalists need to be overt and candid advocates for social justice, and it’s hard to do that under the constraints of objectivity,” said Ted Glasser, communications professor at Stanford,
For him, objectivity and social justice are in conflict, and he urged that journalism “free itself from this notion of objectivity to develop a sense of social justice.”
www.stanforddaily.com/2020/08/20/should-journalists-rethink-objectivity-stanford-professors-weigh-in/
In a way, these professors seem to be saying, by not being 'objective'
one is taking the moral high ground, of compassion and that makes it right to throw out the 'old' way of journalism of being:
unbiased nondiscriminatory unprejudiced etc.
or more to the point, the old notion of journalism following this: Tell the truth.....the whole truth.
I am seeing excuses for not telling the whole truth because, indeed it is true there has always been discrimination
However, in order to make up for past bigotry and racism....
These men are saying ( so it seems to me) that it would be okay to write very biased news.
And this 'sounds ' so compassionate so caring so right
but.... However....
this is more sounding a bit like what the 'author of lies' would recommend
[smear:#19e659]44 You are of your father the devil, and your will is to do your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks out of his own character, for he is a liar and the father of lies. John 8:44[/smear:#f930a3:0]
To me, not being objective would be to overlook omit pass over leave out distain etc.
Any good deeds done by those you wish to chastise berate flog scourge
And not even bother to find out what is their story.
6 “You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor. Exodus 20:16
However, this verse is true not only, in the 'spiritual world' but in the material world:
32 "and you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.” John 8:32
Even if these professors believe that they are doing the Lord’s work, (which I kind of doubt is the real motivation for most of them) by paying back the white race for its evil deeds by fudging the truth or just not giving credit due etc. in other words, enacting vengeance for those who cannot avenge themselves
But God says:
[smear:#33c45a]15 Rejoice with those who rejoice, weep with those who weep. 16 Live in harmony with one another. Do not be haughty, but associate with the lowly. Never be wise in your own sight.
17 Repay no one evil for evil, but give thought to do what is honorable in the sight of all.
18 If possible, so far as it depends on you, live peaceably with all.
19 Beloved, never avenge yourselves, but leave it to the wrath of God, for it is written, “Vengeance is mine, I will repay, says the Lord.” Romans 12:15-19[/smear:#e619e0:0]
Done for today
LOL I've heard it all now! It shouldn't surprise me though that the media is not finding excuses for their lies.
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Post by fearnot on Oct 23, 2020 11:39:19 GMT -5
I am so blessed to have you as a sister in Christ!! :D
I totally agree the CERN scientists have IQ's that are way off the chart and yet, like you said
their minds are corrupted, so much so they really can't understand anything in truth!
( sometimes it almost seems like little boys playing smash up with toy trucks and the like)
And though I do not know any of them obviously so this is only a generalization and my personal viewpoint, that I have received in my life from those who are 'scientists'
Is an arrogant view of Christians as narrow minded and not very intelligent
But as I see it, they are also 'narrow minded' They will not look at the Bible, hear a sermon etc.
I admit, I am indeed 'narrow minded' I stick with God as my ONLY source of truth and yes, that is pretty narrow!!!
13 “Enter by the narrow gate. For the gate is wide and the way is easy that leads to destruction, and those who enter by it are many. 14 For the gate is narrow and the way is hard that leads to life, and those who find it are few. Matthew 7:13-14
However, from time to time, I do look at what these scientific folks with super high IQ's are thinking, saying and doing
which is more than what most of them are willing to do, as far as Christianity goes (so it seems to me...)
My most recent experience ( non experience of 5-10 years ago) is with my PHD scientist daughter in law
who would not engage in any thing to do with the gospel... not one word.... it is in her mind it is a banned, closed door, 'crime against humanity' LOL
She told me years ago, that she and my son had their own views on everything and I was to respect their views and that was that
I was left wondering but why don't I get the same?
Thankful, you told me NOT to bring up anything about anything LOL
Sadly, I have messed up a few times with my son and it was not good!!
