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Post by Daniel on May 19, 2016 10:45:32 GMT -5
Pope Francis Defends Jihad, Says Christianity Has Similar Roots in Idea of Conquest
By Abra Forman May 18, 2016
Islam and Christianity share the “same idea of conquest”, and for that reason, Islam should not be viewed as a threat, said Pope Francis in a newspaper interview this week.
“It is true that the idea of conquest is inherent in the soul of Islam,” he conceded to the French Catholic newspaper La Croix. “However, it is also possible to interpret the objective in Matthew’s Gospel, where Jesus sends his disciples to all nations, in terms of the same idea of conquest.”
Ostensibly, the Pope was drawing a parallel between the Islamic “conquest” known as jihad, a holy war or struggle waged against infidels, and Christian missionizing.
Francis has repeatedly argued in favor of coexistence, peace, and tolerance in all areas of life but especially towards Muslims. He set his own powerful example last month when he brought a dozen refugees from the Greek island of Lesbos back to Rome with him after a diplomatic visit.
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www.breakingisraelnews.com/67928/pope-francis-defends-jihad-says-christianity-has-similar-roots-in-idea-of-conquest-05-16/?utm_source=Breaking+Israel+News&utm_campaign=c682e35bd7-BIN_evening_5_16&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_b6d3627f72-c682e35bd7-86653405#bXjcrq0WkLY2JSa4.97
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Post by fearnot on May 19, 2016 14:09:44 GMT -5
When a Christian tries to convert someone he or she does it with love, the Word of God, pointing them towards Jesus as Savior for their sins etc.
The Jihadist might occasionally give a person a choice, convert or die ( and even then, they may kill the person).
Some just choose to kill as many infidels as possible since it the only way ( they think) to be sure they will get to go to heaven and get 7 virgins.
I don't believe this pope can be truly a Christian (but only God and he knows, but by his words, it sounds like he is far from the Lord).
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Post by Daniel on May 23, 2016 8:40:26 GMT -5
Pope Francis: Islam's Friend, Christianity's Foe?
By Raymond Ibrahim
May 22, 2016
The man known as the pope and the vicar of Christ – but who in light of what follows is probably best referred to by his real name, Jorge Mario Bergoglio – recently gave an interview demonstrating why "so many people think he is the anti-Christ."
The more salient features follow:
Christ as Warmonger
In classic relativistic fashion, Jorge claims:
It is true that the idea of conquest is inherent in the soul of Islam. However, it is also possible to interpret the objective in Matthew's Gospel, where Jesus sends his disciples to all nations, in terms of the same idea of conquest.
Only someone who is ignorant of or hostile to Christianity can make such a claim. To state the obvious: yes, both Christianity and Islam seek to win converts. However, Jesus's call to his disciples to "go forth and make disciples of all nations" in Matthew's Gospel was understood and practiced peacefully. Disciples preached; people converted. No violence, no coercion. In fact, it was Christians – chief among them disciples and evangelists – who were persecuted and killed simply for preaching Christ, first by the pagan Roman empire and later (and still) by Islam.
Conversely, Muhammad said, "I have been sent with the sword between my hands to ensure that no one but Allah is worshipped – Allah who put my livelihood under the shadow of my spear and who inflicts humiliation and scorn on those who disobey my commandments (The Al Qaeda Reader, p.12)." The Koran is replete with commands to do violence on those who refuse to submit to Islam – and yes, in ways that far transcend comparison with Old Testament violence.
Unlike the spread of Christianity, Islam spread through the sword. This is a simple, historic fact, acknowledged by more sober European leaders: the overwhelming majority of territory that today constitutes the "Muslim world" was seized from non-Muslims by great violence and bloodshed. Two thirds of Christendom – the Mideast and North Africa – was to be swallowed up by Islam a century after Islam's founding. Even Rome was sacked and the Vatican defiled in the name of Islam in the year 846.
The making of martyrs is the only similarity that Christianity and Islam share when it comes to how they spread: while Christians were martyred for their faith, Muslims martyred whoever refused their faith.
