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Post by Cindy on Dec 11, 2017 11:03:47 GMT -5
My eyes were really opened to just how evil people are becoming when I did a search on amazon for Adult coloring books. My grandchildren wanted some coloring books, but wanted "adult" ones so I thought I'd look and see what I could find for them. You wouldn't believe the disgusting things I saw! I thought at first that what I'd seen on one page would be all there was, for surely no one would buy that kind of trash, but I was very wrong. They just got worse. It made me feel physically ill and very very sad for the people who made the books and those who would buy them. I cried out to the Lord as I felt I needed to be cleansed from what I'd seen - both physically and spiritually. It was that disgusting. It's pretty sad that you can't look for an adult coloring book without being bombarded with things like that. I strongly urge anyone else that's thinking of searching for them not to do so. It's not worth it. I still can't get some of the images out of my mind.
It's been like that when searching for graphics for a long time now. You can't search for graphics without seeing things that are blasphemous and just gross.
It's this way too when signing up to be notified of Christian ebooks that are either free or discounted. Now Satan has his children listing their books as "christian" even though they're far from it. Another trick some authors use is they write a secular book, and then take the same book and "clean it up" and then publish it as "christian". it's obviously not. Plus the people who send out the emails don't know what a Christian book really is so they don't know that Catholic isn't Christian and neither is the Dali Lama or new age junk, or mormons, JW's, etc.; and of course they include all the Name it and claim it stuff, and other cult authors as well. So a great number of the books listed as Christian aren't. Yet sadly many who don't study their bibles don't know that and so they continue to be deceived. It reminds me of 2 Thessalonians 2:10–11 “They perish because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie”
It seems like there's nothing we can do any longer without being bombarded with the ugliness of sin and evil. It makes me long for Jesus to come and get us even more.
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Post by fearnot on Dec 11, 2017 14:37:31 GMT -5
That is soooo true!!
I quit reading one 'Christian' novel book ( which had a lot of false gospel etc. in it)
and started another 'Christian" novel....which was ok....but then they started talking about Charismatic warfare, extra biblical messages, etc.
Soooooo there goes another one in the not reading anymore of it pile.
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Post by oliverwithatwist on Dec 12, 2017 9:16:38 GMT -5
Other than the Holy Bible, I still occasionally read some of my favorite Hardy Boys books, (I'm 65 years old), also read Louis L'Amour and Zane Grey westerns.
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Post by Cindy on Dec 12, 2017 10:36:39 GMT -5
My father in law loved those LOL. I've found many wonderful Christian fiction books, but if you're not very careful and do the research before starting them, (such as checking out the author carefully and who they learned from and who they like, being knowledgeable of new age authors pretending to be christian etc.)you're bound to get some nasty surprises. Even doing that, I've had to put down two books in the last year that had passed all my tests and yet still surprised me by having false teaching in them.
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Post by fearnot on Dec 12, 2017 13:27:16 GMT -5
I haven't had tooooo much trouble until lately. The problem is I only just read your super helpful warning, and I have already ( over the year or so) downloaded a whole bunch without doing any research at all...well maybe some reviews arrggghhhh
Occasionally, I read the worst reviews if it seems really hard to tell exactly what the book is about. If I read a lot of...I didn't know this was a Christian book, I hated all the Bible quotes, and 'preaching' and lectures, etc etc. I begin to think that might be a fine book to read LOL
But even so you way is better.
With the ones I have already downloaded and not read yet....I could at least research BEFORE I start reading .
I also read your reviews which help me a lot because we often have the same books but don't read them in the same order.
I occasionally download a Christian romance ( and many are quite good actually) but a few have been a wee tad bit been too descriptive of the 'romance' part....not like I imagine a secular romance novel might be....but still, it makes what is a good novel with some good Biblical applications...less than it could have been. Those are a bit harder to know about....because the 'theology' make actually be okay...good even, except for that one area.
I usually just skim over that part and often there is only one or two scenes. I am thinking sometimes new young Christian authors, may not even be totally aware or perhaps the culture has so dulled even younger Christians to think that speaking of how well someone's behind looks great in their jeans ( just one minor little thing I guess).... is a non issue LOL So speaking of how the kissing intensified etc. is sort of the same to them.