But for the most part I have obeyed their rules of engagement..
which is not to have a relationship at all with her....
and very minimal with son
so......
I used to wish I had such a super off the chart high IQ but now..... I have changed my perspective some on that
Looking at what just a high ability in math etc. brings to the table with no foundation in 'Truth'.....
Is in the end very sad.
HA! I got off on a crazy rant huh....
well back to actual Bible.
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Post by fearnot on Oct 23, 2020 12:05:15 GMT -5
This is a bit more random
I was thinking how the secular culture for the most part believes there is no right or wrong... They believe it depends on:
the culture
it can and does change over time
your 'wrong' is not mine, ( the individual gets to decide for herself or himself, what they think or 'feel' is right or wrong for them) They are a law unto themselves ( and in many ways, 'survival of the fittest' fits in this nicely... or, not so nice, or compassionately)
If it feels good, and does not hurt anybody, it is not 'wrong' or a sin
There are no 'absolutes' ( it depends on the situation) otherwise known as 'situational ethics'
there is no 'god' one has to be accountable to
They believe every thing is : 'relative'
Life has no real meaning etc.
And yet, none of these beliefs are logical... especially in the world today where being a 'victim' is almost like the highest badge of superiority one can gain.....
Except.....
IF there is no right or wrong, there cannot be any 'victims'
IF truth is 'relative', then nothing is wrong or right
Instead this next verse is what unbelieving secular culture thinking is:
[smear:#19e6b3]19 For what can be known about God is plain to them, because God has shown it to them. 20 For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made.
So they are without excuse.
21 For although they knew God, they did not honor him as God or give thanks to him,
but they became futile in their thinking, and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Claiming to be wise, they became fools, Romans 1:19-22 [/smear:#e619cc:0]
Believing every thing is 'relative' means: no 'victims' can ever cry out to others or to God, about his or her injustice, that was done to them.
After all your wrong is my 'right', even IF my right you consider your wrong.
[smear:#26b636] O Lord, how long shall I cry for help, and you will not hear? Or cry to you “Violence!” and you will not save? 3 Why do you make me see iniquity, and why do you idly look at wrong? Destruction and violence are before me; strife and contention arise. 4 So the law is paralyzed, and justice never goes forth. For the wicked surround the righteous; so justice goes forth perverted. Habakkuk 1:1-4[/smear:#e63b19:0]
But the secular folks of today have decided that, although they have deemed:
There are no wrongs or rights...
There are some 'wrongs' that they will fix! (double speak)
They have determined to be both judge and jury.
However, based on God's word I don't think it will come to a good end.
I know, O Lord, that the way of man is not in himself, that it is not in man who walks to direct his steps. Jeremiah 10:23
when we see 'peaceful riots' (more double speak)....
I think of this:
2 You shall not fall in with the many to do evil, nor shall you bear witness in a lawsuit, siding with the many, so as to pervert justice, Exodus 23:2
You do not right ......a wrong by doing wrong.
God says there is good and evil and we will be held accountable ( unless your sins have been paid for by Jesus but even then, there are often consequences, in this world)
10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each one may receive what is due for what he has done in the body, whether good or evil. 2 Corinthians 5:10
People seem to be able to easily deceive themselves in thinking that IF by doing a wrong in 'love' , and because of compassion,
it will 'magically' turn into: a 'good'
However, they have no way to foresee some ( or all) of the evil outcomes, they may have created for others... because, remember, they are doing a 'wrong'!
Done for Today
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Post by fearnot on Oct 24, 2020 12:30:41 GMT -5
I was thinking today, about how many multiple 'rabbit' holes there are in today's world, that we Christians, ( and certainly me in particular), can be tempted to chase down into with unbelievers in the world today.
The rabbit holes are just too many to list but a few would be:
politics gender and sexual issues abortion religion, cults, spirituality flu and viruses School curriculum Science environment Climate change aliens witchcraft computer, the internet, gaming prophecy, end times etc. etc. etc.