Dislike for "Christian Roots" of Europe (or Dislike for Truth)
According to Jorge, "when I hear talk of the Christian roots of Europe, I sometimes dread the tone, which can seem triumphalist or even vengeful. It then takes on colonialist overtones."
One expects such ahistorical multicultural drivel from a clueless atheist – not the pope. A quick education for Jorge: the "Christian roots of Europe" are a fact. For centuries, after the aforementioned Islamic conquests of the Middle East, the original heartland of Christianity, Europe became the heart and standard-bearer of the Christian faith. That's why it was called "Christendom." How can the supposed vicar, or representative, of Christ "dread" this fact, denouncing it as "triumphalist or even vengeful"?
Christianity as a Welcome Doormat
Apparently for Jorge, Europeans may express their Christian roots and faith – but only by being "welcome" doormats:
Yes, Europe has Christian roots and it is Christianity's responsibility to water those roots. But this must be done in a spirit of service as in the washing of the feet. Christianity's duty to Europe is one of service. ... Christianity's contribution to a culture is that of Christ in the washing of the feet.
So according to the head of the Catholic Church, the entire purpose and message of Christianity is the "washing of feet" – or, in this context, taking in millions of Muslim migrants, many of whom are openly hostile to Christianity.
Yes, Christ served and washed his disciples' feet and preached mercy and compassion – but that was hardly the sole or even primary purpose of his mission. He offered an entire worldview founded on profound theological assertions. When people erred by profaning the temple, he didn't "turn the other cheek" (let alone wash their feet). He whipped them. He didn't preach naivety – open your doors to those who have a long history of subjugating and still seek to subjugate you – but rather taught his followers to be "wise as serpents." He spoke of everlasting hell and torments – indeed, more so than anyone else in the entire Bible. That's why all Christian denominations have traditionally held that being Christian far transcends "the washing of feet."
But for Jorge, the only aspects of Christianity worth expressing are those that benefit Muslim migrants, some of whom hate and persecute Christians in Europe.
The Muslim World's Problems: Our Fault and Responsibility
When asked if Europe has the capacity to continue accepting so many migrants, Jorge said: "[T]he deeper question is why there are so many migrants now." Like a true apologist for Islam, he went on to cite anything and everything – arms manufacturers; hunger; and, parroting the Obama administration, unemployment – as causes for upheavals in the Middle East, while ignoring the elephant in the room: Islamic culture, which engenders dysfunctional, intolerant, violent, authoritarian, and tribal societies. Simply look to the birthplace of Islam, where Islamic law is strictly upheld: Saudi Arabia is wealthier than most Western nations and has none of the problems cited by Jorge, yet it too is barbaric, corrupt, backwards, and hostile to all who do not profess Islam. Why?
continue reading
www.americanthinker.com/articles/2016/05/pope_francis_islams_friend_christianitys_foe.html
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Post by fearnot on May 23, 2016 23:10:44 GMT -5
Thanks for the 2nd article he said it better and made some very good factual points!
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Post by Daniel on May 24, 2016 7:27:35 GMT -5
Thanks for the 2nd article he said it better and made some very good factual points! |
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Post by fearnot on May 24, 2016 11:50:50 GMT -5
Thanks for the 2nd article he said it better and made some very good factual points!
I suppose I can understand a 'baby' Christian, who had been brought with this present education system that say Christians caused more wars blah blah blah and never stop to hear or think who provides the most love, comfort, housing, food, medicine etc. to people all over the world.
But more important are truly loving and concerned for people's souls and eternal destiny.
I know some people say they are Christians but are not ( and many even know they are not) for some agenda or another....many are more into social 'do good' ( which is not bad in itself, but without a true love for the Lord and His Word, they may as well be socialists or whatever.
Some still find it a good way to make business connections and the like. I am not sure if they are really saved ( I guess only they and God knows).
I knew one couple who claimed to be Christians but they complained about a friend who was a 'fanatic' always reading her Bible.
They really thought that was going waaaaay to far.
But for sure, this pope truly makes me wonder ( I am not nor ever was Catholic,) but I never expect a pope to say the things this one is saying. |
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Post by Daniel on May 24, 2016 14:50:18 GMT -5
I don't understand it either, but that's the way it is. 
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