I wonder what it would have been like to have waited for your first kiss, until the altar when getting married?
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Post by anna on Dec 12, 2017 14:09:20 GMT -5
Cindy, I just wanted to let you know that the scripture you wrote 2 Thessalonians 2:10-11 was an instant answer to a prayer that I prayed. I watched a video about what was taboo to talk about the Civil War, which was about the prostitutes and the STD's the men got, about 1/3 of the men or 40% of the men were not able to fight the war, and not just enlisted men also officers and generals. The video said the problem was because of boredom and temptation, but I prayed to understand because I thought there must be more to the problem than that, then after the prayer I read here that scripture you typed and that was the answer to my question that I asked the Lord about.
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Post by Cindy on Dec 13, 2017 10:19:48 GMT -5
I haven't had tooooo much trouble until lately. The problem is I only just read your super helpful warning, and I have already ( over the year or so) downloaded a whole bunch without doing any research at all...well maybe some reviews arrggghhhh
Occasionally, I read the worst reviews if it seems really hard to tell exactly what the book is about. If I read a lot of...I didn't know this was a Christian book, I hated all the Bible quotes, and 'preaching' and lectures, etc etc. I begin to think that might be a fine book to read LOL
But even so you way is better.
With the ones I have already downloaded and not read yet....I could at least research BEFORE I start reading .
I also read your reviews which help me a lot because we often have the same books but don't read them in the same order.
I occasionally download a Christian romance ( and many are quite good actually) but a few have been a wee tad bit been too descriptive of the 'romance' part....not like I imagine a secular romance novel might be....but still, it makes what is a good novel with some good Biblical applications...less than it could have been. Those are a bit harder to know about....because the 'theology' make actually be okay...good even, except for that one area.
I usually just skim over that part and often there is only one or two scenes. I am thinking sometimes new young Christian authors, may not even be totally aware or perhaps the culture has so dulled even younger Christians to think that speaking of how well someone's behind looks great in their jeans ( just one minor little thing I guess).... is a non issue LOL So speaking of how the kissing intensified etc. is sort of the same to them.
I wonder what it would have been like to have waited for your first kiss, until the altar when getting married? I understand what you're saying. On the other hand though, some novels I've read that have shown a scene or two of a sexual nature, it wasn't graphic at all, but simply stated what happened. Then, when continuing to read the book(s) they showed how that person was changed by the Lord when they were saved and how they repented for those things. In cases like that, it's just like anyone's testimony of when they were saved. If we don't first share what we were like before the Lord saved us, or the person we're talking to doesn't know the kind of evil we did before being saved, then how can they possibly appreciate the major way the Lord changed us on the inside at our salvation? However, I won't read books that go into detail about the sexual scenes. (the way secular books do) To me that's simply disgusting and putting tempting ideas into people's minds. I try to stick to what the Bible does. The Bible itself talks about sex and also speaks of sexual sin, it simply doesn't get graphic about it. Instead it speaks of it to show what's evil and sin, and how God wants us to live. Cindy, I just wanted to let you know that the scripture you wrote 2 Thessalonians 2:10-11 was an instant answer to a prayer that I prayed. I watched a video about what was taboo to talk about the Civil War, which was about the prostitutes and the STD's the men got, about 1/3 of the men or 40% of the men were not able to fight the war, and not just enlisted men also officers and generals. The video said the problem was because of boredom and temptation, but I prayed to understand because I thought there must be more to the problem than that, then after the prayer I read here that scripture you typed and that was the answer to my question that I asked the Lord about. I love how the Lord answers our questions that way! I'm humbled that He chose to use me to post His Word to do so.
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Post by fearnot on Dec 13, 2017 12:36:53 GMT -5
Right, I agree, if the novel is talking about an incident ( or in some cases a life style) of one of the main characters, before they were saved,
I don't have trouble with that....
sometimes tho, it's the 'Christian'....occasionally because they are new baby Christians,
however, in some novels, they just are fine with passion up to a point..... which is tricky, at the very least.
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Post by Cindy on Dec 14, 2017 12:36:54 GMT -5
It sure is tricky. I wouldn't want to have to try and figure out how to deal with that in a fiction novel myself!
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