But the problem I am finding is: that in trying to talk with a secular, nonbeliever is: ( be it either in person, face to face, or online)
no matter how many real, true, honest, facts, a Christian may bring to the "discussion', It is almost always, a hopeless exercise.
Because, the nonbeliever does not have a firm foundation for the truth. ( God, Jesus, the Holy Spirit, the Bible sin, forgiveness, salvation etc.).
I caught and stopped myself , from getting involved in such a debate the other day.
A friend had posted a news piece about the pope honoring gay civil unions....
( I am not Catholic, nor ever have been)
That post however, sparked a hot debate with unbelievers posting things like:
Great! Finally! and of course, they trotted out....
What difference does it make... if the two people are in love???????
I was soooooo tempted to jump into the fray...
But I realized without the participants having any idea of the true human condition, it would be mostly be a waste of time .
Because unbelievers are either unaware or do not care about is: what is 'wrong', with the world and people Issues like:
Death came to all men ( and woman) through Adam, but life and forgiveness through in Christ
12 Therefore, just as sin came into the world through one man, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men because all sinned— Romans 5:12
So taking that one example of gay marriages:
Unbelievers stand on what they consider 'holy ground' because of it being 'love'..
Therefore it is an inalienable 'right'....
Anything else, or less is: persecution, hateful, oppression, intolerant, bigoted etc. and consequently, gay marriage candidates, are being maltreatment...
and so, on those grounds, they are:
'victims' of and by: Nazism and Nazis
Several things are very wrong with their stance:
One is putting man's 'wisdom' above and over God's eternal wisdom.
The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom; all those who practice it have a good understanding. His praise endures forever! Psalm 111:10
Genesis 2:24 is the first mention in the Bible of marriage:
24 Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and they shall become one flesh. Genesis 2:24
Wife, in this case, is not a man, calling another ,man his 'wife'.... as in playing house:
"I will be the husband and you get to play, the 'wife'.
Wife, is what God gave to Adam, ( a man/male)....
Adam's 'wife' was Eve a female/woman.
Instead, they have rejected the Truth and replaced it with a lie.
24 Therefore God gave them up in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, to the dishonoring of their bodies among themselves, 25 because they exchanged the truth about God for a lie
I only got about 2 hours of sleep last night so Done for today.
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Post by fearnot on Oct 25, 2020 9:44:16 GMT -5
In the World Today, the belief is: People are 'basically' good.........
Unless..... they are:
men Caucasian (white) old Republicans Americans Christian straight Believe in God of the Bible etc. etc. etc.
Believing that people are basically good means trusting in the feelings and thoughts, of secular people....
and forgetting, denying, mocking, not trusting in God, etc.
God can give the believer peace in times of trouble.
( but kicking God to the curb, as so many have done today.....
no wonder people have sooooo much anxiety and stress today)
You keep him in perfect peace whose mind is stayed on you, because he trusts in you. Isaiah 26:3
Secular people today have decided God and His Word is:
inadequate erroneous dreadful atrocious unacceptable abominable etc.
without any 'real' study of the Bible ( and yet at the same time, they give a pass to the 'religious' books of other religions, sects, cults, occult practices etc. having even less knowledge of what is contained in those books)
This struggle began in the Garden of Eden God had drawn ONE, just one line in the sand..... Satan called it a lie but actually Satan lied
And sinners today repeat Satan's statement of God Word being: incredulous! hateful false a lie etc.
And so
“Did God actually say?!!!!..... >:D Genesis 3:1
The idea is: whatever God says: is not only a lie but is mean, not compassionate ( to our sins that we love) God doesn't understand our times etc. and therefore they are those:
25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie.... Romans 1:25 (a)
people are like a 2 year old, who wants to play in traffic we do not understand the word NO or the why would God even say NO to us We do not like it!
And thus this truth about our hearts and minds is ignored:
9 The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it? Jeremiah 17:9 Done for today
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Post by Cindy on Oct 26, 2020 10:32:24 GMT -5
I'm so exhausted that I can't reply right now. I'll try again tomorrow. Sorry
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